On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 18:08 +0100, Duncan Coutts wrote:
- Found that on hackage, downloaded and built OK. Lots of scary
warnings about happy, greencard etc, not being found during configure,
but let's go on.
I've complained about these before, although I don't think anyone
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 08:26 +0200, Ketil Malde wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 18:08 +0100, Duncan Coutts wrote:
- Found that on hackage, downloaded and built OK. Lots of scary
warnings about happy, greencard etc, not being found during configure,
but let's go on.
I've complained
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:50:42AM +1000, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote:
[useful stuff]
So, in fact pretty much everything I was looking for exists, in some
form or other!
It's just a bit hard to find at the moment, perhaps because none of
this stuff is regarded as 'core Haskell' by any of the
I was explaining Haskell to a perl/python hacking friend recently and
characterized things thus:
Perl is a horrible language with fantastic libraries.
Haskell is a fantastic language with horrible libraries.
Actually, many of the libraries that exist for Haskell *are*
fantastic, it's just that
On Thursday 05 July 2007, Thomas Conway wrote:
I was explaining Haskell to a perl/python hacking friend recently and
characterized things thus:
Perl is a horrible language with fantastic libraries.
Haskell is a fantastic language with horrible libraries.
Actually, many of the libraries that
On 05/07/07, Jonathan Cast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can't say I agree. I've been learning Python, and have been very un-impressed
so far with its library coverage, which I would rate no better than (in terms
of the POSIX bindings, worse than) Haskell.
It probably depends on your perspective.
Hello Paul,
Thursday, July 5, 2007, 7:00:46 PM, you wrote:
* Gzip compress a data stream
zlib
* Send an email
* Parse an ini file
The one thing off the top of my head that Python had was Base64, but that's
20
MissingH
* Calculate the MD5 checksum of a file
crypto
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Best regards,
On 05/07/07, Bulat Ziganshin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Gzip compress a data stream
zlib
* Send an email
* Parse an ini file
The one thing off the top of my head that Python had was Base64, but that's
MissingH
* Calculate the MD5 checksum of a file
crypto
Thanks.
The need I had for
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 09:41:23AM -0700, Dave Bayer wrote:
There are people who claim with a straight face that they migrated to OS X
primarily to use TextMate
http://www.textmate.com
Presumably you mean http://macromates.com/ ?
Phil
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http://www.kantaka.co.uk/ .oOo. public key:
Hi
It's not a great experience now, but hopefully things are moving in
the right direction.
- Found crypto 3.0.3 on hackage.
- Tried to build, it depends on NewBinary
Cabal-install is intended to remove this problem, so that you can say
i want crypto and it gets everything that requires.
-
On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
It probably depends on your perspective. I've found lots of tasks that
would be a simple library call in Python, but which require me to
write the code myself in Haskell. Examples:
* Calculate the MD5 checksum of a file
How's this, only one line
On 05/07/07, Paul Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The need I had for these is no longer current, but sometime I'll try
an experiment and see how easy it is, on a relatively clean Windows
box with just GHC installed, to grab and use these libraries.
Just for fun I had a go with crypto:
- Found
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 17:07 +0100, Paul Moore wrote:
On 05/07/07, Bulat Ziganshin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Gzip compress a data stream
zlib
* Send an email
* Parse an ini file
The one thing off the top of my head that Python had was Base64, but
that's
MissingH
*
Hello Paul,
Thursday, July 5, 2007, 8:07:34 PM, you wrote:
note: with Python, I'm used to 3rd party modules being available as
Windows installer packages - does the concept of an installable binary
for something like MissingH, which I can just install and use, make
sense for a compiled
On 05/07/07, Dave Bayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How's this, only one line is specific to your problem:
[...]
md5 - doShell md5 -q md5.hs
Doesn't work on my (Windows) PC, where I have no md5 command
available. While I agree in theory with the idea of combining focused
tools, it's a
On 05/07/07, Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- But no simple examples, and the haddoc docs show APIs, but not usage
examples!
Complain to the author.
Yes, that's completely unrelated to library availability issues. I got
off the topic, in all my ranting. Sorry.
Part of the problem
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 17:39 +0100, Paul Moore wrote:
I see you've already responded, and we're in broad agreement. So I
won't labour the point. It's an infrastructure issue rather than a
technical one, and it *will* improve. What will be interesting is how
much the generally lousy Windows
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:08:45PM +0100, Duncan Coutts wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 17:51 +0100, Neil Mitchell wrote:
- Found that on hackage, downloaded and built OK. Lots of scary
warnings about happy, greencard etc, not being found during configure,
but let's go on.
I've
On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:52 AM, Paul Moore wrote:
You're changing the problem from finding a Haskell library (which only
needs to be installed on the development machine at compile time) to
finding a 3rd party utility, which has to be installed at runtime
...
Not a good trade-off.
The
(Bonus points for being able to parse ASN.1 and generate appropriate
Haskell datatypes serialization primitives automatically :-) )
I think there's at least an ASN.1 definition in the crypto library.
Dominic might be able to enlighten us on that.
No bonus points I'm afraid. There is an
p.f.moore:
On 05/07/07, Jonathan Cast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can't say I agree. I've been learning Python, and have been very
un-impressed
so far with its library coverage, which I would rate no better than (in
terms
of the POSIX bindings, worse than) Haskell.
It probably depends on
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:44:13PM +1000, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote:
Binary instances are pretty easy to write. For a simple data type:
instance Binary Exp where
put (IntE i) = do put (0 :: Word8)
put i
put (OpE
Hello Philip,
Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 5:50:42 PM, you wrote:
This doesn't seem to deal with endianness. Am I missing something?
alternative:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library/AltBinary
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library/Streams
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Best regards,
Bulat
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 06:52:08PM +0400, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Hello Philip,
Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 5:50:42 PM, you wrote:
This doesn't seem to deal with endianness. Am I missing something?
alternative:
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Library/AltBinary
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 02:50:42PM +0100, Philip Armstrong wrote:
The Data.Binary comes with one tool to derive these. The DrIFT
preprocessor
also can, as can Stefan O'Rear's SYB deriver.
I just write them by hand, or use the tool that comes with the lib.
More docs here,
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:15:59PM +0400, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Does that mean that the code is unwritten or that the documentation is
unwritten. IAMFI :)
of course all unwritten notes means unfinished docs. library
contains more than 100 functions so it was not easy to document them
all. you
Philip Armstrong wrote:
[1] Which sick application *needs* intermixed endianness?
*Clearly* you've never been to Singapore...
...er, I mean, Ever tried playing with networking protocol stacks?
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Hello Philip,
Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 9:41:27 PM, you wrote:
I'm thinking of the elimination of the boxing of values drawn out of
the input stream where possible, eg if I was writing a stream
processor that folded across the values in the input stream, it would
(presumably) be more
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 07:36:11PM +0100, Andrew Coppin wrote:
Philip Armstrong wrote:
[1] Which sick application *needs* intermixed endianness?
*Clearly* you've never been to Singapore...
...er, I mean, Ever tried playing with networking protocol stacks?
No (thankfully?).
Phil
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phil:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:44:13PM +1000, Donald Bruce Stewart wrote:
Binary instances are pretty easy to write. For a simple data type:
instance Binary Exp where
put (IntE i) = do put (0 :: Word8)
put i
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