[Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Christian Bauer
JBoss finalized some naming conventions for release packages, and both Hibernate and NHibernate packages should follow these conventions. The benefit of this is stability and the ability to compare packages. As far as I can see, nothing much changes for Hibernate except that some of the

Re: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Christian Bauer
On Feb 7, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: Yes, I plan to start using these conventions starting with 3.2. I'm not a big fan of all minor releases needing to append '.ga' (i.e. 3.1.3.ga.jar). I really wish there was a way to define ordering amongst qualifiers. AFAIK these

Re: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
I'm not a big fan of all minor releases needing to append '.ga' (i.e. 3.1.3.ga.jar). I really wish there was a way to define ordering amongst qualifiers. AFAIK these conventions are for package names and not necessarily library names? it's the version branded into the application -

RE: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
This has nothing to do with the actual jar names. The version in the jar name is a poor convention as it propagates the version to users unnecessarily, and is not verifiable via a signed manifest. The jars checked into the repository should not have any explicit version information in the name. I

RE: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Steve Ebersole
Yes, I plan to start using these conventions starting with 3.2. I'm not a big fan of all minor releases needing to append '.ga' (i.e. 3.1.3.ga.jar). I really wish there was a way to define ordering amongst qualifiers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
so where do you want the name applied ? in the eclipse plugins it make sense for the jar's since that is the part being used to identify it + the plugin.xml/MANIFEST.MF osgi version part. /max This has nothing to do with the actual jar names. The version in the jar name is a poor convention

[Hibernate] Re: its done

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:35:58 +0100, Thomas Heute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried and fixed the templates. Thanks ! care to share if/what issues there were ? I don't see the commits ? /max On Monday 06 February 2006 10.09, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: It's done - tools head now has

RE: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
Any place the version is actually used. This is the manifest headers (these should also be spelled out and standardized including the osgi conventions for projects that need to comply with these headers), the repository component-info.xml, and the project build files. Really only the project build

RE: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
I'm a little concerned that this will lead to unnecessary coupling of client and server versions of antlr then. How often does an antlr exception as a cause show up in practise as an exception seen by an external client? -Original Message- From: Max Andersen Sent: Monday, February 06,

Re: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:24:38 +0100, Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a little concerned that this will lead to unnecessary coupling of client and server versions of antlr then. How often does an antlr exception as a cause show up in practise as an exception seen by an external

RE: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
The problem is the source of the cause not providing a stable api for the exception, not the inclusion of the cause itself. The solution is to fix the antlr exceptions to specify the serialVersionUID to avoid trivial changes showing up as version incompatibilities. You can always work around this

RE: [Hibernate] Release naming conventions

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
I added a Practices and Jar Manifest Headers section to the JBossProductVersioning page to discuss issues such as how nightly builds could be versioned. The headers section still needs to be completed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
fixing the antlr exception svuid won't help us if the client is using an older version, right ? calling printStackTrace() on every exception sounds overkill for me...and will turn basic logging into something very verbose. I understand the issue, but don't find the suggested solutions any good

RE: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
fixing the antlr exception svuid won't help us if the client is using an older version, right ? It will if the serialVersionUID is set to the implicit value from the previous version. This can be done if the version is still serializable compatible. calling printStackTrace() on every

Re: [Hibernate] Do antlr exception leak to users?

2006-02-07 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:55:52 +0100, Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fixing the antlr exception svuid won't help us if the client is using an older version, right ? It will if the serialVersionUID is set to the implicit value from the previous version. This can be done if the version

[Hibernate] default HEM key generator

2006-02-07 Thread Bill Burke
Can we have a default HEM key generator that will not force an insert when using FlushMode.NEVER? Like Table or Sequence or some other hibernate specific generator? I've been working through some example applications for my book and am finding that I have to modify pre-existing entity code

RE: [Hibernate] default HEM key generator

2006-02-07 Thread Gavin King
Steve and Emmanuel are already working on this problem. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:15 PM To: Hibernate development Subject: [Hibernate] default HEM key generator Can we have a default

[Hibernate] Is Proxol actually needed in the dist?

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
Is the Proxool library actually used? It uses the old bsd style license that has a silly requirement regarding all advertising acknowledgment: http://proxool.sourceforge.net/licence.html 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following

RE: [Hibernate] Is Proxol actually needed in the dist?

2006-02-07 Thread Gavin King
Yep, some users are using it. But it is completely optional and non-default, so I'm not sure if that license requirement would be triggered. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:20 PM To:

RE: [Hibernate] Is Proxol actually needed in the dist?

2006-02-07 Thread Gavin King
What I mean is that no advertised feature of Hibernate depends upon Proxool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gavin King Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:25 PM To: Scott M Stark; Hibernate development Subject: RE: [Hibernate] Is Proxol

[Hibernate] jacc-1_0-fr.jar source

2006-02-07 Thread Scott M Stark
Where did the jacc-1_0-fr.jar come from? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the