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Anderson <twjander...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 10 November 2017 9:48 AM > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Proposal > > Valve is not interested in this idea. They already deleted the > quickplay registration system and every time

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ww.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=TF+Team > From: hlds <hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> on behalf of Tim Anderson > <twjander...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 9:48 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [

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://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=TF+Team From: hlds <hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com> on behalf of Tim Anderson <twjander...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, 10 November 2017 9:48 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hl

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Valve is not interested in this idea. They already deleted the quickplay registration system and every time this is mentioned, people complain the fee would be unfair to small servers. The only viable solution that has been suggested is to have some community contracts. They could make the

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ng, but > there isn’t. I’m not sure if there will ever be. Until then, playing on > Casual will be a subpar experience. > > > > > > > > *From: *Josh Russell <joshuaglennruss...@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Thursday, November 9, 2017 4:53 PM > > *To: *Half-Life ded

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I feel this helps convey what is wrong with the current systems as of right now. I find it a chore to activate contracts and complete them, mainly because there is nothing to stop a cheater from ruining the match, or joining to find that almost everyone on your team (and sometimes the enemy

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, November 9, 2017 4:53 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Proposal I'm not actually really sure why "easy contract farming" is such a big deal for this community server population issue.  I don't do it, but contract farmers (and friendlies) not paying

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lly off-topic. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Chris Dunphy <cdunph...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did I say you don’t have the right to respond? You certainly do. >>>>> Respond if you want,

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t; wrote: >>> >>>> Did I say you don’t have the right to respond? You certainly do. >>>> Respond if you want, but do it literally anywhere else but here. Do not >>>> clog up the mailing list with this nonsense. This list is not for airing >>>> your

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p the mailing list with this nonsense. This list is not for airing >>>> your dirty laundry, which I can assure you absolutely nobody on this list >>>> cares about. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Take it elsewhere.* >>>> >

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l.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Did I say you don’t have the right to respond? You certainly do. >>>> Respond if you want, but do it literally anywhere else but here. Do not >>>> clog up the mailing list with this nonsense. This list is not for airing >

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>>> mailing list with this nonsense. This list is not for airing your dirty >>> laundry, which I can assure you absolutely nobody on this list cares about. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Take it elsewhere.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >

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it elsewhere.* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *bottige...@gmail.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, November 9, 2017 3:58 PM >> *To: *Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [hlds] Proposal >&g

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You do have a right to respond. We also have a right to call you stupid and childish for causing a slap fight in what the OP had hoped to be a serious discussion. You could have ignored it. You could have just said "Not true, but it's not the time and place to discuss it here." Instead you did

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. Take it elsewhere. From: bottige...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 3:58 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Proposal I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a mailing list. No serious server ow

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> > I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a > mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to > fight on a *public mailing list for Team Fortress 2 updates*. At least > have the decency to be childish in private. > I don't think we are

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Well this service is a privilege, and if you want to ruin that with being an asshole, then don't be surprised if Valve axes the list. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:50 PM, David Parker wrote: > Nope. > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:00 PM, pilger wrote: > >>

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Nope. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:00 PM, pilger wrote: > Isn't there a moderator in charge of this list? > > > _pilger > > On 9 November 2017 at 14:22, Chris Dunphy wrote: > >> I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a >>

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Isn't there a moderator in charge of this list? _pilger On 9 November 2017 at 14:22, Chris Dunphy wrote: > I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a > mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to > fight on a

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I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to fight on a *public mailing list for Team Fortress 2 updates*. At least have the decency to be childish in private. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM,

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Hey bottiger? No One Cares -James On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: > This complaint about economics is a red herring that "404 user not found" > was just using to slander us. Valve had no problems enforcing the economic > rules before by

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This complaint about economics is a red herring that "404 user not found" was just using to slander us. Valve had no problems enforcing the economic rules before by making plugin given hats and weapons invisible in the game. If particles were really such a big deal, they would've made them

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I think at least to stay on topic, there is a matter of the economy rules Valve set in place, which I've always felt have been very vague when it comes into really specific cases like this. Ideally speaking, I feel like if what constitutes as a "valve approved" server would be very bare bones, but

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>It is really sad that you can't stop holding a grudge for being banned for >racism 7 years ago for a single day and then complaining that we were being >greedy because you were able to pay for your own server with your welfare >check. So much so, that you continue to trash talk us all this

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You are upset that this thread is going a little off topic but I am simply defending my community and at the same time refuting his silly argument that pro-community actions are useless because we abuse Valve's rules. We used to let accusations like this go uncontested and it resulted in having

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...Can we please stop with the drama, both of you? This isn't the place for it. On 09/11/2017 00:53, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm not. I don't sell anything. Hmm really, you want to prove you are blatantly lying again

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> > Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm not. I > don't sell anything. > Hmm really, you want to prove you are blatantly lying again like you did on alliedmods with your alt account abrandnewday. https://i.imgur.com/nyuMwV0.png

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Bottiger and his drama aside, thank you to Tohru Adachi for reminding me that the 3rd group using fake unusual hats was Wonderland.tf On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Lyrai wrote: > There's that mailing list drama. > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Nomaan Ahmad

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And there goes the slim chance of this thread getting taken seriously. Good job, everyone. Go team. On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:36 PM 404 <404usernotfound...@gmail.com> wrote: > "This is also a funny complaint from someone that is also selling unusuals > as a donator feature." > Where exactly do you

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"This is also a funny complaint from someone that is also selling unusuals as a donator feature." Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm not. I don't sell anything. "It is really sad that you can't stop holding a grudge for being banned for racism 7 years ago for a single

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There's that mailing list drama. On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: > Someone, turn off the oven, the roast is ready. > > On 9 November 2017 at 00:14, bottige...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Also, my main problem with this idea stems from

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Someone, turn off the oven, the roast is ready. On 9 November 2017 at 00:14, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: > Also, my main problem with this idea stems from other groups out there >> that do things that I would call "not Valve-friendly". We have groups out >> there using

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> > Also, my main problem with this idea stems from other groups out there > that do things that I would call "not Valve-friendly". We have groups out > there using fake unusual hat plugins still to this day (TitanTF, Skial, > there was a third big one I can't remember). Hello 404 user not

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Sorry, I didn't even think to link the discord which was a huge goof on my part. As to the criticism thus far, I agree with this being a problem for smaller communities, to which I am unsure of a solution for, having thought about it this essentially puts the hands in more dedicated groups. I

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rayan mollart posted a link to the serverand ill post it again for you 404 https://discord.gg/95DT4Cs On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:43 PM, 404 <404usernotfound...@gmail.com> wrote: > "The stipulation would be that in order to host an contract capable > server, the server owner would need to pay a fee

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2017 11:38 AM > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Proposal > > may we get a link to the server.tf discord since i haven't found it in > the last few days > > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Rowedahelicon < > theoneando...@rowed

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"The stipulation would be that in order to host an contract capable server, the server owner would need to pay a fee to Valve in addition to signing a contract which ideally would be negotiated through some members of the community and Valve directly." I dislike this idea as it stands. Some

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o: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Proposal may we get a link to the server.tf<http://server.tf> discord since i haven't found it in the last few days On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Rowedahelicon <theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com<mailto:theoneando...@r

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may we get a link to the server.tf discord since i haven't found it in the last few days On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Rowedahelicon < theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com> wrote: > The proposal: > I am proposing that a system be integrated into the TF2 server community > that would allow community

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>-Better moderation would allow for true hackers, trolls, and other riff-raff >to not bother otherwise innocent players No. No.. No.. Who would be moderating the people who moderates others? Do you seriously think that someone who is an asshat should be able to "punish" players when they get

[hlds] Proposal

The proposal: I am proposing that a system be integrated into the TF2 server community that would allow community server owners to run "official" community servers that would have access to contract progression like a standard Valve server. The stipulation would be that in order to host an