Ok, so how would one go about getting a copy of these editions?
Jay, get a copy of the old Breitkopf Haertel Beethovens Werke
edition. If you search at abebooks.com you'll find one inexpensively
at Decorum Books in London (a very nice source for old music).
Whatever the particular year
Dr. Thompson,
I agree, we've probably conjectured this thing to
death. But (you knew that was coming, didn't you?)
you've used Beethoven's early orchestral horn parts and
compared them with the Sonata part. Apples and
oranges. I had in mind his early soloistic parts such
as those in the
Just something that nobody has brought up:
It seems that Beethoven's ego should come into play a bit, just in light of
the fact that he would have never written a cello part to this piece if he
didn't feel it a worthy melody. I do think that it was Beethoven's
melody. It is a fairly early work,
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Just something that nobody has brought up:
It seems that Beethoven's ego should come into play a bit, just in
light of
the fact that he would have never written a cello part to this piece if
he
didn't feel it a worthy melody. I do
This Beethoven thread is already getting a little old, but I had to add the
following responses to the toughtful comments of the messages by
S. Kirshner and Mr. James.
First, Mr. James, I didn't say that I thought the cello part came first. That
would imply that the piece wasn't originally for
is
dictincly in Punto's style, why would the cello version come first?
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I am no musicologist and so cannot swear
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I think you're absolutely right to say that Beethoven
could have come up with music in the style of Punto. I
would think it unlikely, however, for two reasons.
First
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I find you response fascinating, and would really like to be able to
make
direct contact, by some
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Nothwithstanding that Punto was a very great player, and probably could
sight read quite well, particularly because he was also a violinist
(where
the music can really
Just something that nobody has brought up:
It seems that Beethoven's ego should come into play a bit, just in light of
the fact that he would have never written a cello part to this piece if he
didn't feel it a worthy melody. I do think that it was Beethoven's melody. It is
a fairly early
I think there's a lot to be said for the notion that
Punto wrote the horn part to the Sonata himself. If
you look at any of the solo horn music that Punto wrote
you will see that the part in the Sonata fits his own
music like a glove. It's not the most interesting horn
part going. And if you
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I think there's a lot to be said for the notion that
Punto wrote the horn part to the Sonata himself. If
you look at any of the solo horn music that Punto wrote
you will see that the part
I am no musicologist and so cannot swear that the following is true. But I
am told this by a cellist friend of mine who wrote his dissertation on the
subject at a very reputable school, so I assume that it is correct. If anyone
out there has verifiable contradictions, I would appreciate knowing
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