Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
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Re: [I18n] urdu keymap

2004-09-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
that you need? Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__ ___ I18n mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/i18n

[I18n] Re: Revision of Appendix A of the X11 Protocol Spec: KEYSYM Encoding

2004-08-17 Thread Markus Kuhn
Alan Coopersmith wrote on 2004-08-16 16:35 UTC: Markus Kuhn wrote: I have substantially revised and updated the long neglected KEYSYM Encoding specification in Appendix A of the X11 Protocol Standard. The result, which I propose for inclusion into the next X.Org release, is on http

[I18n] Re: [Xorg] Revision of Appendix A of the X11 Protocol Spec: KEYSYM Encoding

2004-08-16 Thread Markus Kuhn
://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=246 There is also a wiki page on the subject on http://freedesktop.org/XOrg/KeySyms Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__ ___ I18n

[I18n] Revision of keysymdef.h

2004-08-09 Thread Markus Kuhn
minor editorial fixes for better consistency, comments added that clarify the Unicode mapping rule. Unless someone shouts with an objection, I will submit these for inclusion into the X.Org and XFree86 trees soon. Proposed update to the X11 standard will follow shortly. Markus -- Markus Kuhn

Re: [I18n] Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-04 Thread Markus Kuhn
, and not the old MS-Windows one. (Or implement both together, if you really need MS-Windows compatibility here. They don't interfere with each other, because the ISO 14755 technique uses Ctrl-Shift to activate the hex-entry mode, while MS-Windows uses Alt.) Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ

Re: [I18n] Keysyms for Unicode values

2004-04-15 Thread Markus Kuhn
major X.Org release. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#x11 Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__ ___ I18n mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo

[I18n] UTF-8 ICCCM properties

2004-03-22 Thread Markus Kuhn
. Opinions? Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__ ___ I18n mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/i18n

Re: [I18n] Unicode keysym questions

2004-03-05 Thread Markus Kuhn
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[I18n] X.Org (Foundation) waking up / UTF8_STRING / Keysyms

2004-02-28 Thread Markus Kuhn
/sophocles/show_mail.tpl?source=Llistname=xorg_archid=16 Keysyms probably will be next. More on the xorg_arch mailing list: http://www.x.org/XOrg_Foundation_Join_OpenLists.html Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ || CB3 0FD, Great Britain

Re: [I18n] Unicode

2003-01-14 Thread Markus Kuhn
to represent the Unicode character U+abcd. Also read: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#x11 Instead of xmodmap, also consider to use xkbcomp. Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Lab, Univ of Cambridge, GB http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ | __oo_O..O_oo__

Re: [I18n]per mille symbol, ligature symbols?

2003-01-03 Thread Markus Kuhn
Andreas Tobler wrote on 2003-01-03 12:36 UTC: e.g. key TLDE {[0x0100+0x2030]} 0x01002030 Markus -- Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK Email: mkuhn at acm.org, WWW: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ ___ I18n mailing

[I18n]Re: Decimal key on European keyboard layouts

2002-12-19 Thread Markus Kuhn
Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote on 2002-12-13 10:13 UTC: Looking at the unicode charts (especially the character name index http://www.unicode.org/charts/charindex.html ) I see that ASCII dot 0x2E has become Unicode 0x002E Decimal Point and ASCII comma 0x2C has become 0x002C decimal

Re: Solution. was:[I18n]XFree86 Xutf8LookupString BUG with Solarix X server.

2002-11-30 Thread Markus Kuhn
Thanks for the fast bug fix. I hope, RedHat/Suse/etc. will fix this in their RPMs *very soon*, otherwise the UTF-8 locales remain completely unuseable for everyone on an X server without XKBD (e.g., Solaris). Ivan Pascal wrote on 2002-11-29 12:46 UTC: But under the UTF-8 locale XLookupString

Re: [I18n]XFree86 Xutf8LookupString BUG with Solarix X server

2002-11-28 Thread Markus Kuhn
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote on 2002-11-28 11:36 UTC: 'A knot!' said Alice. 'Oh, do let me help to undo it!' Could you please put an xscope dump on the web somewhere ? Thanks! I didn't know about xscope. The requested dump is now on http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/xev-adiaeresis-utf8.txt

[I18n]xev XIM patch

2002-11-27 Thread Markus Kuhn
In order to hunt down a very odd problem with the XmbLookupString and Xutf8LookupString functions, I have extended the good old xev command to print the output of these two functions as well, in addition to that of XLookupString. In order to use XmbLookupString or Xutf8LookupString, one needs to

[I18n]XFree86 Xutf8LookupString BUG with Solarix X server

2002-11-27 Thread Markus Kuhn
I think I have run into a serious bug with XFree86's Xutf8LookupString implementation. It occurs when the client runs under XFree86 4.[12], but the X server is for example Solaris 5.8 vendor string:Sun Microsystems, Inc. vendor release number:6410 (also occurs on Solaris 5.7). It

Re: [I18n]Unicode / 16-Bit

2002-11-19 Thread Markus Kuhn
Is the X (4.x) supporting Unicode/16 Bit encoding ? How ? Yes, to some degree. To get started, try: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html Markus -- Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK Email: mkuhn at acm.org, WWW: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/

Re: [I18n]Syriac keyboard layout

2002-11-14 Thread Markus Kuhn
Emil Soleyman-Zomalan wrote on 2002-11-14 16:00 UTC: Just for my own knowledge, what would be the disadvantage of creating a new set of keysyms for Syriac as already has been done for several other languages? There is nothing wrong in principle with adding new keysyms, however the integer

Re: [I18n]Locales and charset encodings

2002-11-12 Thread Markus Kuhn
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote on 2002-11-12 16:49 UTC: Use nl_langinfo(3), but it's an SUSv2 interface (i.e. it's not in POSIX) POSIX.{1,2}:2001 and SUSv4 are the same thing now. So nl_langinfo(CODESET) is now actually officially part of the holy dogma of the church of POSIX. Halleluhia.

Re: [I18n]Re: [li18nux:1094] BACKSPACE behavior

2002-10-03 Thread Markus Kuhn
I had originally argued strongly in favour of a BACKSPACE display semantics that removes the character left of the cursor (let's call this character L), and then moves the cursor wcwidth(L) character cells to the left. This is by far the most sensible solution, because this way, if you echo the

Re: [I18n]Deadkeys for ntilde and accents on a US keyboard?

2002-10-02 Thread Markus Kuhn
Oscar A. Valdez wrote on 2002-10-01 22:37 UTC: How do I configure XFree86 v. 4.1.0 to get ñ,Ñ,á,é,í,ó and ú on a US-layout keyboard? If it is only for personal single-user use, then .Xmodmap is still the simplest solution. I routinely type German and English text on a UK keyboard with the

Re: [I18n]unicode

2002-09-30 Thread Markus Kuhn
Viveka Nathan K wrote on 2002-09-30 10:56 UTC: I wish to use the unicode encoding. How can I know, which applications are supporting the unicode. What should I need to do, to make an application to support unicode ? Read http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html to get started.

Re: [I18n]Default fonts for xterm

2002-08-26 Thread Markus Kuhn
Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote on 2002-08-26 08:48 UTC: The first is that simply using *-iso10646-1 fonts as defaults. This could already be achieved by changing in /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias the line fixed-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 to fixed

Re: [I18n]Displaying chinese in an xterm

2002-08-14 Thread Markus Kuhn
Jungshik Shin wrote on 2002-08-06 15:05 UTC: You can use one of 18pixel iso10646-1 bitmap fonts included in XF86 4.x with more CJK characters than 13pixel font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-ko-18-120-100-100-c-180-iso10646-1 -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-ja-18-120-100-100-c-180-iso10646-1

[I18n]Re: Welsh support needed for XFree86

2002-08-14 Thread Markus Kuhn
Attached is an old email that represents the most authoritative information that I have on the diacritic characters used in dictionaries of the Welsh language. Hope this helped ... Markus -- Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Laboratory, University of Cambridge, UK Email: mkuhn at acm.org, WWW:

[I18n]Re: POSIX:2001 freely available, STIX Fonts

2002-07-10 Thread Markus Kuhn
Keith Packard wrote on 2002-07-10 01:09 UTC: AFAIK, SUS and POSIX say that it's implementation-dependent. Too bad the POSIX spec is closed so I can't check. For all of you who haven't heard yet, SUS3 and POSIX:2001 are now the same thing and are freely available online on

Re: [Fonts]Re: [I18n]language tags in fontconfig

2002-07-09 Thread Markus Kuhn
Keith Packard wrote on 2002-07-06 10:34 UTC: I got the European coverage information from http://www.evertype.com/alphabets/ I don't know why all of the latin languages include @ and ', it's probably just a mistake; they're easily removed. Actually, thanks to URLs and email

[I18n]Please do not use en_US.UTF-8 outside the US

2002-04-30 Thread Markus Kuhn
As we are talking about en_US.UTF-8: General warning: Please do not use the locale name en_US.UTF-8 anywhere outside North America. Some older Solaris documentation suggested that this is the only UTF-8 locale you'll ever need, as locales don't change much sensible beyond the encoding anyway.

Re: [I18n]So, will Bidi+Xterm happen ?

2002-02-28 Thread Markus Kuhn
Nadim Shaikli wrote on 2002-02-28 23:48 UTC: What are your comments on mlterm, patch27, biditext (have you used 'em) ? Can you send me a compact exact specification of the exact bidi semantics of these implementations? I haven't seen one yet and I don't have the time to reverse engineer these.

Re: [I18n]BiDi rant

2002-02-13 Thread Markus Kuhn
Mark Leisher wrote on 2002-02-13 00:29 UTC: I respect Markus too much to think this was anything more than a subconscious plea for simplicity and symmetry, born of irritation with messy reality. Sort of absentmindedly muttering out loud when someone is nearby. What I primarily wanted to

Re: [I18n]BiDi rant

2002-02-12 Thread Markus Kuhn
Tzafrir Cohen wrote on 2002-02-12 18:46 UTC: I think it might be a good idea to really keep bidi completely out of xterm. If people want to play around with bidi terminal semantics, then I would suggest that they build a filter that can be plugged in between the LTR terminal and the

[I18n]Re: XLFD subsetting and bdftruncate

2002-01-22 Thread Markus Kuhn
Moe Elzubeir wrote on 2002-01-22 17:08 UTC: The subsetting system is in place already, so now what? I still have not fully understood, what exactly is in place and how well does it work in X11R6. For example xfd -fn '-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-*-75-75-C-*-ISO10646-1[0_0xff]'

Re: [I18n]Re: [Devel] Re: [Fonts]Another approach to text in X

2002-01-20 Thread Markus Kuhn
Alexander Gelfenbain wrote on 2002-01-17 19:59 UTC: I can confirm that the license ST will be released with is BSD+ which is standard BSD with the following clause: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or indended * for use in the design, construction, operation

Re: [I18n]U+3000 limit

2002-01-10 Thread Markus Kuhn
Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote on 2002-01-10 10:58 UTC: At Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:07:03 +, Markus Kuhn wrote: .. unless an explicit subrange specification is present, such that people have to write *-iso10646-1[0_0x] if they are sure that they want to have the full font

[I18n]Re: U+3000 limit

2002-01-08 Thread Markus Kuhn
Moe Elzubeir wrote on 2002-01-08 00:12 UTC: I have been looking into the U+3000 limit and how the 10x20 font is being truncated to save memory space. This 'truncation' of the 10x20 for 'optimization' is seriously hampering our efforts to bring Arabic support on platforms where XFree86 runs.

Re: [I18n]U+3000 limit

2002-01-08 Thread Markus Kuhn
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote on 2002-01-08 14:16 UTC: Font subsetting is fully implemented in the BDF, PCF, Type 1, Speedo and freetype backends. I haven't checked the SNF or X-TT backends. Try xfd -fn '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-*-75-75-c-*-iso8859-1[65_90]' Very nice, I

[I18n]Re: RENDER performance

2001-12-29 Thread Markus Kuhn
Keith Packard wrote on 2001-12-28 19:54 UTC: I should have monochrome text running in a week or so to give people a chance to experiment with performance over links of various sorts. When I've done this in other environments, I've found performance to be acceptable down to 2B ISDN speeds;

[I18n]Re: X and Supplementary Planes

2001-12-28 Thread Markus Kuhn
Roozbeh Pournader wrote on 2001-12-27 22:58 UTC: I remember the discussion here about the font naming and structure issues for non-BMP characters. But I cannot remember the outcome (and if there were oppositions). Since we are thinking about doing some work on Pango to support non-BMP

Re: [I18n]US-ASCII part of CJK TTFs served by freetype and xtt backends

2001-10-25 Thread Markus Kuhn
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Jungshik Shin wrote: JC If you desire a different behaviour, you should either try to get your JC applications to work with `-p-' fonts, or push for a ``biwidth'' `-b-' JC spacing type to be included in a future versions of the XLFD. If the answer to my two questions

Re: [I18n]xterm-158, XIM and UTF-8

2001-09-14 Thread Markus Kuhn
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Steve Swales wrote: XIM is working very well with the CSI (code-set independent) version of xterm provided by Li18nux.org (patches from IBM). It works equally well in our UTF-8 locales and our non-UTF-8 locales. Because of this (CSI), Sun will be adopting this version