Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-19 Thread Colin Paul Adams
Ketil == Ketil Malde ke...@malde.org writes: Ketil gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com writes: I.e. war, plague.famine. etc. Ketil No, those are quite outdated by now. The new horsemen of Ketil the programming apocalypse are, of course, IO, Ketil MutableState,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-19 Thread Rick R
I think the capabilities community including E and Coyotos/BitC have extensively addressed this topic. Coyotos is taking the correct approach for trusted voting platform. Since, even if your software is trustworthy, it can't be trusted if the OS on which it runs is suspect. However, we might have

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-19 Thread Luke Palmer
2009/2/19 Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com I think the capabilities community including E and Coyotos/BitC have extensively addressed this topic. Coyotos is taking the correct approach for trusted voting platform. Since, even if your software is trustworthy, it can't be trusted if the OS on

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-19 Thread Gwern Branwen
2009/2/19 Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com: 2009/2/19 Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com I think the capabilities community including E and Coyotos/BitC have extensively addressed this topic. Coyotos is taking the correct approach for trusted voting platform. Since, even if your software is

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-19 Thread Gregg Reynolds
2009/2/19 Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com 2009/2/19 Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com I think the capabilities community including E and Coyotos/BitC have extensively addressed this topic. Coyotos is taking the correct approach for trusted voting platform. Since, even if your software is

[Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello haskell-cafe, http://zohopolls.com/ -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread gregg reynolds
See also www.surveymonkey.com Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello haskell-cafe, http://zohopolls.com/ -- Best regards, Bulat mailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Anton van Straaten
There's also the Condorcet Internet Voting Service: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html gregg reynolds wrote: See also www.surveymonkey.com Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello haskell-cafe, http://zohopolls.com/ ___

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Max Rabkin
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Anton van Straaten an...@appsolutions.com wrote: There's also the Condorcet Internet Voting Service: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html This looks like exactly what we need! Any objections? --Max ___

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Rick R
I'm sure Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold) can provide us with an online voting solution. Their value-add services allows us to set the outcome beforehand, so, in effect, the the voting process will be determinate. Which is certainly of interest to Haskell coders. On Wed, Feb 18,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Don Stewart
This looks very promising! Investigating... anton: There's also the Condorcet Internet Voting Service: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html gregg reynolds wrote: See also www.surveymonkey.com Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello haskell-cafe,

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread gregg reynolds
But what about the side effects? Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold) can provide us with an online voting solution. Their value-add services allows us to set the outcome beforehand, so, in effect, the the voting process will be

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread gregg reynolds
I.e. war, plague.famine. etc. gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com wrote: But what about the side effects? Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold) can provide us with an online voting solution. Their value-add services allows us to set the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Andrew Wagner
Just wrap it in a ReallySafeWePromiseMonad 2009/2/18 gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com I.e. war, plague.famine. etc. gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com wrote: But what about the side effects? Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold)

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread gregg reynolds
Ok, that might protect us against the 7 plagues, so I'm not so worried about locusts. But what about Java, PHP etc. Is the monad sufficient protection against ultra-supernatural evil? Andrew Wagner wagner.and...@gmail.com wrote: Just wrap it in a ReallySafeWePromiseMonad 2009/2/18 gregg

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Andrew Wagner
Sure it will. Don't worry, it uses unsafePerformIO under the hood, so it's pretty much indestructible. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM, gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com wrote: Ok, that might protect us against the 7 plagues, so I'm not so worried about locusts. But what about Java, PHP etc.

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Rick R
I can't comment on any quantitative side effects, but the some intangible side effects include Distrustful Populace and MaliciousDissenters. However, if ghc is run with the -XUnscrupulousPolitics flag, those can be suppressed. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM, gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Andrew Wagner
Help! Help! I'm being suppressed!! On Feb 18, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com wrote: I can't comment on any quantitative side effects, but the some intangible side effects include Distrustful Populace and MaliciousDissenters. However, if ghc is run with the -

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Svein Ove Aas
2009/2/18 Andrew Wagner wagner.and...@gmail.com: Help! Help! I'm being suppressed!! Aha! Now we see the violence inherent in the system. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread gregg reynolds
Perhaps you are a subversive functor, hmm? We have monadic ways of conrolling you, fiend! Tellus who your natural tansformations are, or else! Andrew Wagner wagner.and...@gmail.com wrote: Help! Help! I'm being suppressed!! On Feb 18, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Ketil Malde
Rick R rick.richard...@gmail.com writes: I'm sure Premier Election Solutions (formerly Diebold) can provide us with an online voting solution. You know, while the recent voting scandals have been milked for all they're worth by the open source community, FP has been very quiet about it. Isn't

Re: [Haskell-cafe] How to create an online poll

2009-02-18 Thread Ketil Malde
gregg reynolds d...@mobileink.com writes: I.e. war, plague.famine. etc. No, those are quite outdated by now. The new horsemen of the programming apocalypse are, of course, IO, MutableState, LazyMemoryLeak, and Bottom. -k -- If I haven't seen further, it is by standing in the footprints of