Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-30 Thread Mikhail Glushenkov
Hi Mark, On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:35 AM, Jens > Petersen  wrote: > >> A new early (beta?) release based on ghc-7.4.2 would be a good thing IMHO. > > It is almost as much work to do sub-in another ghc (as the all the ghc > provided packages

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-30 Thread George Colpitts
my two cents, fwiw: I agree with Mark that the "planned release schedule works pretty well" but then again I'm on the Mac so not familiar with Linux issues. Do we have a percentage breakdown of users of the platform on Mac, Windows, Linux and within Linux the various distros? On the Mac my bigge

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-30 Thread Mark Lentczner
(sorry if this is a double post - my earlier one seems to have only resulted in a dozen mailer-daemon messages to me): On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:35 AM, Jens Petersen wrote: > A new early (beta?) release based on ghc-7.4.2 would be a good thing IMHO. > It is almost as much work to do sub-in anot

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-27 Thread Jens Petersen
On Jun 19, 2012 1:35 PM, "Mark Lentczner" wrote: > tl;dr: > Squeezing a release out in the next six weeks would accomplish little. A new early (beta?) release based on ghc-7.4.2 would be a good thing IMHO. > Our mid-November 2012.4.0.0 actually looks pretty good given the lead time that the dist

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-18 Thread Mark Lentczner
*tl;dr:* - Squeezing a release out in the next six weeks would accomplish little. - Our mid-November 2012.4.0.0 actually looks pretty good given the lead time that the distros need for their frist 2013 release. On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Jens Petersen wrote: > How about a tight s

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-15 Thread Jens Petersen
On Jun 15, 2012 6:11 PM, "Iain Lane" wrote: > I'm indeed not on this list so please CC me in any replies that you want > me to see. (Any chance of you joining? ;) :) > > > For example looking at the coming Fedora 18 development cycle [2] the > > > Alpha freeze is currently 2012-08-14 and Beta fr

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-15 Thread Iain Lane
Hi there, Sorry for taking a while to reply. I was away and then forgot. :P I'm indeed not on this list so please CC me in any replies that you want me to see. On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:11:24AM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > […] > > For example looking at the coming Fedora 18 development cycl

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-10 Thread PÁLI Gábor János
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > In general, I can't judge from these projects web sites Sure, I have just added it as a comment to show that there may not be strict release dates for some distributions. > what we need more > is specific dates that the HP packagers would

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-10 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM, PÁLI Gábor János wrote: > I am not sure that you will like the way releases are currently > implemented for FreeBSD :-) > I suppose I'm agnostic: If FreeBSD doesn't have a stable calendar release schedule, then we can only consider the next releases they have sc

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-10 Thread PÁLI Gábor János
Hi Mark, On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > I think we're all in agreement that sync'ing against the calendars of other > distros that have similar calendar based releases is a good thing. I agree absolutely, however, I am not sure that you will like the way releases are c

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-10 Thread Mark Lentczner
I think we're all in agreement that sync'ing against the calendars of other distros that have similar calendar based releases is a good thing. What we need next, to see how to do this, is the for the people who build the HP packages for various releases to chime in with what they need when. Pointe

RE: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-10 Thread Chris Dornan
> I hope there will be more discussion on the Platform schedule too. :-) OK, I have been thinking further about this and I am even more inclined to think it would be an excellent idea for the Haskell Platform to lash it's release cycle to the mast of the Fedora & Ununtu release cycles, for the fol

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-08 Thread Jens Petersen
Thanks to Joachim and Chris for their follow-up comments. (Unfortunately the original thread disappeared in my gmail!! :-( so I have to start a new thread to continue this conversation.) I thought of one thing since yesterday that would in a way at least bring some Linux parity though it doesn't

RE: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-07 Thread Chris Dornan
Jens Petersen: > I think at least Ubuntu and Fedora are basically on time-based release schedules. ... > [I]t would be advantageous for the Haskell community using Linux systems if > the Platform schedule could be made better for Linux users I see no need for the ' using Linux systems' qualific

Re: release schedule and Linux distros

2012-06-07 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, fullquote for Iain’s benefit, who takes care for Haskell in Ubuntu but may not be on this mailing list. Am Donnerstag, den 07.06.2012, 15:55 +0900 schrieb Jens Petersen: > For a while I have been feeling that Linux distros seem to be at a bit > of a disadvantage compared to Windows and MacOS