[hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread EvilMacGuyver
Hi everyone, I'm running a few tf2 and left4dead server on a windows 2003 server box. I know that autoupdate doesn't currently work on the windows side as was wondering 1) is valve ever going to fix this and 2) have any other windows admins come up with a decent work around for this problem other

[hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread Hyphon
Hi! Does anyone know a sourcemod plugin or can give me a link to a tutorial for creating class restrictions on DoD:S? Doe example if avalanche is loaded, MG class is set to zero, on Donner it's set to 1. Would glad to get some hints. Greetings Hyphon (Yeah, I know I'm a noob...)

Re: [hlds] Steam / VAC Connection Unstable

2009-05-31 Thread Donnie Newlove
Use Pre-Shared Key, it's just another name for WPA. There's also WPA2 and you can often choose between using some AES or TKIP but it does not matter which one you choose, they are all secure as long as your passphrase is not in a dictionary or very short. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jake E

Re: [hlds] Steam / VAC Connection Unstable

2009-05-31 Thread Jake E
OK Thanks guys ill switch to WPA. LMAO My Server isn't on wireless. It's wireless with a 4 port switch: 1== Gaming comp 2== Server 1 3== Server 2 4== Empty My friends and family use the wireless part. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: Use

Re: [hlds] Steam / VAC Connection Unstable

2009-05-31 Thread Saint K.
Run an mtr trace (winmtr.sourceforge.net) to some outside IP's. Sounds like your connection is flapping. On the winMTR trace you should detect a lot of packetloss if this is the case. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com]

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread TheNob HLDS
Hi EvilMacGuyver, I am using Windows Powershellhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/management/powershell/default.mspxtogether with the Windows Task Scheduler to automate it. The task is started every morning at 7 o'clock and does the following: *Stop all L4D server instances*

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread k e
also, check with www.beetlesmod.com. I believe you can have a mapname.cfg and place the restrictions there, like can be done for TF2. On 5/31/09, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You should go here http://www.dodsourceplugins.net/ and a plugin with this and a bunch of other stuff is

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread FPSB | Goerge
i think you can do it w/o any special addon. try making a cfg file in cfg/mapname.cfg and put your limits in there * dod has built-in class limiting cvars. :) On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:32 AM, k e mfnt...@gmail.com wrote: also, check with www.beetlesmod.com. I believe you can have a

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread Nightbox
tf2 has also, but require tournament mode 2009/5/31 FPSB | Goerge brutalgoerge...@gmail.com i think you can do it w/o any special addon. try making a cfg file in cfg/mapname.cfg and put your limits in there * dod has built-in class limiting cvars. :) On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:32 AM, k e

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread Hyphon
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Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread Hyphon
Sorry, EMail-Client is a little bit bitchy since 2 two days... My message: Thanx to all for helping me. But I have fot one more question to this. Is server.cfg still loaded in background and the mapname.cfg overwrites all cvars, I define? Like autoexec.cfg to server.cfg? HyP

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread FPSB | Goerge
i assume it goes like this.. autoexec is run when the server starts server.cfg every map change map.cfg after server cfg every map change so put your global defaults in server cfg, and if you need to have anything special on a map, put it in map cfg. when map comes up, it loads the special

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or aparticular one

2009-05-31 Thread jami
dont dend enymore enytingh pls !!! - Original Message - From: FPSB | Goerge brutalgoerge...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or a particular one

2009-05-31 Thread Cc2iscooL
Lol. On 5/31/09, jami jarmo.meriku...@kolumbus.fi wrote: dont dend enymore enytingh pls !!! - Original Message - From: FPSB | Goerge brutalgoerge...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:40 PM

Re: [hlds] DoD:S Induvidual Class restrictions for each Map or aparticular one

2009-05-31 Thread Kitteny Berk
Argh! shit! ZOMBIE! jami wrote: dont dend enymore enytingh pls !!! - Original Message - From: FPSB | Goerge brutalgoerge...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] DoD:S

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread Chris
Ive made a batch script that connect to this mail list via telnet and scans for emails with the subject [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available. When it detects that email in the pop box the script stops all the TF2 services and updates them then restarts them when they are finished

[hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Clyde cide
Hello, I have been hearing a rumour that some people are getting vac banned for using an Idle program at source op. Any one hear of this or know for sure this program will get you Vac'd? Thanks ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Neil Voutt
That is one reason why i never touched that program, i didnt want to take any chances.. regards, Neil Voutt - Administrator http://www.neilvoutt.com http://www.ipoststupidshit.com On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Clyde cide thedrunkenbraw...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I have been hearing a

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Nightbox
you are not cheating, no ban 2009/5/31 Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com That is one reason why i never touched that program, i didnt want to take any chances.. regards, Neil Voutt - Administrator http://www.neilvoutt.com http://www.ipoststupidshit.com On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM,

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread Dustin Wyatt
When I was on windows I wrote a python script that scanned the RSS for the Valve news feed and then did the same as you. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Chris ch...@pingdemons.com wrote: Ive made a batch script that  connect to this mail list via telnet and scans for emails with the subject

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Haven Meyer
If you want to track this rumor, its from one person stating they couldn't connect to the vac servers a few nights ago (which happened to us all), and then one person here: http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/400307/?cpage=1#comment_9221007-claiming to have been vac banned for it. If only

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Cc2iscooL
Technically you are cheating. The program is using the Steam API to say you're in game when you're not. Sounds like cheating to me :) On 5/31/09, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: you are not cheating, no ban 2009/5/31 Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com That is one reason why i

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Philip Bembridge
I would have thought it unlikely that you will get vac banned. However, if valve decide to strip items for using this program, it is no different to just running a server and sitting idle in it. Would they strip items for anyone playing on an achievement-idle server? or would they strip items for

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Philip Bembridge
Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the weapon drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the crit calculation!! @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a server? then sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread SakeFox
there is a difference. one you are actually running tf2. another your just running a outside application to emulate running the game. really this thread should just be stopped since its just going to turn into a flame war and the end results will be the people that use it wont think its

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Neil Voutt
It mimic's idling in a server without actually launching tf2. in a command line type interface. it connects to a master (fake) server which has 10,000 slots. this server can only be connected by the idling client program. regards, Neil Voutt - Administrator http://www.neilvoutt.com

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Neil Voutt
I am neutral to the matter, I am merely curious to see where valve's stance will be on this program if they take a stance at all. regards, Neil Voutt - Administrator http://www.neilvoutt.com http://www.ipoststupidshit.com On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:38 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote:

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Cc2iscooL
Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling in a server it could be considered a cheat. You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to emulate the game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned that seems like cheating to me. It's like

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Mike Stiehm
I agree Kenny Loggins ClanAO.com On May 31, 2009, at 4:38 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: there is a difference. one you are actually running tf2. another your just running a outside application to emulate running the game. really this thread should just be stopped since its just

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread Robert C
Valve could actually provided an rss feed of updates for any dedicated servers available on steam (steamworks mods too!). This would allow a bunch of neat things.. Rob C. Dustin Wyatt wrote: When I was on windows I wrote a python script that scanned the RSS for the Valve news feed and

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread Michael Jordan
Either one of you want to share your scripts?? I am not good at this kind of thing but am curious about how it would be done... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread EvilMacGuyver
Would any of you mind sharing the script files you've come up with as I'm sure there are more than a few people reading this topic who might be very interested in doing something like this. I myself hadn't thought of scanning the rss feed looking for the update message as a way to kick off the

Re: [hlds] Autoupdate on windows servers

2009-05-31 Thread Yaakov Smith
I have a Sidebar Gadget I wrote that automatically notifies me when TF2 updates are available. I could easily modify it to stop+update+start servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt Sent:

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Dj Satane
then maybe you should also ban all the people who use steam achievement manager... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Clyde cide
Its an interesting debate, although Valve did not Vac Ban the weapon unlocker they just removed the weapons, so I am on the fence wether or not they would Vac on this one. my gut says they wouldnt and the kid in that post got picked off for another cheat, perhaps one they didnt know about. I.E. a

[hlds] Problem being listed on the master...

2009-05-31 Thread Karl Weckstrom
Things that can cause a server to not list with the master. GO. (No firewall, on a routed /28, server is playable in all ways, VAC activated, only symptom is that it's not visible to the master, even though the config files all check out against all our other servers) Thanks in advance for the

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Donnie Newlove
In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling in TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance. On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing as it mimics idling

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Cc2iscooL
Difference is you're not using the program that it was intended to be used in. Thus cheating. Why is it so hard to understand? -- Cc2iscooL Head Admin/Owner http://www.cc2iscool.com On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: In the end the only difference

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread SakeFox
I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance. Donnie Newlove wrote:

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Tony Paloma
Nobody has complained to me that they've been VACd. The people that you are hearing this from are likely trolls. Further, the server it connects to is not VAC secure. Certainly Valve has proven it's well within their power to block people from their items. However, about 30,000 people have

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Clyde cide
Also, this isn't really relevant to running servers, so please let's not discuss it on this list. I agree, howev er this is the only place to get serious info even on this. Steam forums as a general rule... well umm there is no real value there. ___ To

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Dj Satane
many people use that achievement unlocker in slow fashion and even quick fashion and dont have their weapons removed so yea. As to someone mentioning tf2 using gpu, if you run the game minimized gpu is not used at all and runs idle the only drawback of running tf2 minimized vs not at all is memory

Re: [hlds] Problem being listed on the master...

2009-05-31 Thread Yaakov Smith
Can anyone else see it? Sometimes you cannot but someone else can. Try send a heartbeat from the server. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Problem being listed on the master...

2009-05-31 Thread Ook
Well, there is the problem! Simply sober up and you will find that it's working fine :-) Things that can cause a server to not list with the master. GO. (No firewall, on a routed /28, server is playable in all ways, VAC activated, only symptom is that it's not visible to the master, even

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread voogru
People use steam forums for information? --Original Message-- From: Clyde cide Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list ReplyTo: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread Yaakov Smith
It's not cheating the game, it's cheating the system. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread tgnwells
It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't really classify it as a cheat. And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you could get VAC banned from just manipulating the

Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?

2009-05-31 Thread FPSB | Goerge
it's amazing how many people think achievents and unlocks are such serious business. ROAR BAN ALL THE IDLERS, ROAR BAN ALL THE FAKE IDLE SERVER CLIENTS what skin is it off your nose? On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote: It's not really any different than running