[htdig] 3.2v?

2001-01-12 Thread Emilio Bueso


When will the 3.2 version of ht://Dig be available?


Regards,

Emilio Bueso

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[htdig] prepare a search index for a different URL

2001-01-12 Thread Matthias Kleine

Hi there,

we aim to deliver a large documentation to a customer and 
want to include a search engine in this package.

The easiest way of installation would be, if the search index
of the documentation could be created without knowing the 
final URL. Example: I create a search index for 

http://www.mydocumentation.com/projectfolder 

and all subdirectories. Afterwards, the documentation will
be used by the customer under 

http://www.customersdomain.com/projectfolder

It should now be possible to install the htdig-files and to
tell the search index that the first part of all URL's has
changed to a different value (while everything else stayed 
the same). 

Is this possible or has the search index to be built completely
new each time when the basic URL changes? (I.e. the use of a 
variable for the basic URL is not possible).

Thanks for any hints,
Matthias Kleine
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Re: [htdig] Unable to contact server-revisisted

2001-01-12 Thread David Adams

Is this server in your local network or remote?  It might be worth trying to
index it via a proxy cache.  I found that this cured the problem for us,
though it hasn't helped everybody.

Take a look at the http_proxy configuration file attribute.

--
David Adams
Computing Services
Southampton University


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Subject: [htdig] Unable to contact server-revisisted


 Hi,

 I'm running htdig v3.1.5 and my digging seems to be running out of steam
 after it runs for anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour or so. The initial
msg
 was "Unable to connect to server". So, I ran it again with -v v v   to get
 the error message below.

 pick: ponderingjudd.xxx.com, # servers = 550
 3213:3622:2:http://ponderingjudd.xxx.com/ponderingjudd/id6.html: Unable to
 build
  connection with ponderingjudd.xxx.com:80
  no server running

 I've replaced part of the URL with xxx to protect the innocent. The server
 certainly is running and I had no trouble finding the mentioned url. Is
 there some parm I need to set or limit I need to raise?
 We're running an apache server with startservers =25 and minspace=10.

 Thanks for your help,
 Roger

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 http://www.trellix.com


 
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Re: [htdig] Problem with PDF files....

2001-01-12 Thread Elijah Kagan

Gilles,

1. I run htdig with an explicit -c option, so it uses the correct conf
file.
2. I rewrote the external_parsers so it includes only one line...
3. ..and it is the first line in the file

Results are the same! It is still looking for an acroread!

Please, help. I am getting desperate...

-- elijah


On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Gilles Detillieux wrote:

 According to Elijah Kagan:
  
  Dear Everyone
  
  Hope this is the correct list to send such questions. If not, accept my
  apologies.
  
  When I run htdig on my files I get the following message when it comes to
  a PDF document:
  
  41:41:3:http://myserver/~elijah/document.pdf: PDF::parse: cannot find pdf
  parser /usr/local/bin/acroread  size = 1965732 
  
  For some reason htdig looks for an Acrobat while its config file clearly
  states:
  
  external_parsers: application/msword-text/html /usr/local/bin/conv_doc.pl \
application/postscript-text/html /usr/local/bin/conv_doc.pl \
application/pdf-text/html /usr/local/bin/conv_doc.pl
  
  The conv_doc.pl exists and working and the content type received from the
  server is application/pdf.
  
  Any ideas?
 ...
  P.S.  I am running htdig 3.1.5 on a Debian system.
 
 There are a few possibilities:
 
 1) htdig isn't looking at this config file, but another one, without
 the external_parsers definition;
 2) there's a typo in the external_parsers definition that isn't showing up 
 in the text you e-mailed above, e.g. a misspelled word or a space after
 one of the backslashes at the end of the first two lines; or
 3) there's a definition right above your external_parsers definition that
 mistakenly ends with a backslash at the end of the line, causing your
 external_parsers definition to be swallowed up by the previous line.
 
 That htdig is attempting to invoke acroread confirms two things:  a)
 the PDF file is correctly being tagged by the server as application/pdf,
 and b) htdig is not seeing a usable definition of an external parser
 for that content-type, for any of the reasons outlined above.
 
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Re: [htdig] 3.2v?

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

At 9:47 AM +0100 1/12/01, Emilio Bueso wrote:
When will the 3.2 version of ht://Dig be available?

Betas are available now--the 3.2.0b3 release will be made fairly soon.

When will 3.2.0 be ready? When it's finished.

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Re: [htdig] prepare a search index for a different URL

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

At 11:42 AM +0100 1/12/01, Matthias Kleine wrote:
http://www.customersdomain.com/projectfolder

It should now be possible to install the htdig-files and to
tell the search index that the first part of all URL's has
changed to a different value (while everything else stayed
the same).

What you'll want to do is to use the url_part_aliases attribute:
http://www.htdig.org/attrs.html#url_par_aliases

Index the site using something like this in your config file:
url_part_aliases: http://www.mydocumentation.com/ *1

Then when you install the documentation, you'll want to edit the 
config file to read:
url_part_aliases: http://www.customersdomain.com/ *1

This will encode the URLs when indexing and make sure a different 
pattern is there for decoding on the customer's end.

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AW: [htdig] prepare a search index for a different URL

2001-01-12 Thread Reich, Stefan

You can use the url_part_aliases feature to get this done. You need two
config files, one for digging, one for searching.

In the dig config, you set url_part_aliases: http://original_url.com/
replace#1
In the search config you set url_part_aliases: http://new_url.com/ replace#1

replace#1 may be any string, which is not a common word in your documents (I
always use replace#1 replace#2 and so on for such "rename" tasks)

See http://www.htdig.org/attrs.html#url_part_aliases

Bye

  Stefan

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Hi there,

we aim to deliver a large documentation to a customer and 
want to include a search engine in this package.

The easiest way of installation would be, if the search index
of the documentation could be created without knowing the 
final URL. Example: I create a search index for 

http://www.mydocumentation.com/projectfolder 

and all subdirectories. Afterwards, the documentation will
be used by the customer under 

http://www.customersdomain.com/projectfolder

It should now be possible to install the htdig-files and to
tell the search index that the first part of all URL's has
changed to a different value (while everything else stayed 
the same). 

Is this possible or has the search index to be built completely
new each time when the basic URL changes? (I.e. the use of a 
variable for the basic URL is not possible).

Thanks for any hints,
Matthias Kleine
-- 
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Patzschke + Rasp Software AG  Fax:   ++49-(0)6 11-17 31-31
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Re: [htdig] 3.2v?

2001-01-12 Thread Michael Schulz

Geoff Hutchison wrote:
 When will 3.2.0 be ready? When it's finished.

Really? :-)))

What do you think (aprox.), when the 3.2.0 will be ready?

Mike


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Re: [htdig] Problem with PDF files....

2001-01-12 Thread Gilles Detillieux

According to Elijah Kagan:
 1. I run htdig with an explicit -c option, so it uses the correct conf
 file.
 2. I rewrote the external_parsers so it includes only one line...
 3. ..and it is the first line in the file
 
 Results are the same! It is still looking for an acroread!
 
 Please, help. I am getting desperate...

Hmm.  You're sure you're running version 3.1.5 of htdig, and you
don't have a pre-3.1.4 binary of htdig kicking around that you might be
unknowingly running instead?  External converter support was added to the
external_parsers attribute only in version 3.1.4 and above.  If you're
sure this isn't the problem either, please send me a copy of your conf
file as it stands now (preferably uuencoded right on your htdig box to
prevent e-mail mangling of it), and I'll have a look and try a test or two.

Oh, another thing.  You mentioned this was on a Debian system.  Did you
compile htdig yourself, or did you use a pre-compiled binary?  If the
latter, which one?

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Re: [htdig] 3.1.3 engine on 3.1.5 db

2001-01-12 Thread Gilles Detillieux

According to Dave Salisbury:
  If
  you created your database with htdig 3.1.5, and want to search it with
  htsearch 3.1.3, that's a bad idea.  The most glaring bug in releases
  before 3.1.5 is in htsearch, so you really should upgrade it.
 
 I take it one of the worst things is the security hole which allows
 a user to view any file with read permissions ( ouch! )

That's the one!

 Is there any way to correct for this with a wrapper around htsearch?
 Reading the indices using 3.1.3 that were created by a 3.1.5 engine
 seems to work just fine.

There would be, but it might be a tad tricky.  The idea is to use a
backslash to quote any left quote (`), dollar sign ($) or backslash
(\) in the query string that is part of an input parameter value that
will get added to the config object as an internal attribute setting.
The lines in htsearch/htsearch.cc that do this are (from a grep):

config.Add("match_method", input["method"]);
config.Add("template_name", input["format"]);
config.Add("matches_per_page", input["matchesperpage"]);
config.Add("config", input["config"]);
config.Add("restrict", input["restrict"]);
config.Add("exclude", input["exclude"]);
config.Add("keywords", input["keywords"]);
config.Add("sort", input["sort"]);
config.Add(form_vars[i], input[form_vars[i]]);

The last one above is the tricky one, as it can be any input parameter
name that you use in allow_in_form.  Rather that limiting the backslash
escaping of special characters to only the values of these parameters,
it might be better to do the whole query string, but exclude a few
parameters where this might be undesirable.  I'd recommend NOT doing
this for the "words" input parameter, for instance, but I can't think
of any others right off-hand where you would not want to do this.

 Anyone out there want to bash Glimpse before I look into it.  
 I'm hoping to get it at least to compile on an SGI.

I won't do any bashing, but if htdig is your preference, I'd suggest not
giving up on it too quickly.  Did you have a look at David Adams' recent
post about an "IRIX compile fix"?  In it, he forwarded a message from
Bob MacCallum that explains a workaround to some problems on IRIX 6.5,
using cc, not gcc.  If you haven't already, you ought to try that before
abandoning htdig.

  On the other hand, if you have an existing database built with version
  3.1.3, and want to use it with the latest htsearch, that should work
  without any difficulty.  However, you'll lose out on several benefits
  in the latest htdig (better parsing of meta tags, parsing img alt text,
  fixed parsing of URL parameters, etc.), 
 
 Couldn't find what "fixed parsing of URL parameters" means.
 The query string is part of what's indexed??

The query string isn't indexed, but it's part of the URL.  3.1.3 mangled
bare ampersands () in the query string in an URL, and versions before
that didn't decode sequences like eacute; within an URL.  I think the
ChangeLog explains it better than the release notes.

Tue Nov 23 19:52:27 1999  Gilles Detillieux  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* htdig/HTML.cc(transSGML), htdig/SGMLEntities.cc(translateAndUpdate):
Fix the infamous problem in htdig 3.1.3 of mangling URL parameters that
contain bare ampersands (), and not converting amp; entities in URLs.
...
Wed Sep  1 15:39:41 1999  Gilles Detillieux  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* htdig/HTML.h, htdig/HTML.cc(do_tag, transSGML): Fix the HTML parser
to decode SGML entities within tag attributes.

  which you'll only get if you
  reindex with htdig 3.1.5.  Maybe none of these matter for your site,
  though.  See the release notes and ChangeLog for details.
 
 I don't think they're essential.

Except for the URL parameter mangling fix, of course.

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RE: [htdig] 3.2v?

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Emilio Bueso wrote:

 I DO need phrase search. Will 3.2.0b3 support phrase searching?

Yes. As do the current development snapshots.

 Could I use indexes from 3.1.5 with 3.2.0b3?

Alas, no. The pre-3.2 code doesn't index word positions, etc. So you have
to reindex again. But there will be ways to update indexes after this
point. Reade the htdoc/RELEASE.html and htdoc/upgrade.html files for
instructions.

  When will 3.2.0 be ready?
  When it's finished.
 
 A long way to go?:)

I'd guess we need at least one more beta before aiming at 3.2.0.

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[htdig] Invitations aux soldes privés de Grandes marques !

2001-01-12 Thread RICO




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Re: [htdig] Performance problems with htdig 3.2.0b2

2001-01-12 Thread Gilles Detillieux

According to Mathias Rohland:
 I have a problem with the performance of htdig 3.2.0b2. I'm indexing 
 about +25.500 HTML-docs at the moment and it takes several (+8) hours 
 to index them on a machine that's not to busy with outher tasks (PII 233
 w/ 512K Cache and 128MB RAM).
...
 I need to use htdig 3.2.0b2 as we need phrase searching and a second
 machine in another location that runs with solaris won't like 3.2.0b3.

3.2.0b3 is still a work in progress, but it already fixes a large number
of bugs in 3.2.0b2.  Try the latest snapshot of b3, and if you still
can't compile it on Solaris, please e-mail us at this list the output
of the configure and make runs.  I don't think it makes sense for us to
take time debugging an old beta version when the real problem here is
you can't build the latest beta pre-release.

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[htdig] htdig ignores *.doc file extension

2001-01-12 Thread Evelio Martinez



Hello!
I have installed htdig under RH 6.2 and I have followed the README
files instructions.
1) conf/htdig.conf
 does not contain nothing related to *.doc or *.pdf
documents in bad_extensions:
2) external_parsers: application/msword->text/html
/opt/www/htdig/scripts/doc2html.pl \

application/pdf->text/html /opt/www/htdig/scripts/doc2html.pl
3) Variables in doc2html point to the correct place
 $CATDOC = "/usr/local/bin/catdoc";
 $CATPDF = "/usr/local/bin/pdftotext";
 $PDFINFO = "/usr/local/bin/pdfinfo";
htdig is ignoring the files with pdf and doc extension.
Did I miss something?
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance
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46005 Valencia (Spain)
Tel: +34 96 395 90 00
Fax: +34 96 316 23 19



[htdig] how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it always show 1%

2001-01-12 Thread Edward Lu



Hi 
Htdig,
I am 
trying to set the $(PERCENT) on my result pages. But it always shows 1% any 
result I got. 
Is 
there any configuration I need to set?

By the 
way, Htdig is very good. Better than the AltaVista search engine. I tried 
both.

Looking forward your reply.

Thanks!
-Ed



  
  

  

  



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  22nd Floor, San Francisco, CA 94104
  

  
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Re: [htdig] how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it always show 1%

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Edward Lu wrote:

 I am trying to set the $(PERCENT) on my result pages. But it always shows 1%
 any result I got. 

I'm going to guess that you're using 3.2.0b2. I strongly suggest using
either the production version 3.1.5 or one of the latest development
snapshots:
http://www.htdig.org/files/snapshots/

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Re: [htdig] htdig ignores *.doc file extension

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Evelio Martinez wrote:

 htdig is ignoring the files with pdf and doc extension.

By this, I assume you mean they're not indexed.

Try running htdig -vvv and take a look at what happens when it encounters
a link to a PDF file. Does it reject the link? Or does it get to the link
and try to index it later?

If it's the former, then one of your limits is set incorrectly. (e.g.
bad_extensions, valid_extensions, exclude_urls, limit_urls_to ...)

If it's the latter, then make sure you can run a .doc or a .pdf through
the external converter itself and get reasonable-looking output.

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RE: [htdig] how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it always show 1%

2001-01-12 Thread Edward Lu

Geoff,
What is the security hole in version 3.1.5?
It sounds scary. 

-Ed

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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:47 PM
To: Edward Lu
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [htdig] how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it always show 1%


On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Edward Lu wrote:

 I am trying to set the $(PERCENT) on my result pages. But it always shows
1%
 any result I got. 

I'm going to guess that you're using 3.2.0b2. I strongly suggest using
either the production version 3.1.5 or one of the latest development
snapshots:
http://www.htdig.org/files/snapshots/

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Re: [htdig] security hole (was: how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it always show 1%)

2001-01-12 Thread Gilles Detillieux

According to Edward Lu:
 Geoff,
 What is the security hole in version 3.1.5?
 It sounds scary. 

The security hole is in version BEFORE 3.1.5, and is fixed in 3.1.5.  It
allowed a user to snoop through any file on your web server's file system,
as long as it was readable by the user ID under which the web server process
runs, just by passing it a special query string in the htsearch URL.

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[htdig] any suggestions for using 3.1.5 or 3.2.0b2?

2001-01-12 Thread Edward Lu

According to the release note for htdig-3.2.0b2. It added more functionality
and fixed all known bugs after 3.1.5
But apparently it still has the relevance ($(PERCENT)) bug and not stable
enough. 
I am asking for any suggestions about which version (3.1.5 or 3.2.0b2)
should be used for our company web site. 
Any experience about the advantage and disadvantage of both the versions?

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

-Edward

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From: Gilles Detillieux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [htdig] security hole (was: how to set the $(PERCENT)? -it
always show 1%)


According to Edward Lu:
 Geoff,
 What is the security hole in version 3.1.5?
 It sounds scary. 

The security hole is in version BEFORE 3.1.5, and is fixed in 3.1.5.  It
allowed a user to snoop through any file on your web server's file system,
as long as it was readable by the user ID under which the web server process
runs, just by passing it a special query string in the htsearch URL.

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http://www.scrc.umanitoba.ca/~grdetil
Dept. Physiology, U. of Manitoba  Phone:  (204)789-3766
Winnipeg, MB  R3E 3J7  (Canada)   Fax:(204)789-3930


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[htdig] Grouping words

2001-01-12 Thread Jason Meyering

Is it possible to group words in a search via quotes or anything?  For
example, I tried searching for an answer on htdig.org and a search for
"group words" (including the quotes) performed a search for "group and
words" but not the string "group words".  The same thing happens on my test
server--when I try to group words in quotes, htsearch always splits them up
into individual words.  Is there any way to change this behaviour or any
characters I can put in the search string that will allow grouping?  Thanks
in advance!

J


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[htdig] Re: any suggestions for using 3.1.5 or 3.2.0b2?

2001-01-12 Thread Gilles Detillieux

According to Edward Lu:
 According to the release note for htdig-3.2.0b2. It added more functionality
 and fixed all known bugs after 3.1.5
 But apparently it still has the relevance ($(PERCENT)) bug and not stable
 enough. 
 I am asking for any suggestions about which version (3.1.5 or 3.2.0b2)
 should be used for our company web site. 
 Any experience about the advantage and disadvantage of both the versions?
 
 Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
 -Edward

It's correct that 3.2.0b2 fixed many known bugs in 3.1.5, but none of
these were earth-shattering problems.  There were many limitations,
though, in the 3.1.x series that required a pretty radical redesign of
many components.

While 3.2.0b2 did fix some bugs, it introduced a whole lot because of
the large number of redesigned/rewritten components.  That's why 3.2 is
still in beta.  The latest 3.2.0b3 pre-release source snapshot fixes a
lot of the 3.2.0b2 bugs, but there are still some that remain.

If you need the features of 3.2, then use the b3 snapshots, not the
b2 release.  If you don't need these features, and the limitations of
3.1 aren't a problem for you, then you'd be wise to stick to 3.1.5 for
a production system until 3.2 gets a bit more of a shakeout.

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Re: [htdig] Grouping words

2001-01-12 Thread Geoff Hutchison

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jason Meyering wrote:

 Is it possible to group words in a search via quotes or anything?  For

See the FAQ: http://www.htdig.org/FAQ.html#q1.9

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