Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this
LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Open question?
Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need
All wired here except for one printer on a wireless print buffer.
Actually have two separate networks here, my wife's and mine (this is
called peace of mind;-). My wife has actually removed the antennae
from her router because she was seeing the neighbor's network (well, she
realized
Mix here. Back in 2003 when I lived in Montana I wired my whole house with
Cat5e and RG6 drops, of course then I moved a year later and have moved
twice more since then (I was in the military until 2007 and my wife still
is). So for me to put the time in effort into completely wiring a house
: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs
Being home bound with vision problems, wifi really doesn't offer me
anything that wired doesn't do better. If I was more mobile, I would
probably use both.
RegardsGary
At 06:24 PM 5/12/2010, It was written by DSinc that this shall come to pass:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that
Hello DSinc,
Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 6:24:52 PM, you wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
Hell no, 10/100 here. Use wireless as needed. Turned on and off.
--
Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for
What need for a laptop unless it's for business purposes and you need to
go online periodically during the day when away from home? I can wait
until I get back to my desktop.
On 5/12/2010 9:36 PM, DSinc wrote:
Michael,
TNX. This seems to be a new norm.
I don't do laptops yet.
Duncan
On
JRS,
Your world I knew. Yes. NAS is quick on the GBit wired LAN. Can not
compare with previous 10/100 wired LAN. GBit upgrade was an eye-opener
for me.
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 01:19, John R Steinbruner wrote:
Both
Both PC's, the laser printer, and both NAS boxen in the computer room are
Steve,
TNX. I do understand your choices. I am beginning to rethink my basic
assumption/belief. Hmm.
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 06:02, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
All wired here except for one printer on a wireless print buffer.
Actually have two separate networks here, my wife's and mine (this is
Brian,
TNX. I recall that you did mention your choices before.
Yes, I am thinking of the guest w/toys angle. I do not do DHCP at my
router ATM. But, I may now test this feature with a limited range of
addy's for guests to use. I know; more research.
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 06:22, Brian Weeden
Gary,
TNX. Understand. My clients are spread throughout the house.
Have always been wired since the start.
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 07:04, Gary Jackson wrote:
Being home bound with vision problems, wifi really doesn't offer me
anything that wired doesn't do better. If I was more mobile, I would
Joe User,
TNX. Understand the need in a consultant/repair environment.
I do not consult (except w/family) and fix my own boo-boo's with help
from the List.
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 08:16, Joe User wrote:
Hello DSinc,
Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 6:24:52 PM, you wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW
Why so complex, Duncan?
Lock your wireless network down with a hard password and give the guess
a simple one. I use a 63 digit hex string for my network from
wireless. For the guest part, which are not allowed to see my computers,
I have a simple one that I can tell them.
On 5/13/2010
pair.
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boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
.
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From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now
actively
Anthony,
I suppose we have different feelings about complex.
I feel that WIFI is a level of 'complex' I just do not yet require.
Nothing more.
I understand your position and use of WIFI. Yes, a 63-digit master PW
would make much sense. But, even in my 'primitive' wired LAN, my guests
have no
If you are using WPA2 encryption on your WiFi then you have nothing to worry
about in terms of someone cracking it, especially if you use a 64 character
password generated by this site:
https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm
---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World
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boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I
Brian,
TNX. Yes, am aware of the new WPA2 encryption, and, this website. GRC
and I have been friends for many years.
I accept that WIFI will fully mature as it gets pushed harder into the
consumer space for all things INTERNET. I simply choose to delay this
technology at my home until my
At 01:23 PM 13/05/2010, DSinc wrote:
Brian,
TNX. Yes, am aware of the new WPA2 encryption, and, this website.
GRC and I have been friends for many years.
I accept that WIFI will fully mature as it gets pushed harder into
the consumer space for all things INTERNET. I simply choose to
delay
, and reliability of good old
fashioned twisted pair.
-Original Message-
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boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW
At 01:32 PM 13/05/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Unless they are shielded, they still leak some RF energy, bro!
Doesn't matter, he wears lead long underwear. :)
T
Gibson has also acknowledged many times that there is no such thing as
perfect security for ANYTHING. Given a long enough timeline, anything can
be broken or cracked. It all depends how far your paranoia goes.
If you absolutely want to ensure your security and privacy, then you should
live in a
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are there many of us old
Thane,
LMAO!!! But, hey? Not a bad idea! This coming summer could be a bit
soggy however. I am in shorts/t-shirt weather ATM. Those longies might
start a new fashion-trend. Believe I'll pass.
Besides, my home is mostly lead-free (w/certificate). Nah!!
Best,
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 12:45, Thane
Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this
LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are there many of us
the performance, security, and reliability of good
old
fashioned twisted pair.
-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question
Brian,
Good point. A bit more absolute than my life could handle. I do have the
technology background to deal with a Faraday Cage, but, this is not the
point. And, I choose not to build one.
I freely accept the compromises I have made to play Internet to meet my
needs ATM (since 1970). I
[mailto:hardware-
boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this
LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start
: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about
What is the difference between Cat 5, 5e, and 6?
Here is a brief synopsis...
http://ezinearticles.com/?CAT5-vs-CAT5E-vs-CAT6id=322715
On Thursday 13 May 2010 00:24:52 DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are
Gaffer,
Yes, that is sorta what I've always thought!
TNX.
Best,
Duncan
On 05/13/2010 15:48, Gaffer wrote:
On Thursday 13 May 2010 00:24:52 DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish
Or any other method where the pass[hrase doesn't consist of elements that can be
cracked by dictionary attacks.
Common mistake people make is setting up a password vs. passphrase and in either
case further making the mistake of only using alphanumeric limiting entropy to 64
possibilities per
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired
Still wired LAN at my house.
- Original Message -
From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI
tnx Veech. (thought so!)
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 19:30, Veech wrote:
Still wired LAN at my house.
- Original Message - From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are there many of us old fools
both.
fp
At 04:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc Poked the stick with:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of
Wired, but run wireless for the daughter's laptop when she visits from
college.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: DSinc
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this
LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
if I'm outside on
the porch.
lopaka
From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 4:24:52 PM
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively
using
Both
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
(Are there many of us old fools still using
Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi.
At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is
now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the
I will never go wireless. Ever!
On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of
I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
-Original Message-
From: DSinc
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively
I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
is not bad.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?
Gary
Stan,
TNX.
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 21:11, Stan Zaske wrote:
I will never go wireless. Ever!
On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with
Gary,
Understand the lifestyle change; and your creds.
Suppose I am still a desktop-junkie.
No harm, no foul. Just wondering.
TNX,
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 21:47, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a
Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
But, TNX anyway.
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:
I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
is not bad.
:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Open question?
Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
But, TNX anyway.
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:
I do, if I'm
Michael,
TNX. This seems to be a new norm.
I don't do laptops yet.
Duncan
On 05/12/2010 20:13, Michael Resnick wrote:
Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi.
At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
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Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere
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[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Open question?
Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
of good old
fashioned twisted pair.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
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Is it fair for me to NOW believe
,
and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired.
Tony
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
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Bryan
...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both
Both
Both PC's, the laser printer, and both NAS boxen in the computer room are all
on a wired Gigabit switch...
NAS transfers are very fast that way... :)
But I use wireless for the MacBook Pro laptop and the Xbox 360 in the living
room where I don't have any ethernet cables..
Works
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