[hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Jake Eisenman
Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Michael Krasnow
Windows, more plugins work with it On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.orgwrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod ___ To unsubscribe,

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Steven Gibbings
Linux, more servers without more licensing costs. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: Windows, more plugins work with it On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Shane Arnold
Asking Linux or Windows is like comparing apples to oranges. Both have their pros and cons. If it's just one server I'd go Windows. On 27/03/2010 10:27 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Dominic Marciano
Unless your comparing Mac to PC, which might happen soon.. in regards to server hosting. Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:40:20 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why Asking Linux or Windows is like comparing apples to

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Munra
Who care this is the windows list. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Eisenman Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:28 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Windows or

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Cc2iscooL
Whatever you feel more comfortable with securing and setting up. On Mar 27, 2010 9:31 AM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod ___

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread TheNob HLDS
Mac OS X: safer, but less secureSecurity expert Charlie Miller intends to disclose a potentially record-breaking 20 zero day security holes in Apple's Mac OS X in one fell swoop. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Mac-OS-X-safer-but-less-secure-Update-957981.html 2010/3/27 Dominic

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
I use Windows, no problems here. Sent from my iWheel (I BEET U r JEAoLOUS) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Dominic Marciano
http://ingresstech.com/~bernard/instantCSI/ From: voo...@voogru.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:18:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why I use Windows, no problems here. Sent from my iWheel (I BEET U r JEAoLOUS) -Original Message-

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Dominic Marciano
well.. never mind that then. Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:12:19 +0100 From: h...@thenob.de To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why Mac OS X: safer, but less secureSecurity expert Charlie Miller intends to disclose a potentially record-breaking 20 zero day

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Alfonso Arbona Gimeno
My own unix distro? xD El 27/03/2010 16:24, Dominic Marciano escribió: http://ingresstech.com/~bernard/instantCSI/ From: voo...@voogru.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:18:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why I use Windows, no problems here.

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread David Kellaway
I'm of the opinion that Windows is better if you have a larger budget. The licensing costs and additional overhead mean you'd be spending more (on hardware *and* software), but in my opinion the tools are much nicer (IIS in particular is really good) and Remote Desktop can be a huge timesaver.

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Hans Vos (Clanhost)
Hello, As a Game Server Provider I am more or less forced to use both Windows and Linux. But if all game server software were available for Linux, I would use Linux for all my servers. Easier to develop on, especially when programming a provisioning system and automating a bunch of other

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Tony Paloma
Linux. More tweakable. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Eisenman Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:28 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Windows or linux why Just

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread G. Hutchinson
Go with what your comfortable and proficient with. Opinions, pro's and con's too numerous to debate over. That is where this will go quickly, into 500 count response debate. Always go with what you know best. Hutch Submitted with my Vic-20 with DUAL tape drives via my TRS-80 router on a 1200

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread mfan
windows so I don't look gay G. Hutchinson wrote: Go with what your comfortable and proficient with. Opinions, pro's and con's too numerous to debate over. That is where this will go quickly, into 500 count response debate. Always go with what you know best. Hutch Submitted with my Vic-20

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Matt Stanton
If you're renting a dedicated server from someone, generally the prices are the same for windows and linux, so there's no obvious plus or minus here. If you want to be able to automate everything without having to buy extra software and you have the ability to write simple shell scripts, then

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Jake Eisenman
About write permissions, could you say set ownership of /cstrike/ (or similar) to user1 and update w/ that user, the run with user2 ? Sent from my iPod On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Matt Stanton inflatablesoulm...@brothersofchaos.com wrote: If you're renting a dedicated server from

[hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Since forever, players have been able to load plugins on their clients letting them get around cheat sensitive variables such as sv_cheats, allowing them to use r_drawothermodels, mat_wireframe, etc. We as server admins have had the option to install various anti cheat addons (Kigen Anti Cheat,

Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread CmptrWz
Personally, I think that client side plugins should be allowed, but limited in their possible scope. Things like http://www.tf2newbs.com/newbs_blog/2010/03/15/console-in-plugin/ are damned useful, but don't really allow you to do anything you couldn't do by typing into the console manually. That

Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread Michael Krasnow
valve really needs to beef up the exploit blocking, look how many exploits are still out there, http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:57 PM, David Kellaway david.kella...@member.fsf.org wrote: With regards to the LUA scripting plugin, the next version of KAC will

Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread Arg!
Agreed, hopefully public disclosure will help Valve get a move on fixing this. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: valve really needs to beef up the exploit blocking, look how many exploits are still out there, http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening

Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread Kyle Sanderson
David this was already rectified by the LSS developers, openscript is no longer the command as it can be easily renamed to anything. I've been getting hit numerous times by some new exploit which crashes clients / disconnects everyone ingame. From what I've been told, it's the new disconnect

Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.

2010-03-27 Thread Michael Krasnow
one day we will see this in a changelog: - Removed all commands so that people stop emailing us about fixing exploits. - All movements decreased by 100%. - Increased gravity to 9. - Removed chat features. Just wait for it, you will all see :) On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Kyle

Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why

2010-03-27 Thread Matt Stanton
You could chmod 750 the executable files and chmod 640 everything else, chown as user1:runusers, and add user2 to the runusers group... Then you could run the server as user2 and update as user1. I just didn't want to confuse myself. If I try to edit something while the server is running, I