Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Wojciech Kruszewski
In fact this is possible with their current environment: http://wojciech.oxos.pl/post/277669886/save-on-herokus-custom-ssl-addons On Dec 9, 7:58 pm, Wojciech Kruszewski wojci...@oxos.pl wrote: This is theoretically possible with their architecture, but they are currently reviewing how easy it

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Carl Fyffe
Thank you for writing this up! On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Wojciech Kruszewski wojci...@oxos.pl wrote: In fact this is possible with their current environment: http://wojciech.oxos.pl/post/277669886/save-on-herokus-custom-ssl-addons On Dec 9, 7:58 pm, Wojciech Kruszewski

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Doug Petkanics
If I am following your approach correctly, then I believe it would be possible for multiple Heroku users to cooperate on a single custom SSL addon using the following steps. 1. Alice and Bob agree to cooperate and split the costs between one another outside of the scope of Heroku's billing. 2.

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Morten Bagai
Hey, I don't think this would work. Not in a very meaningful way, at least. Keep in mind that you can still only host one cert on a single IP. So, even with a wildcard cert, all apps getting SSL through that instance would have to run on *.ssldomain.com. /Morten On Dec 10, 1:44 pm, Doug

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Morten Bagai
Yeah, I didn't catch the multi-domain part. Theoretically it might be possible. I don't think we have ever seen a multi-domain cert in the wild at Heroku. Also, the solution we have in place now isn't designed for this in a couple of ways: 1) You would have to redeploy the cert every time it

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Wojciech Kruszewski
On Dec 10, 11:06 pm, Morten Bagai mor...@heroku.com wrote: Yeah, I didn't catch the multi-domain part. Well, wildcard is still interesting for me. I could replace *.heroku.com with my own wildcard as a piggyback. I'd prefer to serve sites admin/user panels of my clients from my own domain.

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread Kelly Heikkila
Maybe I'm missing something and I'm not an SSL expert, but couldn't Heroku allow customers to purchase more than one IP for an SSL instance? Then they could apply multiple domains without a multi- domain cert and without constantly having to keep applying/managing a single cert when it's

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-10 Thread David Dollar
The core of the problem is that Amazon only allows one IP per EC2 instance, which is why we have to spin up a dedicated instance for SSL at all. If Amazon ever starts allowing that, we'd be able to re-evaluate our options for providing SSL. Until then, this is a pretty decent workaround. I

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-09 Thread Betelgeuse
For dedicated SSL you only need to reserve port 443. You can still use other ports for all other stuff as long as you accept the instance has multiple purposes. I would think that most customers would welcome the price reduction caused by using the dedicated IP instance for for example processing

If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Wojciech Kruszewski
Hi, I've read your explanation about why you charge $100/mo for custom SSL (http://docs.heroku.com/ssl#faq). You need exclusive IP, Amazon assigns only one IP for an instance, so you need to reserve full instance just to use one SSL cert - seems fair. Ok, but if you reserve full EC2 instance

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Husain Al-Mohssen
Hi, In general I am very happy with Heroku and their rates but I think Wojciech has a reasonable point. Yours, Husain On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Wojciech Kruszewski wojci...@oxos.plwrote: Hi, I've read your explanation about why you charge $100/mo for custom SSL

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Oren Teich
They are totally independent. The way our architecture works, dynos run on machines called railguns, which are specially set up for the job. We have to setup a special (and yes, mostly idle) server just to handle the SSL requests. It's not possible with the product we have today to run dynos on

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Wojciech Kruszewski
Thanks Oren, this makes sense. So can that one mostly idle server handle SSL requests for multiple applications? I mean I tried Heroku and was very happy with the experience - looks like it needs little to no maintenance on my part. I'd wish to host a handful smaller web apps, each with 1-3

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Oren Teich
I don't know if that's possible or not it's probably a function of the SSL protocol and our routing mesh, but it's beyond my technical knowledge. Best bet is to drop support@ a line, and see what they say. They'll be able to dig into the details for you. Oren On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:42 PM,

Re: If you reserve full instance for custom SSL - why don't I get more dynos?

2009-12-08 Thread Chris Hanks
Wojciech, if you ask support about that and get some good news, would you report back? I'm curious about this too. Thanks! Chris On Dec 8, 2:05 pm, Oren Teich o...@heroku.com wrote: I don't know if that's possible or not it's probably a function of the SSL protocol and our routing mesh, but