Re: [Haskell-cafe] Does GHC 7.8 make targeting bare metal ARM any easier?

2013-03-20 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello Jeremy, I'd also like to see GHC compiling for ARM bare metal. Honestly speaking I've avoided Raspberry Pi, but rather settled on ARMv7. Side note: BeagleBone is excellent for this as you get all the TI supported tools together with JTAG debugging just for free from TI (including ARM

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [Haskell-beginners] ghc and android

2013-01-02 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, rather than native GHC run on top of Android, I would recommend to have a look at GHC HEAD and attempt to cross-compile to Android. On ghc-cvs@ mailing list I've seen some work done for cross-compiling to QNX/BlackBerry OS 10 so I think Androind should be also doable with some

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell (GHC 7) on ARM

2012-06-11 Thread Karel Gardas
On 06/10/12 03:06 PM, Ben Gamari wrote: Let the list know if you encounter any issues. I'll try to dust off my own development environment once I get back to the states next week to ensure that everything still works. I've been meaning to setup the PandaBoard as a build slave as Karel's has been

Re: [Haskell-cafe] building ghc on arch linux ARM?

2012-04-10 Thread Karel Gardas
On 04/ 9/12 01:03 AM, Francesco Mazzoli wrote: No, it is not possible to build GHC without GHC. Building GHC on ARM is going to be extremely tricky (I'm not sure anyone has ever done it). It's not that tricky at the end. Just install LLVM 3.0 and some OS supplied unregisterised GHC. Grab

Re: [Haskell-cafe] building ghc on arch linux ARM?

2012-04-10 Thread Karel Gardas
On 04/ 9/12 10:35 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: It ships with Debian, along with the full Haskell Platform built for ARM and lots of other libraries. Other than speed, it's fine. Hmmm... I wonder if it will squeeze onto a Raspberry Pi :) It should, if not report a bug since I regularly test on

Re: [Haskell-cafe] building ghc on arch linux ARM?

2012-04-10 Thread Karel Gardas
On 04/10/12 07:03 PM, Joey Hess wrote: BTW, the other problem with Haskell on arm is that AFAIK there is no ghci, and so also no Template Haskell, and so if you're writing Real World utilities that you want to be maximally portable, this means you have to avoid using an increasing number of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] The best way to call Java from Haskell?

2011-10-11 Thread Karel Gardas
On 10/11/11 08:23 AM, Michael Snoyman wrote: So for my use case, I don't care at all about interacting with Java code, I simply want to be able to turn my existing Haskell code into a JAR file. This seems like a much simpler undertaking, but I'm still not aware of any way to get this to happen

[Haskell-cafe] DSL for data definition (e.g. compiling Haskell type defs into Google's protocol buffers type defs)

2011-10-04 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, I'm trying to find out if it's possible to use Haskell data type definition capability to define types and compile defined types into other languages, for example into Google's protocol buffers data definition language. So basically speaking I'm thinking about using Haskell sub-set

Re: [Haskell-cafe] DSL for data definition (e.g. compiling Haskell type defs into Google's protocol buffers type defs)

2011-10-04 Thread Karel Gardas
/o considering TH now). Thanks! Karel [1]: http://book.realworldhaskell.org/read/defining-types-streamlining-functions.html On 10/ 4/11 06:02 PM, Karel Gardas wrote: Hello, I'm trying to find out if it's possible to use Haskell data type definition capability to define types and compile

Re: [Haskell-cafe] DSL for data definition (e.g. compiling Haskell type defs into Google's protocol buffers type defs)

2011-10-04 Thread Karel Gardas
Forgotten note: GHC's Generics as described here: http://haskell.org/ghc/docs/latest/html/libraries/ghc-prim-0.2.0.0/GHC-Generics.html#t:Datatype -- is not yet clear to me, I'm searching for more information about this in the meantime... Karel On 10/ 4/11 08:33 PM, Karel Gardas wrote

[Haskell-cafe] CAL or Frege as a Haskell replacement on JVM?

2011-09-30 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, since there is no Haskell compiler/interpreter for JVM yet (considering LambdaVM outdated), then the question for kind of Haskell replacement on this platform is either CAL[1] or Frege[2]. I'd like to ask here those who have used either of those languages for your experience with

Re: [Haskell-cafe] I for one welcome our new Robotic Overlords

2011-09-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On 09/28/11 12:47 AM, Anthony Cowley wrote: I am not aware of as good a story for Arduino-level development. Atom may be an appropriate foundation for such an effort, but I also hope that we can get GHC ARM support sorted out, and then use platforms like the forthcoming Raspberry Pi as the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] I for one welcome our new Robotic Overlords

2011-09-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On 09/28/11 10:42 AM, Yves Parès wrote: So currently, it's okay to make Haskell code that targets Android smartphones, the Beagleboard, the Raspberry Pi or the OpenPandora as long as you use the development version of GHC? No, it's not that easy. As cross-compiling is not working (yet!) then

Re: [Haskell-cafe] I for one welcome our new Robotic Overlords

2011-09-28 Thread Karel Gardas
Hi, On 09/28/11 10:35 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 28.09.2011, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Karel Gardas: Please note GHCi support is still missing... which implies that Template Haskell does not work. So if you are considering using TH in your library when it is avoidable, remember

Re: [Haskell-cafe] I for one welcome our new Robotic Overlords

2011-09-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On 09/28/11 11:06 AM, Yves Parès wrote: This means not only kernel should be the same (w.r.t. its API/functionality) but also standard libc and other runtime libraries. Yes, this is what I understood. I wasn't talking about portable *binaries*, just about the ARM platforms which were efficient

Re: [Haskell-cafe] I for one welcome our new Robotic Overlords

2011-09-28 Thread Karel Gardas
On 09/28/11 12:41 PM, Yves Parès wrote: Yes, but compilation might be damn slow. I forget about the SheevaPlugs (ARMv5 Kirkwood 1,2 GHz)! They are kind of cheap for what they offer, it's a very nice embedded platform. Yes, or you can even attempt to install some ARMv5 linux on ARMv7 platform.

[Haskell-cafe] GHC/ARM registerised port

2011-07-06 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, Stephen Blackheath, David Terei and me are working together on ARM registerised port of GHC. The port is using LLVM as a code generator and is kind of working already. (GHCi support still missing) If you are curious and would like to try the code, please read last two paragraphs

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC7 build problem

2011-06-11 Thread Karel Gardas
On 06/11/11 09:37 PM, Edward Z. Yang wrote: Yes, the tree was broken for some time between yesterday and today, and you appear to have gotten unlikely. It should have been fixed now, so you should try again. It's probably not fixed yet, since even last night build fails on opensolaris

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Why not Darcs?

2011-04-22 Thread Karel Gardas
On 04/22/11 01:34 AM, Maciej Marcin Piechotka wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 21:29 +0100, Andrew Coppin wrote: I'm sure this must be a VFAQ, but... There seems to be universal agreement that Darcs is a nice idea, but is unsuitable for real projects. Even GHC keeps talking about getting rid of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] GHC 6.8.2 on IA64-Linux platform (Itanium)

2011-01-04 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello Sergei! nice to hear from you! In fact I've been dealing with this issue a little bit and just fixed Adjustor issue myself and then just hour before your email came I discovered your excellent gentoo patches! Kudos to zygoloid for his excellent MBlock.h patch! Also you have saved my

[Haskell-cafe] GHC 6.8.2 on IA64-Linux platform (Itanium)

2011-01-02 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, [sorry for cross-post, I assume Itanium interest is quite rare these days so to grab attention of Itanium/Haskell people I send to both haskell-cafe and ghc list] I'd like to compile more recent than 6.8.2 GHC on itanium-linux system I do have access to, but I'm kind of unlucky with

Re: [Haskell-cafe] [URGENT] DNS problems at haskell.org?

2010-12-18 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, please read: http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/encrv/whats_happened_to_haskellorg_did_someone_forget/c19guw1 Thanks, Karel On 12/17/10 03:19 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 05:01:45PM +0300, Eugene Kirpichovekirpic...@gmail.com wrote a message of

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Manatee - The Haskell/Gtk+ Integrated Live Environment first version release!

2010-11-11 Thread Karel Gardas
On 11/12/10 04:37, Andy Stewart wrote: Hi all, I have write Simple Manual at http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Manatee Enjoy! :) Hello! I'm trying to follow installation steps on OpenSolaris 2009.06, but glib installation fails with: $ cabal install --user glib Resolving dependencies...

[Haskell-cafe] Haskell/JDK/tail-calls etc. (please vote on bug No. 6804517)

2010-09-19 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, from time to time request for Haskell running on top of Java's VM pops on the haskell related mailing list and then usually dies off when someone mentions that JDK does not have proper support for tail-calls. I think haskell community might do something with this fact or at least attempt

[Haskell-cafe] CAL experience

2010-09-09 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, as this is really friendly forum, I'd like to ask to perhaps solve my wonder. From time to time I'm seeing people here recommending Scala as a kind of replacement for non-existent Haskell on Java/JVM platform. My wonder is: why the people here do not recommend CAL, which at least to me,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] iPhone/Android and Haskell [Was: Embedded funcional programming?]

2010-08-10 Thread Karel Gardas
On 08/08/10 01:44, Don Stewart wrote: Only problem is rewriting the GHC runtime in Java... :-) Perhaps I don't understand the problem domain correctly, but IMHO this project was already once done in LambdaVM: http://wiki.brianweb.net/LambdaVM/LambdaVM. Karel

Re: [Haskell-cafe] iPhone/Android and Haskell [Was: Embedded funcional programming?]

2010-08-10 Thread Karel Gardas
On 08/08/10 03:08, Mathew de Detrich wrote: Well the other issue is of course that Android being available on a wide variety of phones, not all of which run ARM (the phone I am about to get for example has a custom built CPU), although I guess one could use a generic ASM branch for mobile

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell on the iPhone

2009-06-23 Thread Karel Gardas
Ryan Trinkle wrote: Rick, I know some work has been done on JVM - iirc, Don Stewart did some work back in the day, www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~pls/thesis/dons-thesis.ps.gz, but I'm not sure how comprehensive it is. Is anyone else interested in JVM-based Haskell targets? Hello, certainly I am.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: Hugs on iPhone

2009-03-24 Thread Karel Gardas
John A. De Goes wrote: Go ahead sell your GPL application. I'll get your code, build the application, and sell it for less than half of what you're selling it for. How exactly will you make your money, then? Ask RedHat how they make money from RHEL while Oracle and CentOS are exact copies

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell Logo Voting has started!

2009-03-17 Thread Karel Gardas
Sorry for newcomer silly question, but where is the voting page located? Thanks, Karel ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe