Re: [Hardhats-members] Configuration - Adjust system files to new domain

2006-07-29 Thread Paul Pearce
Got it. Thank you.  

Paul

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domain

You are being presented with a default choice, usually the last option 
chosen, if that's the choice you want, just hit enter, but you can enter 
any valid response. Just type in the file you need, KERNEL SYSTEM 
PARAMETERS, after the slashes.

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Good luck,

Mike Schrom

Paul Pearce wrote:
 During the configuration of FOIA VistA I get stuck at the Adjust system
 files to new domain.  I am using the FOIA VISTA CONFIGURATION document.  
 
 Instead of this:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS//
 I get:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: DOMAIN//
 
 I have tried rerunning the commands from the top but I don't know how to
get
 past this point.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.
 
 Paul
 
 
 Snip of instructions**
 
 Adjust system files to new domain 
From the GTM prompt repoint the KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS and RPC BROKER
 PARAMETERS files to the new domain, go back to the GTM prompt and enter
'S
 $P(^XTV(8989.3,1,0),^)=3' and 'S $P(^XWB(8994.1,1,0),^)=3' where 3 is
 the internal number of the new domain we just created in the previous
step. 
 The domain instance of 22 is used below. I have NO idea what this command
 mean. I only know that it resets the kernel parameters and RPC broker
 parameters to my domain defined above. 
 GTMS $P(^XTV(8989.3,1,0),^)=22
 
 GTMS $P(^XWB(8994.1,1,0),^)=22
 GTM
 
 Then from the GTM prompt again start FileMan with D Q^DI. At Select
 OPTION: enter 6 (UTILITY FUNCTIONS) then select RE-INDEX FILE. At MODIFY
 WHAT FILE, enter KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS. Then do the same for the RPC
 BROKER PARAMETERS file. See example below for the rest of the dialogue. 
 GTMD Q^DI
 
 VA FileMan 22.0
 
 
 Select OPTION: UTILITY FUNCTIONS
 
 Select UTILITY OPTION: RE-INDEX FILE
 
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS//
 
 Instead of the above I get:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: DOMAIN//
 
 THERE ARE 13 INDICES WITHIN THIS FILE
 DO YOU WISH TO RE-CROSS-REFERENCE ONE PARTICULAR INDEX? No// NO (No)
 OK, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO KILL OFF THE EXISTING 13 INDICES? No// YES
 (Yes)
 DO YOU THEN WANT TO 'RE-CROSS-REFERENCE'? Yes// (Yes)
 ...SORRY, LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT A MOMENT...
 FILE WILL NOW BE 'RE-CROSS-REFERENCED'
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Configuration - Adjust system files to new domain

2006-07-29 Thread Mike Schrom
You are being presented with a default choice, usually the last option 
chosen, if that's the choice you want, just hit enter, but you can enter 
any valid response. Just type in the file you need, KERNEL SYSTEM 
PARAMETERS, after the slashes.

BTW, this list is moving. Go to Google and subscribe to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck,

Mike Schrom

Paul Pearce wrote:
 During the configuration of FOIA VistA I get stuck at the Adjust system
 files to new domain.  I am using the FOIA VISTA CONFIGURATION document.  
 
 Instead of this:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS//
 I get:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: DOMAIN//
 
 I have tried rerunning the commands from the top but I don't know how to get
 past this point.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.
 
 Paul
 
 
 Snip of instructions**
 
 Adjust system files to new domain 
From the GTM prompt repoint the KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS and RPC BROKER
 PARAMETERS files to the new domain, go back to the GTM prompt and enter 'S
 $P(^XTV(8989.3,1,0),^)=3' and 'S $P(^XWB(8994.1,1,0),^)=3' where 3 is
 the internal number of the new domain we just created in the previous step. 
 The domain instance of 22 is used below. I have NO idea what this command
 mean. I only know that it resets the kernel parameters and RPC broker
 parameters to my domain defined above. 
 GTMS $P(^XTV(8989.3,1,0),^)=22
 
 GTMS $P(^XWB(8994.1,1,0),^)=22
 GTM
 
 Then from the GTM prompt again start FileMan with D Q^DI. At Select
 OPTION: enter 6 (UTILITY FUNCTIONS) then select RE-INDEX FILE. At MODIFY
 WHAT FILE, enter KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS. Then do the same for the RPC
 BROKER PARAMETERS file. See example below for the rest of the dialogue. 
 GTMD Q^DI
 
 VA FileMan 22.0
 
 
 Select OPTION: UTILITY FUNCTIONS
 
 Select UTILITY OPTION: RE-INDEX FILE
 
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: KERNEL SYSTEM PARAMETERS//
 
 Instead of the above I get:
 MODIFY WHAT FILE: DOMAIN//
 
 THERE ARE 13 INDICES WITHIN THIS FILE
 DO YOU WISH TO RE-CROSS-REFERENCE ONE PARTICULAR INDEX? No// NO (No)
 OK, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO KILL OFF THE EXISTING 13 INDICES? No// YES
 (Yes)
 DO YOU THEN WANT TO 'RE-CROSS-REFERENCE'? Yes// (Yes)
 ...SORRY, LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT A MOMENT...
 FILE WILL NOW BE 'RE-CROSS-REFERENCED'
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI 4.1

2006-07-29 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
I just checked on their download area for CPRS

http://openvista.pacifichui.org/Files/CPRSchart.exe

which is still at version 1.0.25.42, but I haven't tested it yet.
Maybe some from the HUI will chime in? It would appear that the
patches didn't include anything related to CPRS. 

 Does HUI 4.1 support/include CPRS 26?

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 3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B
 Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659
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Re: [Hardhats-members] === VistA Video - DOWNLOAD SITE ===

2006-07-29 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It is indeed a GREAT video.  I hear that Drs. Perlin and Kolodner worked hard 
to make sure it was just to their liking, and they and the folks who made it 
did a super job.  It knocked my socks off, and that takes a lot as they are 
on there tight!

On Wednesday 26 July 2006 23:36, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
Thanks a million Alberto. By hosting the Video you have added
the icing to the great work selfless people like Nancy are doing
to promote VistA. Downloaded the Video here in Delhi yesterday
and it is really wonderful - full size unlike the streaming web
version.

Joseph
Edgeware Technologies
New Delhi
www.etipl.com

--- Alberto Odor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I made and iso image of the VistA video provided to me by
 Nancy and have
 placed it in my server. You can download it if you wish. The
 video is great.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] TASKMAN - RUN NODE=ROU:host is the wrong type in taskman site

2006-07-29 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Yes, as a matter of fact, I have a couple.

Look to see if the Mode is General Processor in Taskman.  

Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:Morphix
ANOTHER ONE:
STANDARD CAPTIONED OUTPUT? Yes//   (Yes)
Include COMPUTED fields:  (N/Y/R/B): NO// BOTH Computed Fields and Reco
rd Number (IEN)

NUMBER: 3   BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:Morphix
  SUBMANAGER RETENTION TIME: 1  TASKMAN JOB LIMIT: 495
  MODE OF TASKMAN: GENERAL PROCESSOROUT OF SERVICE: NO


If that isn't it, try restarting Taskman using the menus system.  Your menu 
may be EVE, not EVE3, but that is OK, just pick EVE.

D ^ZU


Select OPTION NAME: eve
 1   EVE3   Systems Manager Menu
 2   EVENT CAPTURE DATA ENTRY  ECENTER Event Capture Data Entry
 3   EVENT CAPTURE MANAGEMENT MENU  ECMGR Event Capture Management 
Menu
 4   EVENT CAPTURE MENU  ECMENU Event Capture Menu
 5   EVENT CAPTURE ONLINE DOCUMENTA  ECDSONL Event Capture Online 
Docume
ntation
Press RETURN to see more, '^' to exit this list, OR
CHOOSE 1-5: 1  EVE3 Systems Manager Menu

WARNING -- TASK MANAGER DOESN'T SEEM TO BE RUNNING



 Select Systems Manager Menu Option: taskman Management

WARNING -- TASK MANAGER DOESN'T SEEM TO BE RUNNING



 Select Taskman Management Option: taskman Management Utilities

 Select Taskman Management Utilities Option: restart


If that doesn't do it, then it is something in the infrastructure setup.  Let 
me ssh in and poke around if that is the case.  I will capture a script so 
you will be able to see what I did.  I will probably be able to do it 
tonight, or maybe this afternoon if I don't have patients, which is not 
likely, but possible as our contract is changing over to a new company and 
everything is all in turmoil.

On Thursday 27 July 2006 02:15, Paul Pearce wrote:
After nearly completing the configuration steps I received the following
output when checking Taskman.

Any ideas?

Paul


MY OUTPUT*
GTMD ^ZTMON


Checking Taskman.   Current $H=60473,6088  (Jul 27, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:41:28)
  RUN NODE=ROU:host is the wrong type in taskman site
parame
ters.  (ROU:host is the wrong type in taskman site parameters.)
Taskman is late by 5224873273 seconds. not running..
Checking the Status List:
  Node  weight  status  time   $J
 The Status List is empty.

Checking the Schedule List:
 Taskman has 15 tasks scheduled.
 14 of them are overdue.  First task is 3664022 seconds late.

Checking the IO Lists:
 There are no tasks waiting for devices.

Checking the Job List:
 There are no tasks waiting for partitions.

Checking the Task List:
 There are no tasks currently running.
 On node ROU:host there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Run

Enter monitor action: UPDATE//



***FOIA VISTA CONFIGURATION INSTRUCTIONS***

Start TaskMan
If TaskMan's environment is OK, start TaskMan.
Go back to the GTM prompt and type D ^ZTMB to start TASKMAN.

You will probably not see any output from this command.

To monitor TaskMan, enter D ^ZTMON from the GTM prompt.
Enter ^ at the UPDATE// prompt to exit the monitor or enter a ? to see
what the other options are.
GTM D ^ZTMON

Checking Taskman. Current $H=59991,54440 (Apr 01, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:07:20)
 RUN NODE=59991,54432  (Apr 01, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:07:12)

Taskman is current..
Checking the Status List:
Node weight status time $J
ROU:bonez RUN [EMAIL PROTECTED]:07:12 5933 Main Loop

Checking the Schedule List:
Taskman has no tasks scheduled.

Checking the IO Lists:
There are no tasks waiting for devices.

Checking the Job List:
There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks. Out Of Service
For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks. Out Of Service

Checking the Task List:
There are 2 tasks currently running.
On node ROU:bonez there is 1 free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Run

Enter monitor action: UPDATE//^





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[Hardhats-members] Hardhats mailing list again indisposed

2006-07-29 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
The hardhats mailing list at Source Forge appears to be again indisposed 
(it's usual mode of falling sick is to allow replies to messages to go 
through, but block - or significantly delay, by days in some cases - new 
messages).  I have e-mailed the hardhats list administrators, including 
Greg Kreis.  [I am sending this post by replying to George Timson's 
reply to Jim Self's post from some time ago.]

Meanwhile, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(http://groups.google.com/group/vista for web based access) for any 
VistA related technical discussions.  If you encounter any issues, 
please e-mail me.

Regards
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[Hardhats-members] Senate directs DOD to use VA EHR architecture

2006-07-29 Thread Roger A Maduro
FYI. Big news.

Roger

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Senate directs DOD to use VA EHR architecture
Bob Brewin, Govt. Health IT
July 26, 2006
http://govhealthit.com/article95423-07-26-06-Web

The Senate directed the Defense Department to adopt the Department of Veterans 
Affairs’ electronic health record (EHR) architecture in its version of the VA 
2007 Appropriations bill approved by the Senate Appropriations Committee’s 
Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Subcommittee on July 21.

In its version of the 2007 VA appropriations bill, passed last month, the 
House Appropriations Committee’s Military Quality of Life and Veterans 
Affairs Subcommittee used similar language, directing DOD and the VA to adopt 
identical software, data standards and data repositories for their EHR 
systems.

Both bills now go to a conference between the two branches of Congress, and if 
the intent of the language in both makes it through that process, DOD and the 
VA would end up using the same EHR to serve a population of 9.2 million 
active-duty and retired personnel in the Military Health System (MHS) and 
roughly 5 million veterans who use VA health care facilities

-- 
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LxIS
117 Davis Ave. SW
Leesburg, VA 20175
(571) 217-6921

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LxIS
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[Hardhats-members] To Rick Cotton

2006-07-29 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Sorry to take up the bandwidth with this, but Rick, I am trying to reply to 
the email you sent me, but it is bouncing.  Can you please send me a 
different address?
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GOOGLE TO HOST REPOSITORY FOR OPEN-SOURCE PROJECTS

2006-07-29 Thread Greg Woodhouse


--- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
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 in a move that has been met with mixed reaction from the developer
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 http://newsletter.infoworld.com/t?r=314ctl=133D0F6:1F5F2D1
 

I kind of like the idea of a repository at Google. 

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Ken Kiser considered for Health Chief for the UK

2006-07-29 Thread Molly Cheah


LSE Health and Social Care
New NHS Chief Executive appointed
David Nicholson has been appointed by the Prime Minister as the new NHS Chief 
Executive. 
The handover between David Nicholson and Acting NHS Chief Executive, Sir Ian 
Carruthers is provisionally planned for September. David will continue in his 
current position as Chief Executive of NHS London until the handover.
Sir Ian Carruthers has been Acting NHS Chief Executive since the retirement of 
Sir Nigel Crisp in March. Sir Ian will now take up the role of Chief Executive 
of NHS South West.
David Nicholson, CBE has devoted over 25 years to a career in the NHS, holding 
senior leadership positions at local, regional and national level. He was 
appointed Chief Executive of the new Strategic Health Authority for London 
earlier this year having previously been the Chief Executive of Birmingham and 
The Black Country SHA (from 2003) and of West Midlands South and Shropshire  
Staffordshire Strategic Health Authorities (from 2005). In April 2002 David 
became Director of Health and Social Care for the Midlands and East of 
England. Before taking this role he held a number of positions in NHS 
organisations including Regional Director for Trent and nine years as Chief 
Executive of Doncaster Royal Infirmary NHS Trust. David has two sons, one a 
recent graduate and the other studying at university. He was awarded the CBE 
in January 2004 for his services to the NHS. 

Molly

Nancy Anthracite wrote:

Another interesting link sent to me by one of my students:

http://govhealthit.com/article95369-07-21-06-Webnewsletter=yes
  



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help related to CPRS GUI's

2006-07-29 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I don't think you can specify which tabs to display or not display in
CPRS (with the exception of the surgery tab.)

Why do you not want some people to be able to view, for example, the
orders tab?  You CAN limit who can order tests, if that is what you
want.

Kevin


On 7/28/06, Adnan Nasrullah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Dear All,

 I have one question related to CPRS GUI's.



 1)I want to assign some OR only ONE OR TWO tabs of CPRS
 GUI's to a specific user.



 My requirement is that with different roles e.g. Clinician, Nurse, clerks,
 etc. I have to give different interfaces of CPRS GUI's or Different Tabs
 (Meds, Cover Sheet, Notes, labs, etc) to different User Roles AS similar to
 Surgery Tab And Order Entry Allowing which we can hide through
 configuration.



 Can it is possible through configuration, I mean through File MAN.



 Can anyone of you help me in this regards, I hope that you understand my
 point of view.





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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI 4.1

2006-07-29 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
I bundled OR_30_215 with Hui Vista 4.1 SemiVivA.  FWIW, the connection 
is established when CPRSChart.exe runs under wine.

-- Bhaskar

Ismet Kursunoglu wrote, on 07/25/2006 07:01 PM:
 I just checked on their download area for CPRS
 
 http://openvista.pacifichui.org/Files/CPRSchart.exe
 
 which is still at version 1.0.25.42, but I haven't tested it yet.
 Maybe some from the HUI will chime in? It would appear that the
 patches didn't include anything related to CPRS.
 
   Does HUI 4.1 support/include CPRS 26?
 
 -- 
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  Alaska Clinic, LLC
  3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B
  Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Senate directs DOD to use VA EHR architecture

2006-07-29 Thread Nancy Anthracite

There is big and there is BIG!


On Thursday 27 July 2006 10:35, Roger A Maduro wrote:
FYI. Big news.

Roger

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Senate directs DOD to use VA EHR architecture
Bob Brewin, Govt. Health IT
July 26, 2006
http://govhealthit.com/article95423-07-26-06-Web

The Senate directed the Defense Department to adopt the Department of
 Veterans Affairs’ electronic health record (EHR) architecture in its version
 of the VA 2007 Appropriations bill approved by the Senate Appropriations
 Committee’s Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Subcommittee on July
 21.

In its version of the 2007 VA appropriations bill, passed last month, the
House Appropriations Committee’s Military Quality of Life and Veterans
Affairs Subcommittee used similar language, directing DOD and the VA to adopt
identical software, data standards and data repositories for their EHR
systems.

Both bills now go to a conference between the two branches of Congress, and
 if the intent of the language in both makes it through that process, DOD and
 the VA would end up using the same EHR to serve a population of 9.2 million
 active-duty and retired personnel in the Military Health System (MHS) and
 roughly 5 million veterans who use VA health care facilities

--
Roger A. Maduro
LxIS
117 Davis Ave. SW
Leesburg, VA 20175
(571) 217-6921

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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI 4.1

2006-07-29 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I believe it will connect, but you will likely not be able to select a 
patient.

On Saturday 29 July 2006 06:52, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
I bundled OR_30_215 with Hui Vista 4.1 SemiVivA.  FWIW, the connection
is established when CPRSChart.exe runs under wine.

-- Bhaskar

Ismet Kursunoglu wrote, on 07/25/2006 07:01 PM:
 I just checked on their download area for CPRS

 http://openvista.pacifichui.org/Files/CPRSchart.exe

 which is still at version 1.0.25.42, but I haven't tested it yet.
 Maybe some from the HUI will chime in? It would appear that the
 patches didn't include anything related to CPRS.

   Does HUI 4.1 support/include CPRS 26?

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Re: [Hardhats-members] HUI 4.1

2006-07-29 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Should I bundle with OR_30_235 instead and re-release?  Thanx muchly.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

Nancy Anthracite wrote, on 07/29/2006 09:19 AM:
 I believe it will connect, but you will likely not be able to select a
 patient.
 
 On Saturday 29 July 2006 06:52, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
 I bundled OR_30_215 with Hui Vista 4.1 SemiVivA.  FWIW, the connection
 is established when CPRSChart.exe runs under wine.
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Senate directs DOD to use VA EHR architecture

2006-07-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jul 29, 2006, at 6:16 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:There is big and there is BIG!I'm still trying to figure out whether this is big, big or big. I'm hoping for big. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"You can't win if you don't finish the race."--Richard Petty -
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GOOGLE TO HOST REPOSITORY FOR OPEN-SOURCE PROJECTS

2006-07-29 Thread Dan
This is way off topic but I do not understand why people just blindly trust 
Google.   If MS tried to suck as much user data from people as Google does 
now people would be be in an uproar.

I don't know of any other company that is allowed to get away with having 
so many products in a permanent  stage of beta release.


At 06:52 PM 7/28/2006, Greg wrote:
 --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Google is offering to host open source software development projects
  in a move that has been met with mixed reaction from the developer
  community online.
  http://newsletter.infoworld.com/t?r=314ctl=133D0F6:1F5F2D1
 

I kind of like the idea of a repository at Google.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] GOOGLE TO HOST REPOSITORY FOR OPEN-SOURCE PROJECTS

2006-07-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jul 29, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Dan wrote:This is way off topic but I do not understand why people just blindly trust  Google.   If MS tried to suck as much user data from people as Google does  now people would be be in an uproar.  I don't know of any other company that is allowed to get away with having  so many products in a permanent  stage of beta release.  By default? If you don't trust AOL, Yahoo or Microsoft, you're pretty much stuck with Google.Personally, I'm just tired of being assaulted by advertising all over everything, like inner-city graffiti. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"You can't win if you don't finish the race."--Richard Petty -
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[Hardhats-members] So what is an EHR architecture, anyway?

2006-07-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
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Re: [Hardhats-members] So what is an EHR architecture, anyway?

2006-07-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jul 29, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:Would anyone care to hazard a definition?Oh, I forgot to add that negative definitions are worth a D. Don't tell me what it isn't, I want to know what it is. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Those who are enamored of practicewithout theory are like a pilot who goesinto a ship without rudder or compass."--Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519) -
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Re: [Hardhats-members] So what is an EHR architecture, anyway?

2006-07-29 Thread Chris Richardson



OK, I'll bite. 
EHR architecture, A record architecture which 
helps to maintainthemedical life history ofan 
individual. Such an architecture should be dynamic and flexible enough to 
adapttothe changeing scal and density of medical data and also 
provide easy interchange with other data repositories. Adaptation is the 
key. Standardization is the soul of that interchange, but is not held 
slavishly to only those standards. Itneeds to be extensible, 
expansive, secure (as in private), and contain consistency checksto insure 
that the record is only changed by authorized individuals.

 How is that, Greg?

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  Would 
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  Oh, I forgot to add that negative definitions are worth a D. Don't tell 
  me what it isn't, I want to know what it is.
  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Has anyone reused VPE programmatically?

2006-07-29 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Gary,

I can't get the menu option DDBR to work.  It asks for fields to
display, but only allows one to select multiple, and then for the
multiple, it will allow one to only select subfields that are also
multiples etc.  When I run out of options, it just aborts out.

Kevin


On 7/26/06, Gary Monger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Agree it would be nice if there were an API reference for VPE.

 You should also check out the Fileman browser DDBR.  Its pretty good for
 viewing word processing fields, and is adaptable to a number of uses.

 The HL7 message search utility makes use of some undocumented browser
 features like hyperlinks and constructing documents on the fly.  Some pretty
 nifty stuff considering when this thing was built.  Too bad it wasn't used
 more.

 The hypertext markup is a little awkward, mostly because its undocumented.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] === VistA Video - DOWNLOAD SITE ===

2006-07-29 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I liked it too.  But the part that is so cool is all the imaging
stuff.  The stuff that is not really open source  :-(

Kevin


On 7/27/06, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is indeed a GREAT video.  I hear that Drs. Perlin and Kolodner worked hard
 to make sure it was just to their liking, and they and the folks who made it
 did a super job.  It knocked my socks off, and that takes a lot as they are
 on there tight!

 On Wednesday 26 July 2006 23:36, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
 Thanks a million Alberto. By hosting the Video you have added
 the icing to the great work selfless people like Nancy are doing
 to promote VistA. Downloaded the Video here in Delhi yesterday
 and it is really wonderful - full size unlike the streaming web
 version.

 Joseph
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  I made and iso image of the VistA video provided to me by
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GOOGLE TO HOST REPOSITORY FOR OPEN-SOURCE PROJECTS

2006-07-29 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 7/29/06, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is way off topic but I do not understand why people just blindly trust
 Google.   If MS tried to suck as much user data from people as Google does
 now people would be be in an uproar.

It's because Google has not YET shown its cards, as to what it will do
with the data.  We've all been screwed by MS in the past.  Google
hasn't stepped forward yet.  :-)

Kevin

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[Hardhats-members] WorldVistA Website Maintenance

2006-07-29 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
The WorldVistA website will be experiencing intermittent outages this 
weekend as the Zope/Plone software is upgraded.

Regards,

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Re: [Hardhats-members] So what is an EHR architecture, anyway?

2006-07-29 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Jul 29, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Chris Richardson wrote:OK, I'll bite.  Thanks.EHR architecture,  A record architecture which helps to maintain the medical life history of an individual. That sounds good.  I might choose something less restrictive here, as the focus seems to be almost entirely longitudinal, a natural emphasis in an office environment, but I think there is more to an EHR architecture than that. Such an architecture should be dynamic and flexible Flexible in what way?enough to adapt to the changeing scal and density of medical data and also provide easy interchange with other data repositories.  Okay, this good. How would you define scale and density in this context?Adaptation is the key. This is a principle with which I completely agree, but it's not clear that it is specifically an architectural principle. I would probably prefer to call it a programmatic statement, or perhaps a design principle. On the other hand, I can see that it could be argued that this is precisely the kind of thing that belongs in an architecture.  Standardization is the soul of that interchange, but is not held slavishly to only those standards.Okay, this is your most radical statement yet, and I don't think it's quite clear what you mean. You can't have it both ways: either you meet the requirements of a standard or you don't. If what you mean is that standards shouldn't be the driver in determining the basic architecture of an EHR, then I agree. But if you mean that standards are useful, but we should feel free to deviate from them when they prove inconvenient, then I most assuredly do not agree.  It needs to be extensible, I agree. And sadly, this is one of the areas real systems most often fall short.expansive,Expansive? In what sense? secure (as in private),I don't know if this is your intent, but I wouldn't limit security in this sense. If anything, I would emphasize that security includes privacy. and contain consistency checks to insure that the record is only changed by authorized individuals.That's part of security, too.    How is that, Greg? Not bad. I think my concept of architecture is a little more concrete and a little less programmatic, but the whole point of the question was to solicit other people's ideas as to what architecture means. I appreciate your response. Gregory Woodhouse[EMAIL PROTECTED]"You can't win if you don't finish the race."--Richard Petty -
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Re: [Hardhats-members] So what is an EHR architecture, anyway?

2006-07-29 Thread Chris Richardson



OK, Reply is below in braces [];

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  To: Chris Richardson ; hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 2:38 
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  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] So what 
  is an EHR architecture, anyway?
  
  
  On Jul 29, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Chris Richardson wrote:
  
OK, I'll 
bite.
  Thanks.
  
  
EHR architecture, A record 
architecture which helps to maintainthemedical life history 
ofan individual.
  That sounds good. I might choose 
  something less restrictive here, as the focus seems to be almost entirely 
  longitudinal, a natural emphasis in an office environment, but I think there 
  is more to an EHR architecture than that.
  [You are partially correct, I did leave out the genetic components and 
  the predictive nature of projection, but I am not sure we do that very well 
  yet. As such, I put that into the extensibility aspect I mention 
  later.]
  
  
Such an architecture should be 
dynamic and flexible 
  Flexible in what way?
  
  [The medical record should be built with future 
  change in mind. There is no predictive crystal ball which projects all 
  of the enhancements that meical science will come up with or the magnitudes 
  and scales of the data they will produce. To wait for those wonderous 
  enhancements just means that we loose so much important data as to the picture 
  of general publichealth (the agregation ofmany of these 
  records into a profile of the public health and the situations which bring us 
  all to that state). Next, there needs to be the willingness to change to 
  affect such change as to modify personal and public behavior to reduce the 
  environmental health risks.]
  
  
enough to adapttothe 
changeing scal and density of medical data and also provide easy interchange 
with other data repositories. 
  
  
  Okay, this good. How would you define scale and density in this 
  context?
  [That would be predictive. Simple design 
  rules need to be established that allow for expansion without forcing our own 
  prejudice into the model. We do not know the challenges that the next 
  turn of the cycle will bring. Standing still is not an option. In 
  order to make meaningful decisions we need information from this time and 
  space in as readble and accessible form as possible 
(non-paper).

  
Adaptation is the 
key.
  
  This is a principle with which I completely agree, but it's not clear 
  that it is specifically an architectural principle. I would probably prefer to 
  call it a programmatic statement, or perhaps a design principle. On the other 
  hand, I can see that it could be argued that this is precisely the kind of 
  thing that belongs in an architecture.
  
  
Standardization is the soul of 
that interchange, but is not held slavishly to only those 
standards.
  
  Okay, this is your most radical statement yet, and I don't think it's 
  quite clear what you mean. You can't have it both ways: either you meet the 
  requirements of a standard or you don't. If what you mean is that standards 
  shouldn't be the driver in determining the basic architecture of an EHR, then 
  I agree. But if you mean that standards are useful, but we should feel free to 
  deviate from them when they prove inconvenient, then I most assuredly do not 
  agree.
  
  [Actually, you can have it both ways. 
  Standards are important, but they are only good for the general case. 
  Take a look at the Kernel programs, they break the standards in a variety of 
  ways in order to provide the flexibility to offer the functionality of the 
  underlying platform to the application without forcing the applications to 
  adapt to those specific platform specializations.]
  
  
 Itneeds to be 
extensible, 
  
  I agree. And sadly, this is one of the areas real systems most often fall 
  short.
  
  
expansive,
  
  Expansive? In what sense?
  [Specialist groups have different measures which 
  are not necessarily familiar to the general physician. The EHR should be 
  able to record such specialist information in such a way that would be 
  meaningful to another specialist in that field. Again, if we do not 
  provide an extensible framework to adapt to the emerging technologies, their 
  efforts would be meaningless. By the same token, the absence of such 
  records for a person who has never been seen by such a specialist, should not 
  be hampered, nor block a future encounter.]
  
  
secure (as in 
private),
  
  I don't know if this is your intent, but I wouldn't limit security in 
  this sense. If anything, I would emphasize that security includes 
  privacy.
  
  
and contain consistency 
checksto insure that the record is only changed by authorized 
individuals.
  
  That's part of security, too.
  
[Which is why I included it.]
 How is that, 
Greg?
  
  Not bad. I think my concept of 

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