Greetings Josh!
In fact lots of work has been done on this by Christian, see for example:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo
http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website
and, in beta:
http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php
May I suggest you join the
Dear Johncn,
The bssd wiki is the best thing I have seen in a while. Congrats on
what you've accomplished so far. I would love to take part in a
session next week to see a demo of what you are developing.
As for the Yupik and Inupiaq dictionaries -- they are quite nice.
Have you been in touch
I think the only obvious deficiency is the missing frame key. Without
it Sugar is much less usable.
A second issue is that the UI is designed towards a relatively small
physical display size. Using the same proportions (say, frame-width-to-
screen-size ratio) makes it appear bulky on a big
I think we'd need to know the specific points of contention. I can't imagine
which design decisions might work less well on PCs. Sugar remains
significantly easier to use than standard PC operating systems...
Christian
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Eben Eliason eben.elia...@gmail.comwrote:
]
Possibly standard PC also means standard OS, and we do know that
currently Sugar works best with the OLPC OS.
- Bert -
I agree. If you read about the founders they are parents without super
technical background.Presumably they started 6 months to a year ago.
Think about what it
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com wrote:
Thats not how Sugar was designed to be used, but it is the conditions under
which it is usually evaluated. I think this is one of our marketing
challenges.
+1
I was flummoxed my first 20 minutes with Sugar a year
Maybe the 0.84 refresh of the Sugar manual is an opportunity to address this.
-walter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thats not how Sugar was designed to be used, but it is the
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:
Maybe the 0.84 refresh of the Sugar manual is an opportunity to address
this.
I'd aim for a card or a 1 pager that helps you with your first time with
Sugar.
-walter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Sean DALY
Maybe a cartoon! With SugarBat :)
Sugar is Fun! ;)
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Caroline Meeks
carol...@solutiongrove.comwrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:
Maybe the 0.84 refresh of the Sugar manual is an opportunity to address
this.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
christianm...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we'd need to know the specific points of contention. I can't
imagine which design decisions might work less well on
Maybe it is time to pursue the card stack idea... I had circulated a
link a month or so back. If Christian could design a template, we
could let the community start making cards. We could then have various
paths through the card decks for different audiences.
-walter
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:15
I love the card idea. Walter, could you please resend the link?
The only challenge will be how and where to print the cards. Do we have a
budget for these type of expenses?
Christian
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:
Maybe it is time to pursue the
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Christian Schmidt
schm...@pentagram.com wrote:
Thanks Sean. We are in the final stages of proofing content on the betasite,
and think we will go live this weekend. Stay tuned!
Christian, I officially withdraw any reservations I had about the new site:)
I showed
Maybe related to this discussion, the people at RAP Ceibal created a
wonderful manual. Each page corresponds to one activity or topic.
Please see link (Spanish only):
http://www.impo.com.uy/descargas/manual_xo_web%20.pdf
Regards,
Gabriel
2009/2/27 Christian Marc Schmidt
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Hi IAEP,
I get this list via digest so I'm late to this topic. However, I did want to
share my experience at the OLPC booth at SCaLE this past weekend.
Caroline Meeks wrote:
Put Sugar in front of the average adult sitting alone, without any
instruction, for 20 minutes. I doubt many of them
Thanks David, I'll do that.
-Josh
David Farning wrote:
Josh,
I thought I read some where that you were interested in setting up
your own also instance.
I am leaving in the morning for a week in Amsterdam at wintercamp
followed by a few days vacation:) So, I am more disorganized than
The new landing site is up at www-test.sugarlabs.org .
Give it a shot.
We will live whenever Bernie and Christian are ready.
david
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Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually
http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/
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Slight grammatical problem with one panel on
http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php?template=pagepage=learners
Kamala reads a webpage about sharks and LEARN that shark populations are
declining. -- should be LEARNS.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:54 AM, David
David Farning wrote:
Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually
http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/
I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly,
off-putting, unnavigable, unreadable, buggy, empty of any helpful
information, and in many other ways among the
Ben, could you please let us know where you encountered any bugs?
Thanks,
Christian
On 2/27/09 11:56 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu
wrote:
David Farning wrote:
Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually
http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/
I forcefully
Please let me know if anyone else encounters this. I haven't seen it while
testing on Mac/PC systems in Firefox, Safari and IE...
Christian
On 2/27/09 12:12 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
For some reason, the first couple of times I looked at the site from
www-testing.sl.o
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt
schm...@pentagram.com wrote:
Ben, perhaps you can help us write some of the content you think is
inadequate. You are entitled to your opinion about the design, but really
what we need is constructive criticism, as many of us have
6. The elliptical text snippets are good demo / PowerPoint fodder but
don't help peolpe answer the questions I imagine people are going to
come to the site to find out. Especially since they're phrased as
statements/answers, so people with different questions have to read
each one and
Christian I apologize I've been compiling this feedback this week
perhaps I should have sent sooner
In general I like it. Although I have never liked the black background
(on the existing wiki and now on the homepage) which I found
lugubrious, I was pleasantly surprised to step into the light
Sean, thanks so much. Let me digest this and get back to you soon.
Christian
On 2/27/09 1:16 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote:
Christian I apologize I've been compiling this feedback this week
perhaps I should have sent sooner
In general I like it. Although I have never liked the
Adding to the visual problems is that I don't have Helvetica installed on my
machine. I think I'm getting the standard, ugly Arial that comes with Windows.
Perhaps we can embed a Creative Commons licensed Helvetica clone in the site?
Thanks for your feedback, Nate. Installing Helvetica is a
Some information about free/libre fonts: http://www.unifont.org
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt
schm...@pentagram.com wrote:
Adding to the visual problems is that I don't have Helvetica installed on my
machine. I think I'm getting the standard, ugly Arial that comes
In my experience, most fonts in Windows look bad anyway. I don't think
it would be worth the effort embed a helvetica clone, arial is already a
clone of helvetica. However, when firefox 3.1 comes out embedding fonts
is something to consider. There's an outstanding article on the subject
here
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote:
Hi IAEP,
...
Next weekend (not this) I will be doing a presentation about OLPC and Sugar
for the CUE (Computer Using Educators) conference in Palm Springs, CA. I
will also have a station set up in the lobby where
Generally speaking, I have to agree with Gary. I feel like I'm being
invited to a Gallery opening, rather than being encouraged to try some
software :)
I would really prefer to see something along the lines of
http://getfirefox.com/ with content links pointing at well designed Wiki
pages
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:56:52AM -0500, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote:
David Farning wrote:
Sorry there was a typo in my last email the site is actually
http://www-testing.sugarlabs.org/
I forcefully object to everything about this website. It is ugly,
off-putting, unnavigable, unreadable,
I second Michael's suggestion about a web design that echoes the Sugar
design. Think how useful this would be if carried to school servers. And
as a basis for web-served Sugar-like activities.
I have to agree with the conclusion that the test design is off-putting. It
is certainly not
Thank you, everyone, for your feedback on the test site. The goal remains to
get the site launched very soonwe¹ll work on a revised build will that will
attempt to address the main concerns raised today.
Best,
Christian
On 2/27/09 2:55 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote:
I second
Weeeh!
A new Soas-1 is out. It contains all the bug fixes that made it into
head in the last days. And you can use Wade Brainerd's fabulous Typing
Turtle to get you going in 10 finger typing - /me won already a Gold Medal.
Get it [1] when it is still sticky!
News:
Sugar
- Don't add_bundle on
There are a few bugs I've noticed on the site. First one I feel is
pretty big, but I'm a really big on usability, and it will likely only
affect a small number of users.
Disabling Javascript causes the logo to disappear. This doesn't seem to
be a problem when disabling images, but the default
Thanks Josh, we'll fix these in the next build.
Christian
On 2/27/09 3:55 PM, ,Josh williams joshcwilli...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a few bugs I've noticed on the site. First one I feel is
pretty big, but I'm a really big on usability, and it will likely only
affect a small number of
Today I visited a computer lab at a school in Boston where 3-5 year olds
(the PreK class) were using the computers in the computer lab.
The teacher tried to get them to use Kidspirations to look at and stamp bugs
but they rebelled. All they wanted to do was use KidPix.
We need a paint program
TuxPaint is very good and a good competitor to KidPix. PLEASE make it work
well on the XO and on SOAS. Anecdote: When I spent a week in a
Kindergarten with my XOs, only one of the machines had TuxPaint. (All the
rest had been upgraded to the build turning Rainbow on, and at the time I
didn't
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote:
The question is not what SL distributes. It is what SL enables. I
repeat my request for attention to managing this complex matrix. It at
least needs some organized attention on the Wiki. I don't mind who
hosts which
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
On 27 Feb 2009, at 20:57, Caroline Meeks wrote:
Today I visited a computer lab at a school in Boston where 3-5 year olds
(the PreK class) were using the computers in the computer lab.
Nice feedback. Just wanted to
Sorry I didn't notice this sooner, apparently expires at midnight CST:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5161421/dell-mini-9-is-down-to-200-for-one-day-only
Probably has something to do with the launch of the Mini 10, which appears
to have a properly-aligned top keyboard row unlike the Mini 9.
Brian
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