Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-15 Thread Ketil Malde
Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com writes:

 Nice work, I love this one.  :-)

Yes, very nice.  

I do find the lambda and  too fat, but I presume that's the way the
Haskell logo looks. Also, I think the right edges of the thick part of
the batteries should be aligned, so that the little knob on the +
extends further than the flat end of the -.

-k
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-15 Thread Thomas ten Cate
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:24, Ketil Maldeke...@malde.org wrote:
 Luke Palmer lrpal...@gmail.com writes:

 Nice work, I love this one.  :-)

 Yes, very nice.

 I do find the lambda and  too fat, but I presume that's the way the
 Haskell logo looks. Also, I think the right edges of the thick part of
 the batteries should be aligned, so that the little knob on the +
 extends further than the flat end of the -.

For purely aestethic reasons, I agree, and that's how I originally did
it. But then I realized that this does not make sense. Open any
battery compartment and you'll see that the end of the knob on the +
side is aligned with the flat end of the ­– side. Moreover, in this
way the original width of the logo remains exactly the same. I'm not
sure if that really matters, though.

Thomas
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Loup Vaillant
2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:
 Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

I'd sugest a thinner and smaller lambda, or bigger (maybe longer)
batteries. The + tip of the batteries should also be colored in gold.

Loup.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas Davie


On 12 Jun 2009, at 10:27, Loup Vaillant wrote:


2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:

Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png


I'd sugest a thinner and smaller lambda, or bigger (maybe longer)
batteries. The + tip of the batteries should also be colored in gold.


Hmm, I'm not sure I agree -- I think the main strength of the original  
logo is that it's simple, both in terms of all lines being the same  
width, and in terms of having only two colours used.  It means it can  
be adapted to all sorts of different colour sets (as it is on  
Haskell.org).


Perhaps the correct thing to do here is to make a black/gold version  
for the haskell platform?


I do agree with the earlier comment that the font for the +/- needs to  
be more bold, if I'd had a vector version, I would have done that.


Bob
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Tom Lokhorst
There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Thomas Davietom.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12 Jun 2009, at 10:27, Loup Vaillant wrote:

 2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:

 Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

 I'd sugest a thinner and smaller lambda, or bigger (maybe longer)
 batteries. The + tip of the batteries should also be colored in gold.

 Hmm, I'm not sure I agree -- I think the main strength of the original logo
 is that it's simple, both in terms of all lines being the same width, and in
 terms of having only two colours used.  It means it can be adapted to all
 sorts of different colour sets (as it is on Haskell.org).

 Perhaps the correct thing to do here is to make a black/gold version for the
 haskell platform?

 I do agree with the earlier comment that the font for the +/- needs to be
 more bold, if I'd had a vector version, I would have done that.

 Bob
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:
 There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
shadowed.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:
 There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

 I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
 batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
 careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
 shadowed.

 --
 Deniz Dogan


Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on
the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:
 There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

 I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
 batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
 careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
 shadowed.

 --
 Deniz Dogan


 Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on
 the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

 --
 Deniz Dogan


I realise now that I forgot the little head on the plus side of the
battery, so you'll just have to imagine it's there. ;)

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas Davie


On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:15, Deniz Dogan wrote:


2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:

2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:

There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo


I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
shadowed.

--
Deniz Dogan



Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on
the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.


With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new  
version of my attempt:


http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png
http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a  
battery, and saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if  
the logo is ever used in printing.


Bob
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/6/12 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:

 On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:15, Deniz Dogan wrote:

 2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:

 2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:

 There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo

 I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
 batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
 careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
 shadowed.

 --
 Deniz Dogan


 Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on
 the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.

 With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new version
 of my attempt:

 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

 I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a battery, and
 saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if the logo is ever used
 in printing.

 Bob


While I agree with you on the printing issue, I believe that we can
use separate logos for web use (perhaps with gradients, depending on
what others think) and another logo for printing. After all, one can
argue that any colours apart from greyscale ones are non-optimal for
printing as well, but that will not stop anyone from making a
colourful logo.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Thomas ten Cate
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:25, Thomas Davietom.da...@gmail.com wrote:
 With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new version
 of my attempt:

 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

 I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a battery, and
 saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if the logo is ever used
 in printing.

 Bob

I like this last version a lot, except that the ­minus sign should be
the same width and height as the horizontal bar of the plus sign. How
about this?
http://thomas.home.fmf.nl/haskell-platform-logo-bob-mod.svg
It's an Inkscape svg file, easily editable.

Thomas
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-12 Thread Luke Palmer
Nice work, I love this one.  :-)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:15, Deniz Dogan wrote:

  2009/6/12 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:

 2009/6/12 Tom Lokhorst t...@lokhorst.eu:

 There's a SVG version of the logo on the wiki:
 http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Thompson-Wheeler_logo


 I think the biggest problem making the batteries not look like
 batteries is that they don't look round. For that we need some
 careful gradenting of them, to make the bottoms of them look
 shadowed.

 --
 Deniz Dogan


 Attached is a new version of the same idea with a slight gradient on
 the batteries and a slightly thicker font for the signs.


 With various people's ideas taken into account, I've created a new version
 of my attempt:

 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.png
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/logo-1.svg

 I think the yellow/black is easily enough to highlight it as a battery, and
 saves adding gradients etc, that can become awkward if the logo is ever used
 in printing.

 Bob

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[Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-11 Thread Thomas Davie
We had a lot of fun deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't  
agree with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start  
consistently using it.  With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell  
Platform's logo is totally different, and did a quick mock up of a  
version reflecting the current Haskell logo.  It needs someone with  
the original vector graphics to have a play and improve it a little  
bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept you like.


Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme: 
http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, and possibly either access to  
the vector version of our current logo, or someone producing a nice  
version of this.


Bob
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-11 Thread Deniz Dogan
2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:
 We had a lot of fun deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't agree
 with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start consistently
 using it.  With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell Platform's logo is
 totally different, and did a quick mock up of a version reflecting the
 current Haskell logo.  It needs someone with the original vector graphics to
 have a play and improve it a little bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept
 you like.

 Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

 I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, and possibly either access to the
 vector version of our current logo, or someone producing a nice version of
 this.

 Bob

I love this suggestion! Maybe we should make the batteries look more
battery-ish though. I think that especially the minus sign is a bit
unclear, so maybe we could make the signs heavier?

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-11 Thread Eugene Kirpichov
The idea is pretty cool, but at first sight the batteries look like a
graphical glitch. Probably some antialiasing or smoothening is
needed..

2009/6/11 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:
 We had a lot of fun deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't agree
 with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start consistently
 using it.  With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell Platform's logo is
 totally different, and did a quick mock up of a version reflecting the
 current Haskell logo.  It needs someone with the original vector graphics to
 have a play and improve it a little bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept
 you like.

 Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

 I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, and possibly either access to the
 vector version of our current logo, or someone producing a nice version of
 this.

 Bob

 I love this suggestion! Maybe we should make the batteries look more
 battery-ish though. I think that especially the minus sign is a bit
 unclear, so maybe we could make the signs heavier?

 --
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Logo fun

2009-06-11 Thread Thomas ten Cate
I would like to have a go at it. Could you maybe upload the vector
version somewhere?

Thanks,

Thomas

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 13:22, Eugene Kirpichovekirpic...@gmail.com wrote:
 The idea is pretty cool, but at first sight the batteries look like a
 graphical glitch. Probably some antialiasing or smoothening is
 needed..

 2009/6/11 Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/11 Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com:
 We had a lot of fun deciding Haskell's new logo, and while I don't agree
 with the final result, it would be nice if we could now start consistently
 using it.  With that in mind, I realised that the Haskell Platform's logo is
 totally different, and did a quick mock up of a version reflecting the
 current Haskell logo.  It needs someone with the original vector graphics to
 have a play and improve it a little bit, but hopefully you'll se a concept
 you like.

 Here's the logo, continuing on the batteries included theme:
 http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/rpg/tatd2/HaskellBatteries.png

 I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, and possibly either access to the
 vector version of our current logo, or someone producing a nice version of
 this.

 Bob

 I love this suggestion! Maybe we should make the batteries look more
 battery-ish though. I think that especially the minus sign is a bit
 unclear, so maybe we could make the signs heavier?

 --
 Deniz Dogan
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