Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help with Type Class

2006-03-02 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Mittwoch, 1. März 2006 20:20 schrieben Sie:
> Daniel,
>
> > >   data Array i e = Array i i
> >
> > shouldn't the element type appear here?
>
> Typo: data Array i e = Array i i [e] --mockup with
> list
>
> > Well, the parameter c of CollectionClass has kind (*
> > -> *), Array has kind
> > (* -> * -> *), so it must be
> > instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where ...
>
> ... which (I think) was breaking until -fglasgow-exts.

Well, Haskell98 doesn't allow multiparameter type classes, so extensions are 
required.

>  Once that was fixed, this seems to be the preferred
> way to implement this function.
>
> > But the element type doesn't really belong in the
> > class, wouldn't class Collection c where
> > toList :: c e -> [e]
>
> Hmmm...  For example, implementing Array and UArray as
> subclasses of Collection:
>   class Collection c where
> toList :: c e -> [e]
>   instance Collection (Array i) where
> toList a = ...
>   instance Collection (UArray i) where
> toList a = ...
>
> If Collection is not parameterized on "e", then there
> is no way to make sure that the "e" in Collection
> (UArray i):toList is actually "unboxable".  As with

Ah, I see. I didn't think of that.

> the current IArray implementation, the following works
> and isn't particularly limiting in flexibility:
>   class Collection c e where
> toList :: c e -> [e]
>   instance Collection (Array i) e where
> toList a = ...
>   instance Collection (UArray i) Int where --note the
> Int
> toList a = ...
>
> I understand trying to make Collection as general as
> possible by removing "e", but it look as if doing so
> makes useful subclasses difficult to implement?

Making Collection a single parameter class doesn't increase generality, I 
believe, but I thought that creating a collection was a property of the type 
constructor c alone, so the element type didn't really belong to the class. 
However, the UArray example gives a good reason to include it.
>
> > -- or perhaps, better
> > class Collection c => ArrayLike c i | c -> i where
> > look :: Monad m => i -> c e -> m e
> > be preferable?
>
> ermm...  Need to read up on Functional Dependencies...
>  brb...

Thus we can declare
instance ArrayLike [] Int where
look 0 (x:_) = return x
...
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> - Alson

Cheers,
Daniel

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help with Type Class

2006-03-01 Thread Alson Kemp
Bulat,

BZ>AK>   class CollectionClass c e where
BZ>this works with -fglasgow-exts :
Yup.  Figured that out shortly after I e-mailed... 
Thank you for providing the extra detail, though. 
-fglasgow-exts fixed the problem, but I didn't have a
good idea why the problem went away.


Daniel,

> >   data Array i e = Array i i
> shouldn't the element type appear here? 
Typo: data Array i e = Array i i [e] --mockup with
list

> Well, the parameter c of CollectionClass has kind (*
> -> *), Array has kind 
> (* -> * -> *), so it must be
> instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where ...
... which (I think) was breaking until -fglasgow-exts.
 Once that was fixed, this seems to be the preferred
way to implement this function.

> But the element type doesn't really belong in the
> class, wouldn't class Collection c where
> toList :: c e -> [e]
Hmmm...  For example, implementing Array and UArray as
subclasses of Collection:
  class Collection c where
toList :: c e -> [e]
  instance Collection (Array i) where
toList a = ...
  instance Collection (UArray i) where
toList a = ...

If Collection is not parameterized on "e", then there
is no way to make sure that the "e" in Collection
(UArray i):toList is actually "unboxable".  As with
the current IArray implementation, the following works
and isn't particularly limiting in flexibility:
  class Collection c e where
toList :: c e -> [e]
  instance Collection (Array i) e where
toList a = ...
  instance Collection (UArray i) Int where --note the
Int
toList a = ...

I understand trying to make Collection as general as
possible by removing "e", but it look as if doing so
makes useful subclasses difficult to implement?  

> -- or perhaps, better
> class Collection c => ArrayLike c i | c -> i where
> look :: Monad m => i -> c e -> m e
> be preferable? 
ermm...  Need to read up on Functional Dependencies...
 brb...

Thanks for the help.

- Alson
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help with Type Class

2006-03-01 Thread Daniel Fischer
Am Mittwoch, 1. März 2006 01:26 schrieb Alson Kemp:
>   Although the discussion about Array refactoring died
> down quickly on the Haskell' mailing list, I've been
> noodling on refactoring the various Collections in
> Haskell.  In doing so, I've bumped into a problem with
> type classes that I can't resolve.  The issue is as
> follows:
>
>   I'm designing a Collections class heirarchy that is
> a blend between that of Java and of Haskell. The
> problem is that, whereas in OOP it is easy to do so,
> Haskell class mechanism seems to make it difficult to
> add *new* member variable to subclasses.
>
>   Simple goal: create a top-level Collection with an
> *indexed* Array subclass (and various other
> subclasses).  The problem I'm running into is
> Collection has no need of an "index" variable and I
> can't seem to figure out how to add an "index" to
> Array when subclassing from Collection  Mock up:
>
> --
>   class CollectionClass c e where
> -- every Collection supports toList...
> toList :: c e -> [e]
>
>   class (CollectionClass a e)=> ArrayClass a e where
> ...
>
>   data Array i e = Array i i
   ^^
shouldn't the element type appear here? 
>
>   instance CollectionClass Array e where
> -- Since Array is a Collection
> -- toList :: c e -> [e]
> -- but with an Array the type would be
> -- toList :: a i e -> [e]
> toList = ...
>
Well, the parameter c of CollectionClass has kind (* -> *), Array has kind 
(* -> * -> *), so it must be

instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where ...

But the element type doesn't really belong in the class, wouldn't 

class Collection c where
toList :: c e -> [e]

instance Collection [] where
toList = id

instance Collection (Array i) where
  -- or rather instance Ix i => Collection (Array i),
  -- if we use Data.Array
toList = elems -- or whatever we'd use for another implementation

class Collection (a i) => ArrayC a i where
 item :: i -> a i e -> Maybe e

-- or perhaps, better
class Collection c => ArrayLike c i | c -> i where
look :: Monad m => i -> c e -> m e


be preferable? 
> -- 
>
>  I think that the problem goes away if:
>class CollectionClass c x e where ...
>  with "x" used an index for Array or a key for Map or
> () for Set, but it doesn't seem clean to scatter
> member variables in the parent class in case the
> subclass requires them...
>
>  Another possible solution that I couldn't get to
> work would be to use (Array i) as the type for "c" in

I can't imagine why that wouldn't work (apart from the typo above).
It compiles, and if we have a more appropriate Array type, we'd get a decent 
toList-function.

> "Collection c":
>  instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where
> toList = ... -- (Array i) e -> [e] ?
>
>   This seems clean because it says the Collection
> holds "e"s and is organized by an (Array i). 
> Similarly, Set would be a Collection of "e"s organized
> by Set and Map would be a Collection of "e"s organized
> by (Map k).

>  Undoubtedly, I've missspoken some crucial aspect of
> the type/kind/class/instance magical incantation. 
> Help!
>
>  - Alson

HTH,
Daniel
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indented six feet downward and covered with dirt."
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Help with Type Class

2006-03-01 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Alson,

Wednesday, March 1, 2006, 3:26:44 AM, you wrote:

AK>   class CollectionClass c e where

this works with -fglasgow-exts :

class CollectionClass c e where
  toList :: c e -> [e]

data Array i e = Array i i

instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where
  toList a = []


btw, see chapter 7.1.1 in the
http://cvs.haskell.org/Hugs/pages/hugsman/exts.html
  

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[Haskell-cafe] Help with Type Class

2006-02-28 Thread Alson Kemp
  Although the discussion about Array refactoring died
down quickly on the Haskell' mailing list, I've been
noodling on refactoring the various Collections in
Haskell.  In doing so, I've bumped into a problem with
type classes that I can't resolve.  The issue is as
follows:

  I'm designing a Collections class heirarchy that is
a blend between that of Java and of Haskell. The
problem is that, whereas in OOP it is easy to do so,
Haskell class mechanism seems to make it difficult to
add *new* member variable to subclasses.

  Simple goal: create a top-level Collection with an
*indexed* Array subclass (and various other
subclasses).  The problem I'm running into is
Collection has no need of an "index" variable and I
can't seem to figure out how to add an "index" to
Array when subclassing from Collection  Mock up:

--
  class CollectionClass c e where
-- every Collection supports toList...
toList :: c e -> [e]

  class (CollectionClass a e)=> ArrayClass a e where
...

  data Array i e = Array i i 

  instance CollectionClass Array e where
-- Since Array is a Collection
-- toList :: c e -> [e]
-- but with an Array the type would be
-- toList :: a i e -> [e]
toList = ...

-- 

  I think that the problem goes away if:
class CollectionClass c x e where ...
  with "x" used an index for Array or a key for Map or
() for Set, but it doesn't seem clean to scatter
member variables in the parent class in case the
subclass requires them...

  Another possible solution that I couldn't get to
work would be to use (Array i) as the type for "c" in
"Collection c":
  instance CollectionClass (Array i) e where
toList = ... -- (Array i) e -> [e] ?

  This seems clean because it says the Collection
holds "e"s and is organized by an (Array i). 
Similarly, Set would be a Collection of "e"s organized
by Set and Map would be a Collection of "e"s organized
by (Map k).

  Undoubtedly, I've missspoken some crucial aspect of
the type/kind/class/instance magical incantation. 
Help!

  - Alson
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