RE: [HG] The Listmaster Speaks: the new group is active
I joined with my standard bigpond account. It verified my account and I am now a member. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orest Lechnowsky Sent: Tuesday, 30 September 2008 8:26 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] The Listmaster Speaks: the new group is active I don't know much about google groups and the need for a google account. I do know that on yahoogroups, although they strongly encourage you to have a yahoo account, it is not necessary. I would assume the same is true of google, though I might well be wrong. In yahoogroups, you can join without an account by responding to an invitation sent by the listmaster. You might also be able to join without an account by sending an automated email to the list - though I have not tried this. Orest Simon Wascher wrote: Hello, I will not set up an google account. If this is required to read/post to this listin the future I will opt out. Hope that is not the case. Sorry, Simon Wascher - Vienna, Austria /
RE: [HG] Harpe de Gourde
My mother used to grow ornamental gourds.They were like different shaped pumpkins and had very hard skin and very watery insides like vegetable marrows or zucchini that just dried up and left the hard shell and a few seeds maybe rattling inside. The larger ones you could carefully cut the top off and clean out and they would make good water containers. You really only see them used in African instruments these days but it depends where you are I guess. Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sylvain gagnon mini moteur 2000 inc Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2008 8:54 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Harpe de Gourde harpe de gourde is in french gourde is a containerto put water when you are in desert , or the recipient the armed forces guys put water inside ,, it can look coconut shell,,, or alluminium bottle with green cloth cover all around ..or ? gourde is a water container .. bye sylvain
OT RE: [HG] Harpe de Gourde
I have a snake charmers flute made from a gourd and technically the sitar uses gourds for the big resonators. A Hurdy gurdy made with a gourd might be a bit delicate I imagine. Mind you it is possible to laquer a gourd into a pretty tough shell. Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Ruckert Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2008 9:52 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Harpe de Gourde The Australian group of virtuoso musicians, Totally Gourdgeous, plays on all manner of instruments made from gourds. I seem to recall a gurdy for sale a couple of years ago made from one. Greg
RE: [HG] Decimal comma
Sorry but Australia is the same. It is so much easier to push the switch down. Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Whyte The UK has to be different The only country where switches are Up for Off Graham
RE: [HG] Hurdy Gurdies in museums information
IN a city near me there is a music store and the owner is a collector. Displayed on shelves and hanging on the wall are the most amazing instruments including a lovely hurdy gurdy that looks to me to be in playable condition. I asked if any of the instruments got played and was told. No you don't do anything to collectable instruments because that ruins the value as collectables. That means you don't repair them or play them. Seems like you barely dust them. I feel sad for all those lovely instruments condemned to sit silent for eternity. It is like Toy Story 2. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Billy Horne Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2008 5:12 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Hurdy Gurdies in museums information Thanks everyone that replied. It seems that museums world wide have a similar situation, conserve but no laying on of hands! You must have been lucky or blessed Mike to have had that opportunity.It is sad that instruments that are created to be played and heard, are condemend to be gazed at and left silent. Billy Horne
RE: [HG] HG Joke
I heard about this guy who had an appointment in a rough part of town. He was in the middle of his appointment when he realised he had left the car unlocked and his hurdy gurdy in plain view on the back seat. When he got back to the car sure enough the worst had happened. There were two hurdy gurdys on the back seat of the car. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arle Lommel Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 8:57 PM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] HG Joke Or the perennial chestnut: A gentleman is someone who can play his hurdy-gurdy. but doesn't. :-)
RE: [HG] A passionate newbie full of questions
Well actually there was one lady early this year who is building a HG to go busking at a renaissance faire. I don't think she has raised her voice again after being blasted into the renaissance era or at least the fifteenth century by the anti kit sentiment. As for entertainment. You can still learn historical stuff by being entertained. There is no historical reason why there could not have been a hurdy gurdy or two in America in the time of the French and Indian wars. In fact there is one documented as you state. Does this mean that only one person (using French costume) in the entire continent is allowed to use a hurdy gurdy in reenactments? Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh ! , I guess you are involved in entertainement more than in historical research . For the FI period ( seven years war in America for our europeans friends ) there is but a single documented presence of a HG , in Louisbourg , Acadia . ( today Nova Scotia ) . The previous one is related in the 1632 Relations des Jésuites. There are harpsichord kits available , so there are no technical reason for the absence of HG kits , but a huge économical and social one . nobody yet bought and assembled a harpsichord kit to go busking at a Ren Fair .
RE: [HG] Adjustable bridge
I guess it all depends on the design. I have seen some interesting things done with adjustable bridges to make them work and minimise the dampening effect. The main difficulty I would see is that on a luthier built instrument there are going to be variances that mean what works for one instrument may not work exactly the same on another. But if someone can overcome that then I can see them being popular. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Wascher Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2008 8:42 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Adjustable bridge Hello, Am 15.05.2008 um 00:00 schrieb Marsbar: The problem will always be the change in the sound transmission through the bridge. The moment you add a couple of metal dohickey's to the bridge you are going to dampen it. I use the adjustable bridge that Wolfgang Weichselbaumer offers on my 1999 Alto for about half a year now. I did not experience any adititional damping that is more than the damping by the paper I used before. This minimal damping cant weight out the perfection in pressure balance I can have since. The sound got better in my oppinion. As Matthias Loibner mentioned before the system also allows the bridge to be more relaxed via minimized bending of the bridge due to the systems joints. Simon
RE: [HG] Happy birthday to me
So Colin you weren't young and handsome when you were 38 but you are still young now?!?!? H Are we talking alien abduction here g. Fi Ob HG - Who thinks aliens probably invented the Hurdy Gurdy, but in a good way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin Sent: Sunday, 4 May 2008 2:40 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Happy birthday to me I remember when I was 38 (a long time ago now) but I think the rest isn't applicable :) Have a great day. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Pieter Lauwers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 3:31 PM Subject: RE: [HG] Happy birthday to me You're still a kid!!! I remember the time I was 38: Young and handsome, sadly I'm no longer young!! Happy birthday, Pieter
RE: [HG] Still there?
I'm here. I have nothing to say that is gurdy related as I have been too busy with other stuff this week to play with mine. I am also unable to go to the gurdy fest so I am sulking in my corner. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Currier Sent: Friday, 4 April 2008 2:23 PM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: [HG] Still there? Heads up, hg list. I haven't seen a post in some time. Are you still there or are the ISP's playing spam games again?
RE: [HG] So now what?
Prayer might be the best option vbg. I am in a small rural town. As far as I know I have the only hurdy gurdy here but I could be wrong. I don't know everyone in the district. I just heard there is a hurdy gurdy group that meets in Brisbane which is about 2 and 1/2 hours drive away so I might follow that up when I get time. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Trotter Get some live help, if you can...if not shall we pray for you?
RE: [HG] Can someone identify this instrument?
Looks like a really bad drawing of a hurdy gurdy. Don't know if you could build one like that. The artist seems to have lost the strings and keybox. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Nogy Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 7:27 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: [HG] Can someone identify this instrument? http://www.threeleos.com/enlum1.jpg Guy number 2 in the lower half. Is this a strange lute thing, or is it a bad depiction of a gurdy? That is either a crank or a cranked neck. Any guesses? Cause if it is some general shape of gurdy, just without details depicted, I think I have found what I am looking for in size and shape and soundholes and such. Thanks Chris
[HG] So now what?
My beautiful new hurdy gurdy arrived today from England. It has 2 chanterelles in D, one drone in D and a Trompette in G. It is a lute back with two rows of keys the bottom with 12 and the top with 9. Now I just have to learn to set it up and play it. The maker sent cotton and spare strings and I have some violin rosin. I will probably use the pirastro as the others are cheap cakes that came with chinese made violins unless there is a better option. Fi
OT Lost and found and mittenwald was RE: Re[6]: [HG] purpose of my new project.
I followed the link to the hurdygurdywiki site below. There was a link for lost and found hurdy gurdys. It was empty. Isn't that so nice. I have an old clapped out Mittenwald violin and a german lute guitar from somewhere there as well. I was thinking how nicely they would go with my English hurdy gurdy. Then I realised I can't play it all at once. When my children were young I used to think it would be good to have three sets of arms like the Indian Goddess. I now perceive another use for them g. Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Wascher Sent: Monday, 11 February 2008 4:11 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: Re[6]: [HG] purpose of my new project. Hello, Am 10.02.2008 um 17:51 schrieb Reymen Marc: Kreuzner in Mittenwald its Kreuzer :-) S. --- have a look at: http://hurdygurdywiki.wiki-site.com http://drehleierwiki.wiki-site.com --- my site: http://simonwascher.info
Changing styles RE: [HG] purpose of my new project.
Musical tastes change of course. One of the most obvious ones that just about everyone would know is the Disney movie Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Someday my Prince will Come??!?!?!? Not with that tremolo honey. Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Redpath Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 9:20 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] purpose of my new project. This is the 21st Century we all have ears (well most ) of this time, how can anyone possibly say how it sounded? Mediaeval musicians took what they could get and (probably) made the best of it using the ears that they had. Probably European. Some people may choose to regress their choice of instruments and change the name slightly to make it sound like something authentic but it is just what we here would call fire wood. Both Strad. and Amatti were superb professional makers and I believe that they chose how to make the instruments sound THEN. Early recordings. There are NO recordings of early celtic music IT DOES NOT EXIST. The early English, Scots and so on folk music throughout Europe is on cylinder. It sounds dreadful. Not the music the sound. If you take the sound and digitally correct it so it is even and no clicks etc. it still sounds all wrong to 21st Century ears. JON
RE: [HG] Ren (Wren) Fairy bird
Australia doesn't have the population to support the quantity of faires and cons that the US does. There is a Medieval Faire held just north of Brisbane that I went to last year. They had medieval battle re-enactments, sword fighting lessons, archery and blacksmithing. The horses in the lists were quite amazing. Lots of stalls selling costumes and medieval knickknacks and weapons. There was an enclave of medieval turks and bellydancers. Some Vikings and lots of medieval costumes. The most authentic costume in my opinion was a Tudor family that were just perfect top to toe but they stood out something shocking. Dancing displays included varieties of belly dance and eastern dancing. Didn't see any Morris dancers but could have missed them. Had a Gregorian choir in a church on site with a lute player providing background music for tours in between performances. They had a main auditorium for music. Some baroque recorder and mandolin players, celtic dancers, one group with a hurdy gurdy which is the only real one I have seen close up. The owner left it sitting on the seat in front of me while she went off and socialised. Does the commandment about coveting apply to unattended hurdy gurdies because if so I am going to burn in hell forever? Visitors included holiday families through to Goths (of the modern variety). Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jocelyn Demuth Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2008 10:00 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] Ren (Wren) Fairy bird Yes, it means renaissance faire and , it's popular in America. They're sort of generally focused around the historical period of 1500-1600 in Europe - England in particular although you can find elves some vampires and with the popularity of Pirates of the Caribbean, alot of pirates now as well as any American Renaissance faire. Some of them are medieval themed but you still wind up with an assortment of elves, vampires and pirates. There's also a smattering of bellydancers as well at any of these faires. It's kind of a big dress up party with folk music thrown in. Having no real castles of our own here in the USA, we're all a bit gaa-gaa over knights, castles, chivalry as well as the renaissance. You don't have to dress up to go - you do have to dress up to perform - the idea is that the faire goers feel like they are visting a different age. The Hurdy-gurdy really does add to the back in time atmosphere here even if no one is really clear what time we're trying to re-enact.
RE: [HG] accordion tuning
Geeze can’t keep a secret on the net. Lucky you to have a builder in the family. What style is he building? I suppose you already know how to crank a tractor ;-] Fi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Hutchins Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2008 3:45 AM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: [HG] accordion tuning Good God, Fi, is that you? This is Kathy Hutchins. John's building me a hurdy gurdy. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 2, 2008, at 9:23 AM, Marsbar Hi everyone. My name is Fi and I am an Instrumentaholic. I am hopefully in the process of acquiring a hurdy gurdy so I joined this list so I can find out information on the dos and don’ts and the how to s and the how nots etc. Fi
hurdy gurdy kits was RE: [HG] accordion tuning
Nice kit. The price is good too considering the price of the finished product. Is the trompette the dog thingy? (ok I'm a newby and totally ignorant) So what sort of playing do you want to do? Do you play out or are you a closet instrumentalist? Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Hutchins It's a kit from a shop in Minnesota, Musicmaker's: http://www.harpkit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=hurdy It's a flatback, two drones and two chanters. No trompette. 12 keys. Walnut with a sitka spruce soundboard. So it's lacking features that many people find desirable, but I think for the kind of playing I want to do, it'll be fine. And it was in our price range, which is, after all, the important thing. Kathy Hutchins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hurdy gurdy kits was RE: [HG] accordion tuning
I know a lot a people who have bought various kits and made the instruments. Many of them have been happy with the results even though the instrument often requires a fair bit of tweaking. What is it about the hurdy gurdy that makes it particularly unsuited to kit form. Is it the lack of the trompette or the complex mechanicals? Fi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 3 February 2008 1:41 PM To: hg@hurdygurdy.com Subject: Re: hurdy gurdy kits was RE: [HG] accordion tuning Being polite is nice , But Telling the truth saves money , The MusicMaker Kit is just way too expensive for what it really is . This is as polite as I can be , on that subject . Morris tunes with out the chien will be like drum without drumsticks . Henry
