[hibernate-dev] Signing of Maven artifacts

2022-04-25 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
Hi, Would it be possible to sign the release artifacts and upload the signature files (.asc) to Maven? The Hibernate ORM 6.0 release page [1] does mention a way to verify signed Maven artifacts, but there are no signed artifacts to begin with so I can't verify anything either. [1] https://hiberna

[hibernate-dev] Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-05-30 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
Hi there, We're very excited about the Hibernate ORM 6.0 release! Our developers have looked at upgrading our copy from 5.6 to 6.0, but they consider 6.0 "not yet stable enough" (no idea if that's justified) and have had some issues with the upgrade guide. They estimate the upgrade to take about t

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-05-31 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 09:35 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > There is not a hard date.  Not in the immediate future is the best > I can say at the moment. Thanks for your reply, Steve. It would be nice if 5.6 continues to receive bugfixes for some time. That would allow us to further validate our re

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-05-31 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
Hi Steve, I have a feeling that there is a slight misunderstanding here, for which I'm sorry. Please allow me to clarify some things. On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 07:31 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > The reality is that we are a very small team - it is simply not > feasible to maintain that many branches

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-06-01 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
Hi Steve, Thanks for the kind reply, I'm glad we could clear things up a bit. I felt quite bad about the miscommunication and have been blaming myself for it. On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 11:48 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Before I was lucky enough to get paid for working on Hibernate, I > worked on i

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-06-02 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
On Wed, 2022-06-01 at 08:21 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > You can find our support policy here if you are interested: > > https://www.ciphermail.com/documentation/faq/support-policy.html > > That seems very similar to the one I wrote for Hibernate.  I do see > now that ours is probably a bit un

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-06-07 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 07:37 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > But in the end, given a large enough userbase, every > > (documented or undocumented) behavior of an API is being relied > > upon by someone, meaning that every change will break someone's > > workflow: https://xkcd.com/1172/ > > Extrapo

[hibernate-dev] Re: Hibernate ORM 5: end-of-life and upgrading

2022-06-07 Thread Imre Jonk via hibernate-dev
On Thu, 2022-06-02 at 11:52 -0500, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Let me know what y'all think - > https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/wiki/Huge-Project,-Small-Team Looks really good! Like I said in my previous email, it is good to see the public/private API distinction documented. The 'qualifier'