Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Andrea Sassanelli
Well, I in no ways am an expert, but AFAIK the system is PHP/SQL based, therefore I don't think it should be very hard to modify the upload/download system to include PDF or files of any other form for that matter. On 11/11/05, Till Mossakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also made nice

[Haskell] CFP: European Conference on Logics in AI [JELIA'06]

2005-11-11 Thread Michael Fisher
+---+ | * CALL FOR PAPERS * | | ** JELIA'06** | | --- | | 10th European

[Haskell] ICALP 2006 -- Call For Workshop Proposals

2005-11-11 Thread Convegno ICALP '06
* Apologies for multiple copies * 33rd International Colloquium on Automata, Languages and Programming ICALP 2006 S. Servolo, Venice - Italy Call for Affiliated Workshops

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Neil Mitchell
Is there some trick to getting it to build ? I've never used the Makefile, but it should work as is! One way to build it, the way I use is: $ cd /root/projects/haskell/yhc/src/compiler98 $ ghc --make -cpp Main -o yhc Thanks Neil ___ Haskell mailing

Re: [Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Udo Stenzel
Not that I have any emotional attachment to MoinMoin, which the hawiki is based on, but... Ashley Yakeley wrote: I would much prefer to use a MediaWiki than the existing hawiki. Particularly valuable are the elimination of RunTogetherWordLinks and the separation of article and talk spaces.

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Neil Mitchell
Just so that people don't get the wrong idea ... - Yhc is a working title and it's still not totally decided what it's relation to nhc98 is. It may be merged back into nhc98, it may replace nhc98 or it may end up as an entirely seperate project from it. - It's very much work in progress, indeed

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:24:49PM +, Neil Mitchell wrote: - It's very much work in progress, indeed the source code in the darcs repository as of today is currently somewhat disfunctional as is in between changes (hence why the Makefile is broken). It may be a good idea to have yhc-stable

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 12:27 schrieb Simon Peyton-Jones: [...] - Work is afoot to move GHC's source-code repository to Darcs, to make it easier for people to contribute patches Is it planned to split the current big monolithic repository into multiple repositories in conjunction

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Thomas Shackell
Yes that's a good idea, I would have tidied things up somewhat if I'd known it was going to be announced on the mailing list :-) Cheers Tom Tomasz Zielonka wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:24:49PM +, Neil Mitchell wrote: - It's very much work in progress, indeed the source code in

Re: [Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 19:57 schrieb Ben Moseley: Simon Peyton-Jones simonpj at microsoft.com writes: ... And avoid getting screwed up by malicious folk? Probably the biggest example of this type of thing working well on a large scale is Wikipedia. I'm not intimately familiar

Re: [Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 11. November 2005 12:22 schrieb Udo Stenzel: Seperation of article and discussion is a cultural, not a technical problem. One thing I always disliked about the Haskell Wiki is that you often have a short article and then a lot of user comments. What people searching for

[Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Victor Blomqvist
Simon Peyton-Jones simonpj at microsoft.com writes: The important thing is that these mechanisms should work without any central intervention. These are just two suggestions. Perhaps there are other such mechanisms that we could put in place. Ideas? One thing I have missed ever since I

RE: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Simon Marlow
On 11 November 2005 12:57, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 12:27 schrieb Simon Peyton-Jones: [...] - Work is afoot to move GHC's source-code repository to Darcs, to make it easier for people to contribute patches Is it planned to split the current big

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Duncan Coutts
On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 15:49 +0100, Victor Blomqvist wrote: Simon Peyton-Jones simonpj at microsoft.com writes: The important thing is that these mechanisms should work without any central intervention. These are just two suggestions. Perhaps there are other such mechanisms that we could

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:12:40PM +, Duncan Coutts wrote: I would tend to disagree. I think the combination of the mailing lists, a wiki and the IRC channel cover most of our communication needs. Personally I prefer to use mailing lists, but they have one disadvantage - if you don't set up

Re[2]: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Simon, Friday, November 11, 2005, 5:51:55 PM, you wrote: * The GHC user manual [currently generated using DocBook] I think it should continue to be written in DocBook. (It should switch to DocBook XML if it's still using SGML DocBook.) XML documents are type-safe in contrast

Re: [Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 03:19:27PM +, Duncan Coutts wrote: I cannot imagine that a couple of people is sufficient to review all recent changes and therefore I don't think they do it this way. There are some typical articles where screwing up happens often, so these articles might

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 04:52:30PM +0100, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: IMO, the best solution are newsgroups. What I dislike with web-based communication (webmail, webforums) is that webbrowsing is not as flexible as using a specialized software and that you are not free in choosing your

[Haskell] Making the haskell.org website more open with a wiki? was Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Shae Matijs Erisson
Wolfgang Jeltsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Freitag, 11. November 2005 12:22 schrieb Udo Stenzel: Seperation of article and discussion is a cultural, not a technical problem. One thing I always disliked about the Haskell Wiki is that you often have a short article and then a lot of

RE: Re[2]: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Simon Marlow
On 11 November 2005 15:48, Bulat Ziganshin wrote: Friday, November 11, 2005, 5:51:55 PM, you wrote: * The GHC user manual [currently generated using DocBook] I think it should continue to be written in DocBook. (It should switch to DocBook XML if it's still using SGML DocBook.) XML

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Freitag, 11. November 2005 17:00 schrieben Sie: [...] Maybe it's time to register comp.lang.haskell? You could also setup your own newsserver news.haskell.org and create whatever groups you like there. This way you could create several Haskell groups, corresponding to the mailing lists

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Gour
Simon Marlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We already use DocBook XML, and I'm relatively pleased with it, except for the fact that it's far from easy to set up a working DocBook toolchain on your system unless your OS of choice is up to date and has a well-maintained set of DocBook packages. I

[Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Ashley Yakeley
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Udo Stenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MoinMoin supports arbitrarily named links, like so: [anything goes]. But people don't use them. It's the elimination of the other kind that's valuable. If you set the appropriate check mark in your user preferences,

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread John Velman
I agree with Gour. I found txt2tags as a result of a discussion on the GTK2HS list. It is simple to use, readable as is, or easily transformable to a variety of targets. Also, it is consistent with bird-track literate Haskell, so I can run my .lhs documents through txt2tags and get html, latex,

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
Tomasz Zielonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip) Maybe it's time to register comp.lang.haskell? (snip) At the least, I find it conspicuous by its absence, given how many other languages I see in comp.lang.* that I think of as less important, and how busy groups like comp.lang.lisp are. In lieu

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Gour
Wolfgang Jeltsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The advantage of newsgroups over mailing lists is that newsgroups are designed for discussions among several people and therefore newsgroup software supports this kind of usage very well while mailing lists are actually a hack. I do not follow

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Creighton Hogg
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Gour wrote: Wolfgang Jeltsch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The advantage of newsgroups over mailing lists is that newsgroups are designed for discussions among several people and therefore newsgroup software supports this kind of usage very well while mailing lists

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Gour
Creighton Hogg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, you don't have to be registered to post on it, which is actually rather nice. Hmmm, iirc, gmane.org wanted me to authorize in order to be able to post though I do not know what is the present policy. Also, I think the archiving

[Haskell] CfP LDTA 2006

2005-11-11 Thread Eric Van Wyk
Call for Papers for Sixth Workshop on Language Descriptions, Tools and Applications LDTA 2006 A satellite event of ETAPS 2006 in Cooperation with ACM SIGPLAN Saturday,

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 05:00:52PM +0100, Tomasz Zielonka wrote: How about an integrated newsgroup+mailinglist+forum. If we had a two-way newsgroup+mailinglist integration, people could use it also as a forum, for example through gmail.google.com. Of course I meant groups.google.com Best

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Mark T.B. Carroll
Tomasz Zielonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (snip) How about an integrated newsgroup+mailinglist+forum. If we had a two-way newsgroup+mailinglist integration, people could use it also as a forum, for example through gmail.google.com. But I don't use fora, so I probably talk nonsense. That would

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread David Frech
On 11/11/05, Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just so that people don't get the wrong idea ... - It's just an experiment of mine with the backend that turns out to have sparked some interest. It seems to compile most of Haskell 98 (at least it did when it last worked ;-)) but it's in no

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Thomas Davie
On 11 Nov 2005, at 23:09, David Frech wrote: On 11/11/05, Neil Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just so that people don't get the wrong idea ... - It's just an experiment of mine with the backend that turns out to have sparked some interest. It seems to compile most of Haskell 98 (at

Re: [Haskell] [ANNOUNCE] yhc - York Haskell Compiler

2005-11-11 Thread Thomas Davie
Sorry, I could have done with answering a bit more there... On 11 Nov 2005, at 23:09, David Frech wrote: I'm curious. Can you be more specific about what you thought wanted/needed changing in nhc98's VM and/or compiler? Basically, nhc98's backend had several problems, most notably not being

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Benjamin Franksen
On Friday 11 November 2005 13:56, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 12:27 schrieb Simon Peyton-Jones: [...] * The GHC user manual [currently generated using DocBook] I think it should continue to be written in DocBook. (It should switch to DocBook XML if it's

Re: [Haskell] Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Benjamin Franksen
On Saturday 12 November 2005 02:30, Benjamin Franksen wrote: On Friday 11 November 2005 13:56, Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Am Donnerstag, 10. November 2005 12:27 schrieb Simon Peyton-Jones: [...] * The GHC user manual [currently generated using DocBook] I think it should continue to

[Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Ashley Yakeley
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Till Mossakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also made nice experiences with MediaWiki/WikiPedia. However, I think while you can include images on MediaWiki pages, you cannot include documents (like ps or pdf) - these have to be external links. Of course,

[ ghc-Bugs-1353390 ] unknown exception

2005-11-11 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1353390, was opened at 2005-11-10 19:20 Message generated for change (Settings changed) made by simonmar You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=108032aid=1353390group_id=8032 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment

RE: class aliases

2005-11-11 Thread Simon Peyton-Jones
John | If I were to implement my class alias proposal for ghc in an acceptably | clean way, would it be accepted? There appeared to be enough interest to | support at least experimentation with it and I would have no issues with | it being dropped in the future if it turned out to not be useful.

[Haskell-cafe] throwDyn typing fun

2005-11-11 Thread Einar Karttunen
Hello It seems that the type of throwDyn and throwDynTo are dangerously close. ThrowDyn works in with any of the arguments of throwDynTo, which can cause evil situations. throwDyn :: Typeable exception = exception - b Which means e.g. throwDyn someThreadId SomeException will work when you

Re: [Haskell-cafe] throwDyn typing fun

2005-11-11 Thread Tomasz Zielonka
On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 01:20:05PM +0200, Einar Karttunen wrote: It seems that the type of throwDyn and throwDynTo are dangerously close. ThrowDyn works in with any of the arguments of throwDynTo, which can cause evil situations. throwDyn :: Typeable exception = exception - b Which means

[Haskell-cafe] How to use a wiki to annotate GHC Docs? was Re: [Haskell] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Shae Matijs Erisson
Malcolm Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... And avoid getting screwed up by malicious folk? ... but I believe there are a number of people who regularly review all the Recent Changes and undertake to 'undo' any malicious/inaccurate modifications. I suspect this would

[Haskell-cafe] Re: Making Haskell more open

2005-11-11 Thread Nils Anders Danielsson
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Tomasz Zielonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Moved to cafe.] How about an integrated newsgroup+mailinglist+forum. If we had a two-way newsgroup+mailinglist integration, people could use it also as a forum, for example through gmail.google.com. But I don't use fora, so I

[Haskell-cafe] `typeof' is not a (visible) method of class `Typeable' ?

2005-11-11 Thread WANG Meng
Hi All, While I was trying to declare Language.Haskell.TH.Exp as an instance of Typeable, ghci 6.4 yields this error. It does not allow me to define an instance of typeof. Does anybody know what should be the right way of doing this? Thanks. -W-M- @ @ | \_/

Re: [Haskell-cafe] `typeof' is not a (visible) method of class `Typeable' ?

2005-11-11 Thread Benjamin Franksen
On Friday 11 November 2005 18:22, WANG Meng wrote: Hi All, While I was trying to declare Language.Haskell.TH.Exp as an instance of Typeable, ghci 6.4 yields this error. It does not allow me to define an instance of typeof. Does anybody know what should be the right way of doing this? Thanks.