time trying to max
up a TDI and pay over 30k even with leather/gps/etc.
The benz diesel is of course a mercedes and is north
of 50K
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The problem (as I understand it) is that oil gets set a price of $X no
matter where it comes from. I think this price is set by the people
Nor will I after a VW Beetle blew its engine while driving flat-out on a
cross-country trip in 1968. Worst handling car I ever drove!
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Never will I ever own another VW.
Las Vegas used to be a big empty desert decades ago too...
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:19:07 -0700
Nor will I after a VW
Yeah yeah, I hear all the time from accross the pond
how we shouldn't
complain.
Bah, we make a large part of our own oil so we should
be complaining
when that it's too expensive!
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Be thankful you don't live in the UK
1 UKP per LITRE.
Love my girlfriend's Jetta TDI! Even with higher
diesel prices it's like
paying half the cost of unleaded because of the
mileage she gets
commuting. 50+ MPG doing a 100mi round trip commute 4
days a week and
refilling once a week or longer.
Hayes Elkins wrote:
The VW Jetta TDI that gets
Are those not pretty expensive cars ?
fp
At 05:38 AM 5/22/2007, j maccraw Poked the stick with:
Love my girlfriend's Jetta TDI! Even with higher
diesel prices it's like
paying half the cost of unleaded because of the
mileage she gets
commuting. 50+ MPG doing a 100mi round trip commute 4
days a
hardware@hardwaregroup.com
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:37:20 -0700
Are those not pretty expensive cars ?
fp
At 05:38 AM 5/22/2007, j maccraw Poked the stick with:
Love my girlfriend's Jetta TDI! Even with higher
diesel prices it's like
paying half the cost of unleaded
At 09:26 AM 22/05/2007, j maccraw wrote:
Bah, we make a large part of our own oil so we should
be complaining
when that it's too expensive!
It's my understanding that the US imports most of its oil.
T
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At 09:26 AM 22/05/2007, j maccraw wrote:
Bah, we make a large part of our own oil so we should
be complaining
when that it's too expensive!
It's my understanding that the US imports most of its oil.
T
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Yeah yeah, I hear all the time from accross the pond
how we shouldn't
complain.
Bah, we make a large part of our own oil so we should
be complaining
when that it's too
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Yeah yeah, I hear all the time from accross the pond
how we shouldn't
complain.
Bah, we make a large part of our own oil so we
should
be complaining
when that it's too expensive
The problem (as I understand it) is that oil gets set a price of $X no
matter where it comes from. I think this price is set by the people who
buy and sell oil as a commodity.
The only impact they feel is that the limo is a little more expensive to
run from month to month.
j maccraw wrote:
That's about what Premium is around here (NJ) now.
Jin-Wei Tioh wrote:
At 11:53 AM 5/20/2007, you wrote:
Filled up this morning and noticed the gas station had the pump
wrong. Always nice to pay $1.34 a gallon for premium
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WTF?!?! I just pumped 13
Be thankful you don't live in the UK
1 UKP per LITRE.
Regards,
Jason Tozer
Database Analyst
London
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?, but I'm not having much luck ;)
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 22:09:35 -0500
At 11:53 AM 5/20/2007, you wrote
At 09:19 AM 5/21/2007, you wrote:
14.5 gallons of american made, $3.00 (not a cent of which goes to
any filthy, terror-supporting-by-proxy, middle eastern oil cartel),
biodiesel here, B100 grade. There are now several B100 suppliers in
the MD/VA/DC area. The B20 pump at the Pentagon is filth
Major pet peeve of mine.
There are tons of diesels out there that kick the sh*t outta the hybrids in
mileage and proven longevity, but we are not allowed to buy them here for
some damn reason. Instead, they push these hybrids on us.
Let's see, longer engine life, vastly improved mileage, less
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 15:02:56 -0700
Major pet peeve of mine.
There are tons of diesels out there that kick the sh*t outta the hybrids in
mileage and proven longevity, but we are not allowed to buy them here for
some damn reason. Instead, they push
Oh, I know the reason why, the idiot environmentalists in my and other
states. :(
But they have not been valid reasons for a long time as far as I am
concerned. As you said, the diesel of today is not what it was back in the
70's
My concern is I want a small high mileage diesel pickup
As far as why diesels for consumers are so rare, you can thank the
antiquated hippy laws in states like California that perhaps at one
point were noble due to diesel fuel being more polluting back in the 1970s.
As someone who received an Environmental Study Degree, in the state
of
Me too.
either that, or a nice Nissan Frontier Diesel.
Nissan's diesels are very very reliable worldwide too..
However, I am looking forward to a Diesel Toyota truck.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to get one that is made in Japan.
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what gets that kind of mileage ?
AFAIK this bio stuff is not available here (AZ)
fp
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I also get around 45 - 50 mpg depending on traffic and if the AC is on. I'm
currently looking for a bumper sticker that says Unlike hybrids, I actually
fuel efficient 'vette, and the Jetta TDI:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060424/FREE/60417021SearchID=73244466514443
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Also, biodiesel is available in AZ
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate.asp?st=AZ
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 16:12:26 -0700
As someone who received an Environmental Study Degree, in the state of
California
Hayes Elkins wrote:
Low sulfur diesel is available right now. What you are probably
thinking of is the blue-tec line of diesel engine cars coming out in
model year 08. Mercedes Benz 220 and VW Jetta, to name a few. What's
great about these engines is more horsepower and torque per liter yet
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:04:40 -0700
what gets that kind of mileage ?
AFAIK this bio stuff is not available here (AZ)
fp
At 03:26 PM 5/21/2007, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with:
I also get around 45 - 50 mpg depending
://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/showstate.asp?st=AZ
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:04:40 -0700
what gets that kind of mileage
Filled up this morning and noticed the gas station had the pump wrong. Always
nice to pay $1.34 a gallon for premium
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That is pretty sweet.
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Filled up this morning and noticed the gas station had the pump wrong. Always
nice to pay $1.34 a gallon for premium
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Yep. On shawnee Mission pkwy
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Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:53:59
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Was it in JoCo somewhere, by chance
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Yep. On shawnee Mission pkwy
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From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:53:59
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Yeah filling up the 20 gallon tank on my van.. I'd take $23 over $68 any day.
:)
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From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:14:55
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I hope the guys in the black suv's don't start following youExxon and
the Arabs will be watchinghope they get heartburn big-time :)
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Yeah filling up the 20 gallon tank on my van.. I'd take $23 over $68 any
day
At 11:53 AM 5/20/2007, you wrote:
Filled up this morning and noticed the gas station had the pump
wrong. Always nice to pay $1.34 a gallon for premium
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WTF?!?! I just pumped 13 gallons of 87 for $3.25/gallon! :(
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