Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to remember what you had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys to deal with. Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get along without custom binding every peripheral in their possession to control a game, I think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind anything extra than the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say screw it and just play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see who can have the most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you set a button on your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by default, you can just bind to that function instead of the button itself. I bound my mouse4 to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. A whole lot easier than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll tell ya that much =) If you can't get it working by now, get someone on your computer who can get it working, or it would probably be best to just leave it as it is. -- leming At 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you wrote: in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind shift to whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 4th button is useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons let alone 3 whist shooting - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan Taylor To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCoders Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) type bind mouse3 and see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5 - Original Message - From: Cortex Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AM To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I don't get these messages at the console... - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan Taylor To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCoders Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) umm yea u can. assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and when u click your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see it print in the up left corner mouse3 unbound mouse4 unbound mouse5 unbound etc (I have 5 buttons) -Lakario - Original Message - From: Cortex Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) OK ;) So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't any forth button field in Logitech Mouseware :( Thanks all :) - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]leming To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I presume that the logitech mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have the optical explorer from ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to be able to use side buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOT be set to perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software, in the screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is a drop down list, and there should be something like Middle Button or Button 3 or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it as mouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set for nothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double click (NOT mouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As everyone has said before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle button CAN NOT BE SET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. You must put the setting on to None, Middle Button or another similar option. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a true middle button, it would only be common sense that applications within that OS would also see it as the middle button (other than the drivers controlling the mouse itself, of course). -- leming At 15:47 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote: As long as MouseWare supports 4-button mice, this should work. --- Cortex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks However I'll reexplain my problem, because I'm not sure everybody has understood :( My english is not very good :( So, I want to use the third (wheel button) and the forth (side) button in HL. In mouseWare (lastest version), I can set a function to the two buttons. If I set them Third button, HL works fine with them but they have the same action ;( So, I wanted to set a Forth button to the side button, so as to have two different actions for the two buttons. Is this possible ? I hope you'll understand ;) If not, I'll re-reexplain :) Cortex HL Albator coder mapper http://www.hlalbator.fr.st/www.hlalbator.fr.st
[hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1314287113 go check that out... i find it extremely lame. I remember a post a while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on ebay so i thought i'd see if the trend is still there... well only one guy. What i find worse is he is selling on a cd update patches to something not owned by him. This is what he is listed as selling Counter-strike full version installation 1.1 Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current) Half-life update to 1.1.0.7 Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current) Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game) Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in Counterstrike, w/ any picture you have on your computer) OGC CHEAT(current version) OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC CHEAT!) Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.
Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
hahaha thats not all after checking out his other auctions this is what i got and also note that i will put a comment beside each. dangte (2) Dec-21-01 19:29:21 PST 1310656341 S Complaint : Tried to sell pirated software...Did not complete the transaction... MY NOTE - hmmm well he didn't even respond to this regista4eva (19) Dec-21-01 16:52:49 PST 1298022634 S Complaint : Is a child and shouldnt be on ebay.Charged 5 dollars for ship. when it costed 1! Response by gr_lam - Got angry when they found out i was 16. Should have looked at shipping cost b4 MY NOTE - well considering you have to be at least 18 to use ebay he made his first mistake admitting he was 16 baby1228 (67) Dec-19-01 17:17:54 PST 1310720779 B Complaint : "BUY IT NOW' TURN AROUND SAID HIS PARENTS NOT ALLOW HIM TO BUY REFUSE TO PAY Response by gr_lam - ParentsLetMeBuyItNow, So I did but later on my parents said no. WHYisITmyFAULT? MY NOTE - its your fault mate cause you for one saying you will buy it then later decline with a lame reason. This is not on also lets not stop there. here are other things he is selling 1314286826 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 20:52:27 $3.50 Counterstrike w/ Cheats Hacks and More! OGC No Bids Yet 1314286976 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 20:53:43 $3.50 Counter-Strike plus Cheats Hacks Maps More No Bids Yet 1314287113 Dec-25-01 Dec-28-01 20:54:40 $3.50 CS counter-strike counterstrike PLUS CHEATS! No Bids Yet 1314287309 Dec-25-01 Dec-28-01 20:56:09 $3.50 Counter-strike updates + Cheats Hacks Maps ! No Bids Yet 1314296110 Dec-25-01 Jan-01-02 22:28:25 $3.50 Ti-86 Ti86 Graphing Calculator New w/ PC LINK No Bids Yet i myself am guessing the Ti-86 calculator is stolen from school :) but he is a serious lamer and all i was looking for was 40k minatures. :( just goes to show i suppose hehe lamers are everywhere. - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor To: HLCoders Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b wow, he should die... - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1314287113 go check that out... i find it extremely lame. I remember a post a while back on phl on how someone was selling hacks on ebay so i thought i'd see if the trend is still there... well only one guy. What i find worse is he is selling on a cd update patches to something not owned by him. This is what he is listed as selling Counter-strike full version installation 1.1 Counter-strike updates to 1.3 (current) Half-life update to 1.1.0.7 Half-life update to 1.1.0.8(current) Maps you get(very popular): AWP_MAP, AWP_MAP2, SCOUT_MAP, HE_TENNIS Wally texture editor (edit textures in the game) Half-life logo creater (spray paint a picture on the walls in Counterstrike, w/ any picture you have on your computer) OGC CHEAT(current version) OGC PUNKBUSTER HACK(bypasses punkbuster servers even if you have OGC CHEAT!) Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com stars-6.gif Description: GIF image
Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
I don't need anyone on my computer :) More seriously, it works ;) I use nowmy 4 mouse buttons in HL :) Thanks to all helped me :) CortexHL Albator coder mapperwww.hlalbator.fr.st - Original Message - From: leming To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to remember what you had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys to deal with. Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get along without custom binding every peripheral in their possession to control a game, I think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind anything extra than the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say screw it and just play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see who can have the most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you set a button on your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by default, you can just bind to that function instead of the button itself. I bound my mouse4 to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. A whole lot easier than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll tell ya that much =)If you can't get it working by now, get someone on your computer who can get it working, or it would probably be best to just leave it as it is.--lemingAt 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you wrote:in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind shift to whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 4th button is useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons let alone 3 whist shooting- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan TaylorTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCodersSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)type bind mouse3 and see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5- Original Message -From: CortexSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AMTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)I don't get these messages at the console...- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan TaylorTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCodersSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)umm yea u can. assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and when u click your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see it print in the up left corner "mouse3 unbound" "mouse4 unbound" "mouse5 unbound" etc (I have 5 buttons)-Lakario- Original Message -From: CortexSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)OK ;)So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't any"forth button" field in Logitech Mouseware :(Thanks all :)- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]lemingTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)I presume that the logitech mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have theoptical explorer from ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to beable to use side buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOTbe set to perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software,in the screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is adrop down list, and there should be something like "Middle Button" or"Button 3" or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it asmouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set fornothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double click (NOTmouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As everyone hassaid before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle button CAN NOT BESET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. Youmust put the setting on to "None", "Middle Button" or another similaroption. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a true middle button, it wouldonly be common sense that applications within that OS would also see it asthe middle button (other than the drivers controlling the mouse itself, ofcourse).--lemingAt 15:47 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote: As long as MouseWare supports 4-button mice, this should work. --- Cortex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks However I'll reexplain my problem, because I'm not sure everybody has understood :( My english is not very good :( So, I want to use the
Re: [hlcoders] Linux problem
To get the Rho-Bot to work with MingW32, I needed to link to the stdc++ library. Maybe you need to include an -lstdc++ to the mp.dll portion of the make file. -Scott alfred wrote: Looks like you are using the ios c++ classes, but the linux .so (dll) can't find that object within its libraries. Perhaps you need to include another header file? Dave R. Meyers wrote: Ok, here is a copy of a log I received from Sparken how is helping me get the rho-bot code back into OZ under Linux. He is using the egcs version recommended by valve (egcs 1.1.2?). Now the code compiles and runs just fine without the bot code, but once the bot code is added, then run this happens. Now from my understanding, it compiles just fine, with no big problems. But as I was not even able to get it this far by myself, I am not even sure where to start offering help. Anyone seen this before, and we searched through all the code, and there is no reference to __vt_3ios that we can find??? Dave Here is a copy of the entire log file: -- Host_Init Added packfile /beta/hl_2/valve/pak0.pak (985 files) Added packfile /beta/hl_2/oz/pak0.pak (73 files) Protocol version 45 Exe version 4.1.0.8 Exe build: 15:09:28 Sep 17 2001 (1789) WON Auth Server couldn't exec language.cfg Server logging data to file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224133.log L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file started (file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224133.log) (game oz) (version 45/4.1.0.8/1789) L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file closed Server logging data to file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224134.log L 12/24/2001 - 14:57:52: Log file started (file /beta/hl_2/oz/logs/L1224134.log) (game oz) (version 45/4.1.0.8/1789) LoadLibrary failed on /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so: /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so: undefined symbol: __vt_3ios Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so! Error Host_Error: Couldn't get DLL API from /beta/hl_2/oz/dlls/mp_i386.so! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders -- Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few. Thanks. -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1314287113 Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games.
Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)
Happy New Year - Original Message - From: Cortex Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I don't need anyone on my computer :) More seriously, it works ;) I use nowmy 4 mouse buttons in HL :) Thanks to all helped me :) CortexHL Albator coder mapperwww.hlalbator.fr.st - Original Message - From: leming To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update) I'm with tom in that it can get more confusing trying to remember what you had a button (or key) bound to when you have more keys to deal with. Considering that hundreds, probably thousands of people get along without custom binding every peripheral in their possession to control a game, I think I'm safe in saying that you don't need to bind anything extra than the defaults. If it isn't working at all for you, say screw it and just play the game. Its about the game, not a contest to see who can have the most insane binds. Also to add onto what Tom said, if you set a button on your mouse to a function that isn't used in the game by default, you can just bind to that function instead of the button itself. I bound my mouse4 to F12, and it works as my comm button for roger wilco. A whole lot easier than trying to hit F12 while playing the game, I'll tell ya that much =)If you can't get it working by now, get someone on your computer who can get it working, or it would probably be best to just leave it as it is.--lemingAt 15:31 12/25/2001 +, you wrote:in the logitech setup, bind mouse4 to shift, and then in hl bind shift to whatever u want mouse 4 to be and it should work. IMHO the 4th button is useless though cos its hard to concentrate on 4 buttons let alone 3 whist shooting- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan TaylorTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCodersSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 2:26 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)type bind mouse3 and see what shows up in console, also try bind mouse5- Original Message -From: CortexSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 9:10 AMTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)I don't get these messages at the console...- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nathan TaylorTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]HLCodersSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 1:50 PMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)umm yea u can. assuming that they are unbound start hl in -dev mode and when u click your mouse buttons other than mouse1 and mouse2 you will see it print in the up left corner "mouse3 unbound" "mouse4 unbound" "mouse5 unbound" etc (I have 5 buttons)-Lakario- Original Message -From: CortexSent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:48 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)OK ;)So, I can't use 4 buttons in HL but 3 :( There isn't any"forth button" field in Logitech Mouseware :(Thanks all :)- Original Message -From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]lemingTo: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 4:51 AMSubject: Re: [hlcoders] Logitech mouse third button in HL (update)I presume that the logitech mice work similarly to the MS mice. I have theoptical explorer from ms, and in order for me (and you most likely) to beable to use side buttons and the middle wheel button, those buttons CAN NOTbe set to perform another function in windows. In your mouseware software,in the screen where you set the function for the buttons, I believe it is adrop down list, and there should be something like "Middle Button" or"Button 3" or similar. You need that selected for HL to recognize it asmouse3. This is so for my MS mouse, as my back side button is set fornothing, thus it is mouse4, but my front side button is a double click (NOTmouse5) and will not behave or be recognized as mouse5. As everyone hassaid before me, but possibly not as clearly, the middle button CAN NOT BESET TO PASTE OR ANY OTHER FUNCTION PROVIDED BY THE MOUSEWARE SOFTWARE. Youmust put the setting on to "None", "Middle Button" or another similaroption. Once the actual OS is seeing it as a true middle button, it wouldonly be common sense that applications within that OS would also see it asthe middle button (other than the drivers controlling the mouse itself, ofcourse).--lemingAt 15:47 12/23/2001 -0800, you wrote: As long as MouseWare supports 4-button mice, this should work. --- Cortex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks However I'll reexplain my problem, because I'm not sure everybody has understood :( My english is not very good :( So, I want to use the third (wheel button) and the forth (side)
Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
EBay isn't a publically funded website. I think what you were trying to say was, don't sell it on a public website. - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor To: HLCoders Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b Yikes, he's gunna get eaten... Lesson number one in piracy: don't do it;lesson number 2: if you must do it don't do it on a publicly funded website... - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then one for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current sellings items so you might wanna nab him on all of them. He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as well but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can to decrease the lamer population. - Original Message - From: Ken Birdwell To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few. Thanks. -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1314287113 Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
yea, exactly :) - Original Message - From: Miguel Aleman Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b EBay isn't a publically funded website. I think what you were trying to say was, don't sell it on a public website. - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor To: HLCoders Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b Yikes, he's gunna get eaten... Lesson number one in piracy: don't do it;lesson number 2: if you must do it don't do it on a publicly funded website... - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b no problem mr birdwell. This guy has more then one for sale though. He has like 6 auctions if you check his current sellings items so you might wanna nab him on all of them. He's sold piratedf versions of wolfenstein as well but i suppose thats for others to look into :). Just doing what i can to decrease the lamer population. - Original Message - From: Ken Birdwell To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b Yes, selling* copyrighted material w/o permission is illegal.Sierra goes through and has ebay remove these items when they find them, but it looks like they missed a few. Thanks. -Original Message-From: Christopher Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:26 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1314287113 Now is it just me or is selling valve owned programs and update patches not only wrong but illegal? i'd really like to see this dork punished. So feel free to spam him with emails detailing how big a dork he is.. and for doing the biggest injustice of it all trying to extend the already huge cheating problem in online games. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-software.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrighteditems.html ebay is very good about this sort of thing.
RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
I wonder if it'd be possible to report this kind of stuff to the po-lice. From: Ken Birdwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:39:54 -0800 http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-software.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-software.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrighteditems.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-copyrighteditems.html ebay is very good about this sort of thing. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
If you're Adobe, feel free to invoke the DMCA and call in the FBI, if you're anyone else, no, because copyright infringement is civil law isn't it?? ;) (little sarcasm there). I don't know honestly think that the police are concerned with copyright infringement, however, it would appear from other bidders that this little schmuck is actually comitting mail fraud (not making good on things he's supposedly selling -- My parents wouldn't let me buy/sell it). I'm not sure what position that the US courts have taken on this kind of stuff (i.e. is it really mail fraud - I'm pretty sure), and the other thing with fraud that I can vouch for from personal experience is that no one really goes into small cases (got ripped buying a Magic card a number of years ago in a newsgroup auction), no one cared. Better to report the little puke to EBay (selling someone else's software illegally has to be against their rules), and let them handle it. It also seems he's under age (no contract in Candian law is enforceable against a minor, and I believe that the US would have a similar consideration), so EBay may be interested to learn that. We could always make a number of complaints to them, and let them handle it. ;) I wonder if it'd be possible to report this kind of stuff to the po- lice. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
