Re: [H] Inexpensive blank DVD media

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:36 PM 16/08/2005, Greg Sevart wrote: Have you performed PIE/PIF and PO scans on these discs after some time has elapsed since burning? A simple successful burn is not nearly sufficient to determine if the burn was a quality How do I do a PIE/PIF or PO scan? T

Re: [H] Inexpensive blank DVD media

2005-08-17 Thread Greg Sevart
The problem isn't so much doing the scan...there are a handful of tools out there that can do it, and a handful of drives that support it (and a handful of those that can scan with any sort of consistency). The problem is being able to interpret the results properly, based on the speeds, drive

RE: [H] Inexpensive blank DVD media

2005-08-17 Thread Bobby Heid
Just found this: Verbatim 16x DVD+R/-R (100 ct) at OD for $37.99 http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.php?pos=110catid=18threadid=50 8625 Are these any good? Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Tuesday,

[H] PC won't boot

2005-08-17 Thread Jerry Jones
Built my wife's PC about a year ago. Epox MB with an Athlon, 2 sticks of 256MB RAM, 2 hard drives, DVD drive, and a Radeon 9800SE vid card. Recently when she turns on the PC it usually will not boot and just makes a sound that is kind of an alternating high then low beep. Hitting the reset

Re: [H] PC won't boot

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 11:46 AM 17/08/2005, Jerry Jones wrote: each hard drive individually and then both hard drives. I have tried booting with just one stick of memory. At this point I am at a loss for what might be wrong. Could the CPU be dead? The motherboard? Or does it sound like a power supply problem?

Re: [H] PC won't boot

2005-08-17 Thread Winterlight
then both hard drives. I have tried booting with just one stick of memory. At this point I am at a loss for what might be wrong. Could the CPU be dead? The motherboard? Or does it sound like a power supply problem? Jerry Sounds like a dead motherboard

RE: [H] PC won't boot

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Dodge
Check the caps on the MB to see if any are bulging. Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:47 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] PC won't boot Built my

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Neil Davidson
Don't complain. 1 Gallon (US) = 3.79 litres 1 litre = ~£0.90 (from the BBC news site as of last week) 1 Gallon = ~£3.41 = ~$6.16 How's that! :( -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: 17

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Henrik Tived
Guys, stop complaining, Denmark has for the last decade paid close to US$2 per litre if not more DownUnder (Australia) we are currently paying $1.12-1.20 aussie dollars per litre (USD$0.77 = AUD$1) so what were you saying about your high gas price ?? :-) Henrik - Original Message

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Brian Weeden
See, this is the beautiful thing about capitalism that I tried to explain to my Canadian girlfriend. Unfortunately in the world we live in the vast majority of people are not going to do something simply because it is the right thing to do or is for the good of everyone. They need an incentive,

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread 007
Modified Toyota hybrids have been known to give 250 Miles/gallon. Cost of modification is about $14,000 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE:

Re: [hardware] Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Steve
In my area (Sydney) price starts on Wed morning @ AU$1.18/litre for regular unleaded i.e.4.72/US Gallon or US$3.60. Add another 0.07/l for Premium. By Tues its dropped to 1.10/l. Then the cycle repeats. And the government the oil companies say there is no collusion? yeah...right Diesel

Re: [H] Check out this Dell deal, expires 8-17

2005-08-17 Thread Veech
Yeah, checking around I see that they've been that low in the past, as recently as late July. I'll wait around to see if it goes on sale again, no rush. Man, what a nice monitor. I've been with a 17 CRT for ages. Looking at getting one of those hot rod GeForce 7800 cards, hoping they're

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Gary VanderMolen
I paid $2.73 for regular at a discount station yesterday (Bay area). Gary VanderMolen

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:58 PM 17/08/2005, 007 wrote: Modified Toyota hybrids have been known to give 250 Miles/gallon. Cost of modification is about $14,000 Sweet Jesus. Is this something that is relatively easy to do? I want 250mpg. :) T

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Hayes Elkins
Rock on, but where are you getting your juice from? http://cbs5.com/consumer/consumer_story_225005357.html Backers of plug-in hybrids acknowledge that the electricity to boost their cars generally comes from fossil fuels that create greenhouse gases, but they say that process still produces

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Brian Weeden
On 8/17/05, Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:58 PM 17/08/2005, 007 wrote: Modified Toyota hybrids have been known to give 250 Miles/gallon. Cost of modification is about $14,000 Sweet Jesus. Is this something that is relatively easy to do? I want 250mpg. :)

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Gary VanderMolen
Veech wrote: $3.00 + in LA, and I had to buy a car that uses premium! Wonder how much damage I'll do to run it on regular? Most people don't realize that premium gas is just regular gas with some anti-knock compounds added. Modern engines have anti-knock sensors, so if you accidentally fill

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
I paid $2.55/gal for Regular today. I just wonder if we'll ever get back to the $1.50/gal days again. As harsh as it sounds, low gas prices are a lot more important to me that supporing anybody's agenda or liberating other countries. It's funny, though, that the gas companies are posting

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: It's funny, though, that the gas companies are posting record profits. So I really wonder how much of this is an increase in oil price, and how much is just an excuse to charge more for gasoline. I look at it this way, assuming that a gas company wants

RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Bobby Heid
I hope you meant $30/barrel! LOL. Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:15 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices snip There was a study in Canada that found that

RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread 007
The most fuel efficient cars use heavy water. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:16 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: It's

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :( From: 007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 13:26:05 CDT 2005 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote: A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :( This doesn't make sense. It takes energy to split water into Oxygen and

Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
The energy to crack the water was from solar panels mounted on the roof. Apparently they have a similar system now hybridized with a gasoline engine in a 7 series. http://www.bmwworld.com/models/750hl.htm From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 13:39:10 CDT 2005 To: The

RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread 007
I was referring to fission technology (U235). Since fusion is years away. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 007 Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:26 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices The most fuel efficient cars

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Gary VanderMolen
Ben Ruset wrote: A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked the water into hydrogen within the car itself. Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :( Did someone repeal the laws of physics and chemistry? It takes more energy to crack water than

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:52 PM 17/08/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote: Did someone repeal the laws of physics and chemistry? It takes more energy to crack water than you get back when recombining the hydrogen and oxygen. I think that report was a misunderstanding of the technology. The idea is to use solar

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread joeuser
Were saying it was running about 2.00 and under just a year or so ago. Henrik Tived wrote: so what were you saying about your high gas price ?? :-) -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
If you're cracking hydrogen in your car why would you need to fill up at a station? From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 13:56:41 CDT 2005 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices At 03:52 PM 17/08/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote: Did

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:51 PM 17/08/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: If you're cracking hydrogen in your car why would you need to fill up at a station? Because cracking hydrogen requires more power than you can generate on current solar panels small enough to fit on a car roof. IIRC, there's a company here that sells

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Zulfiqar Naushad
Gas prices expensive??? Here in Saudi Arabia the state price (i.e. nothing less or more than the state price is available at any gas station) is .90 halalas (cent equivalent of a riyal(dollar)) per liter. i.e 1 Gallon = 90 US cents. BWAHAHAHAH!!! Almost every car here in Saudi is a V6

Re: Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
So then if you're already filling your tank, what's the point of cracking more? Seems like it would add needless expense, complexity, and weight to the vehicle. From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 15:00:37 CDT 2005 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject:

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
Further proof that the oil companies are gouging customers outside the mideast. You can't tell me that there is a ~$1.60/gal charge that goes to only pay transport and taxes. From: Zulfiqar Naushad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 15:17:29 CDT 2005 To: The Hardware List

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys, we are getting screwed! The oil companies have been crying for years that oil prices are way behind inflation. I say, so what! I thought the idea was to keep inflation down in the first place. The Government needs to include fuel and food in the

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Fuel cells are a very good alternative and should be practically available in the near future. Jeff - Original Message - From: Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:39 AM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread FORC5
PPL here bitch about the prices but are not willing to do anything about it. Non new refineries in 30 years, and no drilling in Alaska. me, I'd say piss on the Saudi's ( no offense ) , let them see if they can squirt that oil on the sand and grow food with it !!! :-} if it were up to me I'd cut

Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of doing it, and supposedly yeilds less energy than what was spent in producing it. Making Ethanol from sugar cane, as Brazil has done, makes MORE energy

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Gary Udstrand
Ethanol is a boondoggle. It has been demonstrated that it takes more fossil fuel is used to create Ethanol than it provides in return. Ethanol programs are nothing more that governments subsidies for ADM. -Gary jeff.lane said the following on 8/17/2005 3:43 PM: Hell, we can grow ethanol.

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several years ago that claimed they had made cold fusion work. That is clean, safe, perpetual, fusion .I don't recall their names but they had the scientific world standing on it's head for sometime until they discovered that it was

Re: [H] PC won't boot/bad caps

2005-08-17 Thread FORC5
bad caps on mb's in my pile Abit Asus MSI DFI ECS Compaq Soyo Epox I do not believe any body is immune and I often wonder about other electronic gear like TV's etc. Power supplies I have not kept a pile on fp At 01:19 PM 8/17/2005, Francisco Tapia Poked the stick with: Sounds like power to me,

Re: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
tinfoil The oil companies probably had them killed or paid off. /tinfoil From: jeff.lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 16:00:17 CDT 2005 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread FORC5
hope so, especially since Canada is drilling not far from where we want to drill. but that is only a beginning, lot more to do. I suspect the Caribou population may double. fp At 01:58 PM 8/17/2005, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with: Didn't drilling in Alaska just pass? I consider myself an

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Dodge
2.53 here in Phoenix Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:24 AM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] Gas prices I paid $2.45US/gallon on Monday. Bobby

RE: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Mark Dodge
You don't live in Washington do you? Mark Dodge MD Computers 602-421-0329 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jeff.lane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:44 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices Hell, we can

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread joeuser
Brazil beat us to the punch with the Ethanol thing - they are WAY ahead of us. Friggin sad too. Ben Ruset wrote: I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of doing it, and supposedly yeilds less

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Analyst
On 17 Aug 2005 at 15:26, Ben Ruset wrote: Further proof that the oil companies are gouging customers outside the mideast. You can't tell me that there is a ~$1.60/gal charge that goes to only pay transport and taxes. From: Zulfiqar Naushad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Aug 17 15:17:29 CDT

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Analyst
On 17 Aug 2005 at 15:58, Ben Ruset wrote: Didn't drilling in Alaska just pass? No, it is supposed to be jammed into the upcoming budget bill. I consider myself an environmentalist and I support drilling in Alaska. You'll likely be disappointed. Spence Abraham, who was this

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Greg Sevart
and that: the roughly 10 billion barrels of oil expected to be found there would be the equivalent of JUST SIX MONTHS OF U.S. CONSUMPTION http://www.sacbee.com/news/special/power/032001abraham.html Vince ...but given that we produce something like ~40% of our oil DOMESTICALLY, and

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Right, Gary. I agree with you and Russ. I was just giving an example of one way to tell the oil cartels to take a hike. Jeff - Original Message - From: Gary Udstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:56 PM Subject:

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
OOPSyou and Ben. Long day... - Original Message - From: Gary Udstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices Ethanol is a boondoggle. It has been demonstrated that

RE: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-17 Thread James Maki
(I corrected the subject line) I guess this will be the end of a free version of Sygate Personal Firewall and the beginning of the product being screwed up.. Has Symantec ever acquired any product and then made real improvements? (Norton, Central Point Software, Winfax, Ghost, etc.). Jim

Re: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
No - Original Message - From: James Maki To: 'The Hardware List' Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:13 PM Subject: RE: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate) (I corrected the subject line) I guess this will be the end of a free

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 05:17 PM 17/08/2005, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote: Gas prices expensive??? Here in Saudi Arabia the state price (i.e. nothing less or more than the state price is available at any gas station) is .90 halalas (cent equivalent of a riyal(dollar)) per liter. i.e 1 Gallon = 90 US cents. BWAHAHAHAH!!!

RE: [H] Sygate scoops up Sygate... (Symantec scoops up Sygate)

2005-08-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:13 PM 17/08/2005, James Maki wrote: (I corrected the subject line) I guess this will be the end of a free version of Sygate Personal Firewall and the beginning of the product being screwed up.. Has Symantec ever acquired any product and then made real improvements? (Norton, Central

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Al
Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too bad the US wouldn't kick the shit out of Saudi Arabia then, and get the price here down to a better level. You say that so nonchalantly, like the lives involved are worthless. I don't understand, Al

RE: [H] Hard Drive Failure

2005-08-17 Thread rls
For the condition you describe - you would have to send it back to a service that would actually remove the platters and install them in another drive casing. The cost for that would be steep and probably a month turn around. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread FORC5
drug cartel ought to be looking here :{) new black market At 05:00 PM 8/17/2005, Analyst Poked the stick with: To really get your blood boiling, gasoline in Venezuela is only 25 cents a gallon. Anybody want to captain a tanker full of gasoline back to the U.S. ? (Talk about ridin' a rocket)

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Bill Cohane
At 17:00 08/17/05, jeff.lane wrote: Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in Utah, several years ago that claimed they had made cold fusion work. That is clean, safe, perpetual, fusion .I don't recall their names but they had the scientific world standing on it's head for

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Rick Quilhot
2.799 Jackson, Michigan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Dodge Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] Gas prices 2.53 here in Phoenix Mark Dodge MD Computers

RE: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Chris Reeves
Helium3, however, which could be harvest and we know how the process works, is fairly to very viable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Cohane Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:45 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Ben Ruset
Ball lightning is real - I have seen it. Bill Cohane wrote: So Physicists have pretty much debunked cold fusion. Interestingly, the DOE (Dept. of Energy) still occasionally gets suckered by cold fusion claims. These guys still seem willing to spend our tax dollars on research grants for

RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Michael Decker
Nope, drilling in the ANWR was dropped from the energy bill before it passed. (Drilling for/pumping oil has been permitted in other parts of Alaska, mostly the North Slope area, for a long time.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset

Different take on RE: [H] Inexpensive blank DVD media

2005-08-17 Thread rls
My advice for those that burn a number of disks -- Buy Good or Great 8X media - the cost savings from going to 16X to 8X more that offsets buying the great media. Then buy another DVD burner -- at $50 you will offset the media cost differential. Then either copy to both burners at once - or run

Re: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Analyst
On 17 Aug 2005 at 18:29, Greg Sevart wrote: ...but given that we produce something like ~40% of our oil DOMESTICALLY, and the majority of the remainder comes from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela, we wouldn't need to replace 100% of our oil consumption with oil from the ANWR. Even if we only

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread jeff.lane
Well said. - Original Message - From: Bill Cohane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices At 17:00 08/17/05, jeff.lane wrote: Like cold fusion? There were a couple of scientists, in

Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Julian Hale
Hey, no shit... I just live a little north of you. I'm in Elk. Julian At 04:57 PM 8/17/2005, jeff.lane wrote: Spokane - Original Message - From: Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:15 PM Subject: RE: RE:

Re: [H] Gas prices

2005-08-17 Thread Eli Allen
There is no known way of using man made fusion reactors. - Original Message - Helium3, however, which could be harvest and we know how the process works, is fairly to very viable.

Re: [H] Hard Drive Failure

2005-08-17 Thread warpmedia
If it's hot to the touch, wait for it to cool try again to backup the data. rls wrote: For the condition you describe - you would have to send it back to a service that would actually remove the platters and install them in another drive casing. The cost for that would be steep and probably a