[IAEP] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/11 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: You mean that you cannot open that library bundle by clicking on its journal entry? Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the methods that could be used by deployments to distribute materials this way in mass would result in a journal entry

Re: [IAEP] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:02, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/11 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: You mean that you cannot open that library bundle by clicking on its journal entry? Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the methods that could be used by deployments to distribute

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The idea is that the journal would have an actions view that would be closer to what you refer to. Would contain actions that the user carried and events that happened around the user. The Journal as Sugar's documents view

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/8/17 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: I don't see where we disagree any of us OK.. so what do you suggest as the next steps? File a ticket? Start a feature page? Daniel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I don't see where we disagree any of us, so maybe I'm explaining badly myself. Let me try again. I agree that the journal should be a journal, thus primarily about actions and events and not about static pieces of data or

[IAEP] old jabber server does not work with sugar 0.84

2009-08-17 Thread Bill Kerr
A year ago one of my students built a jabber server following instructions that are now deprecated:http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd Today we tried to use it with Soas (0.84). The jabber server could see the sugar ids but collaboration didn't work. (Just to clarify collaboration does

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] (Ab)using the Journal for stuff that the user didn't do, create, or access

2009-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:52, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/17 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: I don't see where we disagree any of us OK.. so what do you suggest as the next steps? File a ticket? Start a feature page? Feature pages, I would say. We have already some design

Re: [IAEP] old jabber server does not work with sugar 0.84

2009-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 13:05, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: A year ago one of my students built a jabber server following instructions that are now deprecated: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd Today we tried to use it with Soas (0.84). The jabber server could see the sugar

[IAEP] ICTs in Education Prize: Call for nominations

2009-08-17 Thread s . boutayeb
Hi, Should the Sugar Labs apply to the next Unesco-prize for ICT in education? Seen in: ICTs in Education Prize: Call for nominations Teaching, Learning and e-Pedagogy: Teacher Professional Development for Knowledge Societies is the theme of the 2009 UNESCO-King Hamad Bin Isa Al-Khalifa Prize

Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-17 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Van

Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 17:32, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at

Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Walter Bender schrieb: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul Gutierrez Segalesr...@rieder.net.py wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Thu, Aug 13,

Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-17 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Walter Bender schrieb: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul Gutierrez

Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-17 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Walter Bender schrieb: On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Walter Bender schrieb: On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul

[IAEP] Fwd: Designing for Children - Conference, Educational Meet, Exhibition at IDC IIT Bombay

2009-08-17 Thread Sameer Verma
FYI. -- Sameer -- Forwarded message -- From: sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:18 AM Subject: Designing for Children - Conference, Educational Meet, Exhibition at IDC IIT Bombay To: olpc-in...@googlegroups.com http://www.designingforchildren.net/

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Community Book Sprint - QtoA

2009-08-17 Thread Samuel Klein
That's a good point. And there's a lot of spanish work that's been done re: handouts about sugar since then, which would bear gathering together. The net Ceibal JAM is on sep. 5, which is soon - that might be a good audience to help organize pointesr to hte latest material for such an update, if

[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-08-17

2009-08-17 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === He was guided by what he saw rather than what he wanted to believe. – Vernor Vinge 1. While I am not chasing down Turtle Art bugs, I am catching up with my summer reading. The quote from ''A Fire in the Deep'' seems a nice summary of the discussion about teaching physics on