Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-13 Thread mm
Please note that it may be hard to make a print out of a wikibook. You might want to use Docbook/XML or Latex in a darcs repo- sitory instead. On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 03:23:13PM -0500, Matt Revelle wrote: > Sorry, wasn't sure I had clearly expressed that it's possible to have > an "open" book end

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: G'day all. Quoting Kirsten Chevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I suppose I should have clarified that I meant a dead-trees book with > a real publisher, [...] Something more like this, then: http://phptr.com/perens Maybe we should co

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread ajb
G'day all. Quoting Kirsten Chevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I suppose I should have clarified that I meant a dead-trees book with > a real publisher, [...] Something more like this, then: http://phptr.com/perens Maybe we should come up with an outline and a sample chapter or two, then talk

Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, Andrew Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, well I think we can all agree that such a book is a good idea. I suggest we take the discussion to some kind of collaboration tool. It's pretty hard to do just on this mailing list. There are a lot of options, such as finding a forum somew

Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Gour
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 13:42 -0600, Nicolas Frisby wrote: > Two cents: Two (Croatian) lipas, much less than two cents :-( > 3) This would be the first book introducing the nuances of large > systems development in Haskell to Haskell programmers. Explaining well > various monads (e.g. how to use m

Fwd: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Wagner
Ok, well I think we can all agree that such a book is a good idea. I suggest we take the discussion to some kind of collaboration tool. It's pretty hard to do just on this mailing list. There are a lot of options, such as finding a forum somewhere, creating a wiki book somewhere and having a maili

Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Matt Revelle
Sorry, wasn't sure I had clearly expressed that it's possible to have an "open" book end up as a dead-tree book. Either way, I'm interested in helping. On 12/11/06, Kirsten Chevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It matters to me; if I'm going to put work into this, then that's what I want the r

Re: Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Nicolas Frisby
I have taken the liberty to read into the definition of "practical Haskell;" if I'm off target let me know so I can tweak my claims to fit whatever it is I thought I was discussing ;). Two cents: 1) This wouldn't be the first book introducing functional programming to imperative programmers. It

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, Andrew Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I'm not opposed at all to a written final form. I guess I just don't see that and using a wikibook to assist in our collaboration as mutually exclusive. I think the confusion is my fault. I assumed that you (if it was you who originall

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Wagner
Well, I'm not opposed at all to a written final form. I guess I just don't see that and using a wikibook to assist in our collaboration as mutually exclusive. Anyway, I'd love to help in any such project. By the way, I seem to be messing up the threads. What is considered the "correct" way to repl

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, Matt Revelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do you mean by "real publisher"? As long as the quality of the final product is good, does it really matter what publishing company has their name stamped on it? It matters to me; if I'm going to put work into this, then that's what I

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Matt Revelle
What do you mean by "real publisher"? As long as the quality of the final product is good, does it really matter what publishing company has their name stamped on it? I'm not sure about Lulu and distribution, but there's also BookSurge (http://www.booksurge.com) which is owned by Amazon. From t

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, Andrew Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, perhaps if nothing else, we could use a wikibook to collaboratively work on the structure of such a book, and then from that you could publish a "real" book. I don't really know the legal issues, though. I am thinking of several books th

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Wagner
Well, perhaps if nothing else, we could use a wikibook to collaboratively work on the structure of such a book, and then from that you could publish a "real" book. I don't really know the legal issues, though. I am thinking of several books though which have been written and released both as full

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Kirsten Chevalier
On 12/11/06, Matt Revelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A quick search turned up Lulu (http://www.lulu.com/). >From the Lulu site: "Publish and sell easily within minutes. No set-up fees. No minimum order. Keep control of the rights. Set your own price. Each product is printed as it is ordered. No

Re: Re: [Haskell-cafe] Writing "Haskell For Dummies Or At Least For People Who Feel Like Dummies When They See The Word 'Monad'"

2006-12-11 Thread Matt Revelle
A quick search turned up Lulu (http://www.lulu.com/). From the Lulu site: "Publish and sell easily within minutes. No set-up fees. No minimum order. Keep control of the rights. Set your own price. Each product is printed as it is ordered. No excess inventory." Looks like they offer hardcover a