Quoth Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de,
...
The problem seems to lie in the HaskellNet package. If for example I
only fetch a specific message
m - fetch con 2092
having a size of some 1.2m then I get the same stack overflow.
If at runtime I specify +RTS -K40M -RTS it works but takes
Quoth Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de,
In the end the only thing I need is to get the full message because I
want to feed bogofilter to learn that a message is ham or spam.
For the time being I decided to write my own program to fetch the data
because it is a good exercise for a Haskell
Quoth Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de,
...
I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. Stack overflow comes
from this:
forM_ msgs (\x - fetch con x = print)
If I change it to:
mapM_ (\x - fetch con x = print) msgs
there is the same stack overflow.
I didn't
Quoth Richard O'Keefe o...@cs.otago.ac.nz,
[ ... re Werner Kuhn An Image-Schematic Account of Spatial Categories ... ]
class BUILDING building where
specify the behavior of buildings here, if any
class BUILDING house = HOUSE house where
specify additional behavior of houses here, if any
Quoth Felipe Almeida Lessa felipe.le...@gmail.com,
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Paul Johnson p...@cogito.org.uk wrote:
If you open a file for writing and then exit with output unflushed, then
Haskell does not flush the file for you. Â In ghci the program seems to work,
but then when you
The docs
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/users_guide/ffi-ghc.html#glasgow-foreign-headers
say that -#include pragmas no longer work, but fail to explain how to
load code without them. Suffice to say I have no recourse but trial
and error.
Ah, now that is a GHC documentation
Quoth Kazu Yamamoto (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCOzNLXE9CSScbKEI=?=) k...@iij.ad.jp,
I would like to know how to change a process name in Haskell. When we
are programming in C, we can change it by overriding argv on Unix.
But I cannot find the same way to do in Haskell. Can anyone suggest
how in
Quoth Jason Dagit dag...@gmail.com,
...
Yes. From my perspective (that of a library writer) that's what makes
this tricky in GHCi. I need GHCi's cooperation. From GHCi's
perspective it's tricky too.
It seems to me that ideally, GHCi would do its thing in a child
thread, like the extra
Quoth =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E1bor_Lehel?= illiss...@gmail.com,
...
Stated another way: I suspect most GUI libraries don't really actually
care that you only execute GUI code from the main OS thread, as much
as they care that only one (thread-unsafe) GUI function is being
called at any given time.
Quoth Brandon Allbery allber...@gmail.com,
...
I don't know about the general case, but OS X does treat the main
thread specially here; the (native, not X11) framework sets up the
connection to Core Graphics in the main thread before invoking the
main program, so you can't make whatever it is
to believe.
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Quoth Manuel M T Chakravarty c...@cse.unsw.edu.au,
Sean Leather:
...
To simplify the process of installing GHC and to support people
with versions of Mac OS X older than the most current. We want to
spread the Haskell love as far as possible.
The only simplification is that people who
Quoth Erik Hesselink hessel...@gmail.com,
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 13:40, Neil Davies semanticphilosop...@gmail.com
wrote:
Anyone out there got an elegant solution to being able to fork a haskell
thread and replace its 'stdin' ?
If you don't mind being tied to GHC you can use hDuplicateTo
Quoth Chris Smith cdsm...@gmail.com,
That's interesting... whatever the reason, though, I concur that using
Haskell seems much easier on Linux and Windows. I had to abandon a plan
to introduce Haskell in a class I taught this past semester because of
issues with getting it installed on the
Quoth KC kc1...@gmail.com,
... Xcode3.2.6, Haskell Platform 2011.2.0.1
What are 2or 3 ways so far to get a GUI graphics?
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Using_Haskell_in_an_Xcode_Cocoa_project
... if you don't mind that there will be some Objective C involved.
I have written only a very
Quoth Daniel Peebles pumpkin...@gmail.com,
I thought Apple had stopped bundling the dev tools with installation DVDs?
Do you have an install DVD with no Xcode on it? I have it on a
10.6 DVD, when would this have happened (or stopped happening)?
Quoth Nathan Howell nathan.d.how...@gmail.com,
Quoth Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@googlemail.com,
...
calling bfd_openr alone produces tons of undefined references, I've no idea
what libraries I'd have to link with also :(
Try -lbfd -liberty -lz ?
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...
So here's my (perhaps slightly provoking) question: do we need to
care at all about good GUI toolkits being available? Web applications,
especially with an HTML 5 front-end, have become increasingly more
powerful. If we can
Quoth wren ng thornton w...@freegeek.org,
...
But yes, the mere process of making bindings isn't especially
cumbersome. Anyone interested in prior art should take a look at the
Perl--ObjectiveC bridgework, CamelBones:
http://camelbones.sourceforge.net/
Note (again) that there's
a trick with the layout?
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the old thread mentioned earlier, a lambda with multiple
definitions -
fx = \ Opt1 - ...
Opt2 - ...
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it probably calls hs_main() or something like that? and you
could add your own xx_main() to the stack.
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Quoth Peter Simons sim...@cryp.to,
...
having a dictator is not a necessary prerequisite for the ability to
make decisions. It's quite possible to decide controversial matters
without a dictator -- say, by letting people vote.
The problem might be slightly miscast here, as an inability to
character
and you get a reversible split. It wasn't a new idea, the Bourne
shell for example has a similar dual semantics depending on whether
the separator is white space or not. Somehow doesn't seem right
for Haskell, though.
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of the the fairly
commonly used ICANON flag, without looking at the source.
If you're hoping that in the course of time a significantly
functionally designed API will come along for any of these things,
note that names it might have used are already taken.
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essentially unchanged, that the
spellings also be preserved to whatever extent practicable.
thanks!
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For me, that's an en-dash (U+2013 / '\8211').
I believe something on your box mangled the UTF-8 encoding.
When I saw this last night, I looked out of curiosity and saw
the same thing, as my browser rendered the source with a dash.
My thought was that this morning, someone would be embarrassed
Quoth Ryan Ingram ryani.s...@gmail.com,
I suggest that we should be able to specify RTS options at
compile/link time, or as pragmas in the Main module.
It would be good for me in any case if I could specify the value of
an option at compile time, though I suppose you mean to specify which
solves the problem of an application that
uses SIGALRM in its own timer.
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it does, beyond
the SIGALRM difference. I run my own application this way without
apparent serious harm, but it could be failing to reclaim memory for
example, due to missed garbage collections.
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Quoth John Lask jvl...@hotmail.com,
...
By the way I am not arguing for TDNR, merely that all is not well with
haskell records.
And you have a lot of company there, but the discussion is taking
place in a thread named Type Directed Name Resolution. When that
has been put to rest, let's talk
Quoth Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com,
...
Scripting language strikes me as one of those terms that is used in
heated arguments despite having no meaning (meaningless terms seem to
proliferate as the heat is turned up). I dunno, I just don't think it
is a big deal. Everybody seems to be
.
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And it's a moot point if there's no way to do it.
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If safe, the two sleep intervals will overlap. I believe we all
now expect that, but if it does come as a surprise, I hope someone
will test it on a more common platform. +RTS -N2 makes no difference.
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---
{-# LANGUAGE
,
but deterministically and at a rate much faster than normal,
and anyway I suppose that's talking about green threads, not the
OS threads where context switches are an OS function.
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Quoth Jeremy Shaw jer...@n-heptane.com,
...
I wonder what it would take to make it so that the message body could
be multipart mime...
Well, here's what it takes for me -
- function to determine file type of attachment (e.g., image/jpeg)
- data encoding (base64, maybe quoted-printable, others)
lamented and various confusing
propositions were bandied about. I should dig that up if I can, and
see if this practical example sheds some light on any of it.
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Quoth Ben Franksen ben.frank...@online.de,
Enough. I think I have made my point.
Yes, though possibly a little overstated it. While it's easy to share
your distaste for the blurb, if you take a generous attitude towards it,
most of it is true enough.
The implementation specific features are
environments
than just Java. But it isn't relevant here, right? Since neither the
Haskell nor OpenSSL implementations are both compiled to CPU instructions.
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think managed? And in my confused present state
I would say it's unmanaged.
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Quoth Petr Pudlak d...@pudlak.name,
I have a question for native English speakers: What is the correct
pronunciation of the name Curry (in Haskell Curry) and the derived
verb currying? I found on Wikitonary the name is (probably) of Irish
orgin, so I suppose that the pronunciation may by
Quoth Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org,
...
Just that they seem to be natural generalizations. If it's just the
single form of paramtrizing the condition, I think it's better served by
a regular function, 'bool' or (??) or whatever.
Well, yes, there's some logic to that. Like,
bool b c a = if a
Quoth Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org,
Max Bolingbroke batterseapo...@hotmail.com writes:
...
Prelude (if then Haskell else Cafe) False
Cafe
Presumably, this extends to
Prelude (if False then else Cafe) Haskell
Cafe
and
Prelude (if then Haskell else) False Cafe
Cafe
as well?
I think
Quoth Richard O'Keefe o...@cs.otago.ac.nz,
...
Erlang manages fine with multiclause 'fun':
(fun (1) - One ; (_) - Not-one end)(1)
ML manages fine with multiclause 'fn':
(fn 1 = one | _ = not-one)(1)
In both cases, the same notation is used for multiclause lambda as
for single
Quoth Henning Thielemann lemm...@henning-thielemann.de,
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Bas van Dijk wrote:
I believe UnicodeSyntax and symbols make code easier to read.
If it can be read at all ... your Unicode symbol for '::' isn't shown in
my terminal.
Same here, of course. Win small, lose big.
Quoth Brandon S Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu,
...
They line up fine in a fixed width font. Programming in any
indentation-sensitive language in a proportional font leads inevitably to
use of tabs to make things line up properly, which leads directly to pain.
I haven't noticed urgent
Quoth Alexander Solla a...@2piix.com,
...
That's not so nice looking now, but consider what happens when you have
four or five arguments:
type Label = String
type Address = String
data Foo a b = Foo (Maybe Label) Address a
| Bar Label b
Though it's common practice for sure, maybe universal, does the
Don't insert a space after a lambda rule make sense?
I found it confusing at first sight, because of course it looks
like something else - in \n m - ..., to the uninitiated it
represents a newline, for example. Now that I understand
solved.
Maybe over time, Haskell programmers will clean up all those problems
in the foreign code they want to run.
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very likely there's a simpler way to do this with
Data.Serial as written, I am just a little backwards with state
monads and that kind of thing.
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Quoth Donn Cave d...@avvanta.com,
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I think it's very likely there's a simpler way to do this with
Data.Serial as written, I am just a little backwards with state
monads and that kind of thing.
OK, another look at it reveals that mplus can be used for this
application, so much more simply
interest in their views on
software engineering, etc., but mostly it comes down to your charisma.
Never worked for me, but good luck!
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`fail'.
`throw' raises an exception that can be caught only in IO, so you
can't catch it inside Get. So ... while `fail' is a Monad function,
it isn't implemented here in a way you could use, like it is in Maybe
for example. Nor could it be, I think, which is kind of unfortunate.
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surmised, it has
worked fine.
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code while debugging.
Indeed, for my modest purposes it has been easy enough to generate
code in a conventional, readable format - and honestly it's better
self-documentation than the code I write directly. The mechanical
consistency of generated code makes it especially transparent.
Donn
can turn
ECHO off.
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I think that would be an unusual implementation.)
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() and
pthread_sigmask(); either worked the same for me, but something
like this needs more testing.
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`Text' should be a single type, if the encoding differences aren't
semantically interesting.
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the problem. (Of
course, ByteString.Char8 isn't a good way to deal with wide characters
correctly, I'm just saying that's where I'd like to find the answer,
not in some internal character encoding into which all text data
must be converted.)
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Quoth Bryan O'Sullivan b...@serpentine.com,
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Donn Cave d...@avvanta.com wrote:
...
ByteString will continue to be the obvious choice
for big data loads.
Don't confuse I have big data with I need bytes. If you are working with
bytes, use bytestring. If you
the attraction, you miss some of
the historical lesson on emphasizing elegance and correctness over
practical performance.
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. Not to belabor the point, but to
dismiss all that as the work of morons who weren't as wise as we are,
is the same mistake from the other side of the wall - performance counts.
If you solve the problem by assigning a priority to one or the other,
you aren't solving the problem.
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-16 functions, for French UTF-8.
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sore, don't you think?
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. I'm thinking _all_ data is binary,
and accordingly all inputs are ByteString; conversion to Text will
happen as needed for ... uh, wait, is there a conversion from
ByteString to Text? Well, if not, no doubt that's coming.
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failed to preserve that.
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socket in the child fork, as well as
the parent - if it's inherited by the child, it's held open there,
even if the parent closes it.
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ghc is fundamentally broken - hGetContents, a
very commonly used base library function, can't survive the runtime's
own timer signals. Obviously this doesn't happen for other users,
maybe even on OpenSolaris? I'm sure someone has a clue how this
could happen.
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broken at this point - need
to disable RTS timer signals ( -V0 ) to survive externally generated
thread dispatch events.)
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configure
It shouldn't make any difference on its own, but then you can try
options on the compile, like ghc -threaded, and runtime flags like
Setup +RTS -V0 -RTS I suggest that because it cuts down on
signal interrupts from the runtime, and your symptoms suggest a
signal interrupt.
Donn
. The utility for this varies by platform, but
e.g. strace or ktrace.
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have to comprehend if
I read your code, and it might indeed be easier to read code
that uses a type that, though unique to the code, has names that
reflect its meaning.
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for Control.Monad.Error, is mistaken, where
at the top it says
Example type:
Either String a
... which should be
Either Error a
... ? Though I can't really be sure what the documentation is
trying to say.)
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spawned
by the application. Where would this be documented?
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On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Schilling
nomin...@googlemail.comwrote:
Works fine on 10.6.3. If you run with +RTS -N2, though, you'll get
forking not supported with +RTS -Nn
about whether operations
on that variable are global in effect. I'm guessing this would turn
out clearer in Haskell, along with other things having to do with
variables.
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of foreign origin, with callbacks to Haskell
foreign wrapper functions. Does the wrapper rts_lock() account
for everything, or do threads need some initial setup I need to
account for?
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of the ones I usually hear about, not so sure. If there's
another library that uses OS threads this way, with Haskell
bindings already, that might be something I could steal a
clue from.)
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Kind of a long shot, from what I can make out, but Timber might be
interesting - Haskell-like programming language with a reactive model
that supports time as a sort of event. http://www.timber-lang.org/
Certainly not much like what we're talking about, but I haven't picked
up on the application
Quoth Achim Schneider bars...@web.de,
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for the GHC port to Haiku, but just wondering if this suggests an
obvious course of inquiry to anyone. I assume it's not working as
intended, as from
to anyone. I assume it's not working as
intended, as from the documentation I would rather have guessed that
-thread would be required in this situation.
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Well, this agrees with POSIX. So still I don't see the difference
between $@ and ${1+$@}.
Whatever the standards etc. may say, I believe $@ is reliably the
same as ${1+$@}, for old Bourne shells and new.
Donn
Quoth Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH allb...@ece.cmu.edu,
On Feb 21, 2010, at 20:17 , Jeremy Shaw wrote:
The PS3 does do something though. If we were doing a write *and*
read select on the socket, the read select would wakeup. So, it is
trying to notify us that something has happened, but we are
no way to catch the former without making connections more fragile.
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Quoth Nicolas Martyanoff khae...@gmail.com,
It seems that SIZEOF_VOID_P isn't defined anywhere.
I guess it's immaterial if you aren't going to pursue the port
strategy any farther, but from a cursory look, this would happen
at the point where the configuration log says checking size of void *.
Quoth Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de,
Am Donnerstag 28 Januar 2010 09:14:38 schrieb Ketil Malde:
Daniel Fischer daniel.is.fisc...@web.de writes:
As usual, that only works part of the time. [1,4,15,3,7] is not a
computation, it's a list of numbers. A plain and simple everyday
value.
' or something.
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Quoth Mitar mmi...@gmail.com,
Also is there any workaround possible in Haskell/GHC? For example
making time while openFd is in progress without interrupts?
You might try something like this:
import System.Posix.Signals
...
setSignalMask fullSignalSet
fd - openFd ...
Quoth Bernie Pope florbit...@gmail.com,
2009/12/14 Donn Cave d...@avvanta.com:
[...]
I don't fully understand what you want to do, but perhaps you can use
a StablePtr:
http://www.haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/base/Foreign-StablePtr.html
Yes, thank you very much, that does
the AppData parameter first
- I rewrite the C++ object's FunPtrs every time I update the
application data (freeHaskellFunPtr prior values.)
I'm just not sure where AppData lives while it's referenced in a
FunPtr via partial application, if there might be multiple copies, etc.
thanks!
Donn
Quoth Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com,
...
This is not the sort of resistance I expected :-). Naturally my
unrealistic argument applies to FFI as well; sin, if imported from C,
would have to return in an appropriate structure. Not necessarily IO
(I don't like the idea of a universal sin-bin
and valuable opinions about how various contingencies ought
to be handled, in the end it no doubt it must be up to the programmer
writing the code ... right?
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6.12.0, or is it more likely that my ghc build is defective?
Thanks!
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/boot/home/src/ghc/ghc-6.12.0.20091010/inplace/bin/ghc-stage2 -v -M
-include-pkg-deps -dep-makefile
libraries/bin-package-db/dist-boot/build/.depend-v -H64m -O0 -fasm
-package-conf libraries
that's exactly backwards for minority platforms, where the
compilers that compile themselves tend to be no use whatever.
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have to agree. If you
were a compiler developer for a language that supports like-platform
porting the way GHC does, after trying to keep that working while
developing the language I suspect you might also be tempted to agree.
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