Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello, Cheers to Blake and Dan for articulating all I have been feeling about doing validations. I do think that new terminology is needed ("invalidated" -- ugh!). Why not just change it to "needs more mapping"? We don't need a single word. Also, it would be good to have a

Re: [HOT] Mapping Logging Roads in the Congo Basin

2015-03-25 Thread Jorieke Vyncke
Hi James, Thanks a lot for the initiative! For the two Congo's it might be usefull to still try to reach out a little more to the local communities. Because I know in both countries, we have OSM enthusiasts. By the way, are we talking about the same data? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Centr

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
And just to go off at a tangent has anyone thought about tapping into old people's homes? Some residents are mentally alert and it might help keep them amused. Not a full scale mapathon and you might even have to explain what a mouse is. Many will not have wifi, but JOSM can work off line and I

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Cristiano Giovando
I wonder if this has been discussed before - and I apologized if it has - would it be a viable idea to add a slider or a percentage drop down menu for the mapper to select the amount of work that still needs to be done for each task? This can be a subjective and rough estimate from the person worki

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pete Masters
It's an interesting discussion and one that we have fairly frequently. At the mapathons we run in London, whoever is doing the training is careful to make clear that volunteers should mark squares as done once they think they are done. They are reassured that when a validator goes over their mappi

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
"Needs another look?" maybe, both incomplete and invalid are slightly negative. I like the idea of sending someone a more positive message when their tiles have been validated, could it include the comment by the validator? Cheerio John On 25 March 2015 at 11:27, James Conkling wrote: > 'incom

[HOT] Mapping Logging Roads in the Congo Basin

2015-03-25 Thread James Conkling
Hi all, I’m pleased to announce the launch of a long-term initiative to upload logging road data from across the Congo Basin. We currently have three TM projects running: - Democratic Republic of the Congo: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/920 - Central African Republic: http://tas

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread James Conkling
'incomplete' instead of 'invalid'? I'll be honest, I've never validated a task b/c I thought you needed a certain level of 'certification' (even informally). On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > > This is kind of a very subtle point, but I have written about it before: >

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Blake Girardot
This is kind of a very subtle point, but I have written about it before: I find it difficult to validate tiles because they so often need more work and are not really "done". That leaves me with these choices: 1. Do the mapping myself, which I usually do, but then I have less time for vali

Re: [HOT] Quick question - HOT and Haiti story

2015-03-25 Thread Martin Dittus
Two classic papers on the topic: Soden, R. and Palen, L. (2014). "From Crowdsourced Mapping to Community Mapping: The Post-Earthquake Work of OpenStreetMap Haiti.” https://www.cs.colorado.edu/~palen/Papers/HaitiCOOP_Final.pdf Zook et al (2010), “Volunteered geographic information and crowdsourci

[HOT] Quick question - HOT and Haiti story

2015-03-25 Thread Pete Masters
Hi all, Can anyone point to anywhere there is a good account of Haiti 2010 and the reaction of OSM people (and subsequent development of HOT)? Particularly how you organised yourselves around this task at such short notice and any timelines. This is not super important, so please don't spend ages

Re: [HOT] Most "active" HOT projects since March 2014

2015-03-25 Thread Martin Dittus
> On 23 Mar 2015, at 20:35, Pierre Béland wrote: > > The number of changesets is also a gross estimate of the contributor efforts. > How to compare a contributor that adds 100 buildings, one changeset for each > (we see this often with new contributors) with a contributor that has a few > tho

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
and whilst I'm on my soap box there are two other issues with tiles. The first is micro tiling where tiles without much on them are split into sixteen tiles each with perhaps one hut on them, and the other is I've seen tiles that really are completely mapped, yes I've gone through them systematica

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
But on the other hand we have some mappers whom I'm confident their tiles will contain only very minor errors, and given the large number of projects that could do with mapping I'm not sure that spending time validating these is the best use of our very limited resources. If we are going to spend

Re: [HOT] Most "active" HOT projects since March 2014

2015-03-25 Thread Martin Dittus
I just updated the spreadsheet — the user numbers were inflated thanks to a subtle bug in my code with big consequences… they now more closely track total participant counts in the HOT tasking manager. (Many thanks to DaCor and Ciaran Staunton who helped me track this down.) m. > On 23 Mar 2

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pierre Béland
We have already made similar propositions a few times on the Github isssues service for the Tasking manager.  See the recent discussion.https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/545     Pierre De : Denis Carriere À : Daniel Specht Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le :

Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

2015-03-25 Thread Frederic Moine
Dear Dale, I know all the NGO they don’t have the time in Haiti, we have seen the result in the field. I thought we were here to reinforce local capacity, see what has been done previously and coordinate with the existing capacity. You are asking OSM community to use a UAV image we have do

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pierre GIRAUD
Hi Daniel, This makes much sense. Do you have a github account? If so, please create an issue and copy paste your message there. Pierre On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Daniel Specht wrote: > Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated slowly. This could be > because > (A) beginners don

Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

2015-03-25 Thread Dale Kunce
Fred, I can't wait for the imagery. I would love to see the imagery and think of ways to incorporate it into our project in Canaan. The majority of the help that we need at this moment is completing the Canaan tracing task. We will begin our field activities in soon and really need to finish the t

Re: [HOT] Canaan Haiti Mapping

2015-03-25 Thread Frederic Moine
Dear dale, During our last UAV mission with OSM Haiti we covered a small part of canaan with a normal caméra and a Near Infra Red Camera. We are making the post traitment and will publish it when it will be ready (with Jean Guilhem). However we will need to cover more area. Our last mission