Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-08-2009 a las 18:54 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió: P.S - Maybe a reasonable compromise on the double bind would be for me to share a small number of ideas, or to share as many ideas fit into a fixed duration conversation in a different medium? Maybe, though I don't see any

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-08-27

2009-08-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 05:30, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: 3. Bernie Innocenti and I spent a day in Barre VT with Paul Flint, Kevin Cole, Nicco Eneidi, Colin Applegate, et al. to discuss the role Sugar might play in various education initiatives in the region. Despite too

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: +1.  And after dinner we could get a laptop and write down some notes on workable management practices for blessed projects like SoaS. Get onto some coding -- it's more fun and productive than policy-ing :-) m --

[IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7 in education (See http://windows7sins.org/) imputes OLPC in complicity with Microsoft. It is disappointing that the FSF is not making any

Re: [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7 in education (See http://windows7sins.org/) imputes OLPC in complicity with Microsoft. It

Re: [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Luke Faraone
On 28/ago/2009, at 11.48, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: It's tragic how they undermine their allies' efforts in their blind zealousness. Worse than that, it's complete FUD. This is something you'd expect from MSFT, but not the FSF. The number of XOs shipped with Windows is

Re: [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote: On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 4. The recent FSF campaign condemning the use of Windows 7 in

Re: [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:08, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest ===

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 14:08, Bill Kerrbillk...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.08.2009, at 11:33, Bill Kerr wrote: n Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:20 AM,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
Is the author local to Boston? Maybe we should take him over to the GPA and show him a room full of Windows machines all running open software. Perhaps seeing it for himself will help, the authors certainly seem to care about what kids are using for their education. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:02

[IAEP] Fwd: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Physics-3

2009-08-28 Thread Gary C Martin
Just thought I'd forward this over to IAEP. (If you are running an older build of SoaS, you'll need to erase the existing Physics Activity before trying to upgrade. The older SoaS shipped with Activities installed in a non-standard place, with administrator permissions, preventing the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: Is the author local to Boston? Maybe we should take him over to the GPA and show him a room full of Windows machines all running open software.  Perhaps seeing it for himself will help, the authors certainly seem to 

[IAEP] today's SLOBs meeting/next SLOBs meeting

2009-08-28 Thread Walter Bender
We had a Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting today in #sugar-meeting. The minutes are available in the wiki (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2009-08-28). Where as the election of the board is scheduled for 2009-09-12, it would be prudent to hold our next

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

2009-08-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 26-08-2009 a las 16:47 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:18:13AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Tomeu Do you have any actionable ideas about how to work better for our users? I perceive a double bind: I have lots of ideas, but ideas are cheap and seem

[IAEP] new mailing list requested: sugar-devel-es

2009-08-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, several development groups are being formed right now in South America for developing for Sugar and we have thought that a mailing list in Spanish for developers would help all this people work together. Could we get one named sugar-devel-es with Gonzalo as the moderator? Thanks, Tomeu --

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] new mailing list requested: sugar-devel-es

2009-08-28 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi. I think this is a great opportunity to make the mail list, as some groups are starting to get momentum in Peru and Argentina , besides the actual and more mature groups on Colombia, Chile and Uruguay. Just a naming suggestion, sugar-desarrollo, instead of sugar-devel-es Rafael Ortiz

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] new mailing list requested: sugar-devel-es

2009-08-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 18:45, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrerodir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I think this is a great opportunity to make the mail list, as some groups are starting to get momentum in Peru and Argentina , besides the actual and more mature groups on Colombia, Chile and Uruguay.

Re: [IAEP] [Edu-sig] turtle in education

2009-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
We need to make sure that people in various programs can find such resources. I will Wiki your repository at Earth Treasury and Sugar Labs, and I am copying this to Stacy Reed, the Librarian Chick. Where else can we list this and other resources? Please be careful of CCs if you reply to this

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] Feedback on Launchpad

2009-08-28 Thread Bastien
Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc writes: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:17, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Cause its close.  Really what I think I'm asking for is a comment and vote functionality on Blueprints. I will forward this request to him and let you know.

[IAEP] NOW: Contributors Program Mtg! (Fri 2PM Boston time, #olpc-meeting)

2009-08-28 Thread Holt
Please join us Right Now reviewing the latest OLPC/Sugar community projects over IRC Live Chat: (2PM EDT Boston Time Friday) http://forum.laptop.org/chat Then type at bottom: /join #olpc-meeting AGENDA: * New projects libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:

Re: [IAEP] Sugar/OLPC dinner in Boston: Friday Aug 27th 20:00 (tomorrow)

2009-08-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Please, signup soonish at http://doodle.com/cgbykkm4bwbe3sr2 . It's friday night and we might end up being a large group, so it would be better if we could make a reservation before 6PM. El Thu, 27-08-2009 a las 18:53 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: A bunch of us will be gathering for a

[IAEP] draft project definition

2009-08-28 Thread David Farning
Below is a first draft project definition. It is derived from the Fedora project definition and adapted for the Sugar labs culture. david == Introduction == Sugar Labs has a large number of smart and passionate participants. These participants are often looking for new

[IAEP] OCR?

2009-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
I was at a presentation last week of Abbyy OCR software, which works on pictures taken by mobile phone cameras in more than 100 languages. The company wants to give away software (though not source code) in was that will get the company good publicity. So we are talking about using their software

[IAEP] Sugar on Ubuntu (was Re: in the nicest possible way)

2009-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
Hey, I got sugar-jhbuild to work today! On Ubuntu 9.04! Now if somebody would fix the Ubuntu Sugar packages...http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Ubuntu I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting: gconftool-2 -s

Re: [IAEP] OCR?

2009-08-28 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
I've heard good things about OpenCV http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/ though i haven't use it yet. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: I was at a presentation last week of Abbyy OCR software, which works on pictures taken by mobile

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] OCR?

2009-08-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Edward Cherlin wrote: Is there a Free Software OCR engine of adequate quality? http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/ The question is: adequate for what? (A question likely to be answered only by testing.) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [IAEP] SoaS with Rosie's Girls

2009-08-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.comwrote: On 12 Aug 2009, at 08:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:25, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: This is

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bastien
After a discussion with the FSF, they agreed the picture was not really appropriate and that the text should clearly distinguish OLPC from Sugar. They will make an update - stay tuned. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks! We'd still love for them to come by GPA just for the sheer joy of seeing an entire room of old windows machines shinning with Open Source software. Caroline On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote: After a discussion with the FSF, they agreed the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote: After a discussion with the FSF, they agreed the picture was not really appropriate and that the text should clearly distinguish OLPC from Sugar. They will make an update - stay tuned. the picture is gone but the

Re: [IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-28 Thread Bill Kerr
thanks for information, tony What I stress to my students initially is the strong underlying rationale for knowing more about SVGs. Some of the points I go over with them more than once are: - animations are fairly easy to achieve (SMIL or Synchronised Multimedia Integration Language is