Re: [IAEP] Sustainability and "ChocoToDance" / Sostenibilidad y el "ChocoBaile"

2016-04-20 Thread Laura Vargas
Oh I forgot the link! Ups! Olvide el enlace: https://www.chocotodance.com/ Sorry and blessings / Lo siento y bendiciones 2016-04-21 13:33 GMT+08:00 Laura Vargas : > [Español abajo] > > Hello All, > > Lately I been dedicating a lot of time thinking in a sustainability

[IAEP] Sustainability and "ChocoToDance" / Sostenibilidad y el "ChocoBaile"

2016-04-20 Thread Laura Vargas
[Español abajo] Hello All, Lately I been dedicating a lot of time thinking in a sustainability model to propose to finance/grant Active Community members. I believe that with some funds, a lot of collaboration and a bit of creativity this task can get accomplished. I would like to share with

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Tony Anderson
At the suggestion of several participants in this thread, I have created a 'feature-like' description of a proposed 'Lion activity' at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity. There seems to a concensus that this is the best way to proceed on this discussion. Tony On 04/21/2016 01:54 AM,

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Wed, 2016-04-20 at 10:34 +1000, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 04:20:49PM +0100, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > It seems this conversation has gone a long way from wiki gardening :) > > > > My feeling is that the wiki does not serve _New_to_Sugar_ users > >

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-20 Thread Iain Brown Douglas
On Tue, 2016-04-19 at 20:35 -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 19 April 2016 at 19:01, Iain Brown Douglas > wrote: > No I didn't try it, but it's not markdown, I think. > > > http://lab.hakim.se/reveal-js has markdown support, seems to have even > more

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 19:24, Chris Leonard wrote: > At the peril of actually discussing Wiki gardening on this thread, > I've created a new wiki page to catch some areas that might deserve a > little special attention.

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
At the peril of actually discussing Wiki gardening on this thread, I've created a new wiki page to catch some areas that might deserve a little special attention. https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Wiki_Team/Wiki_Gardening_Weekend_2016 Please feel free to drop anything of relevance on this page cjl

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 13:45, Chris Leonard wrote: > A hypothetical Translate Activity would be a > logical extension of the Sugar HIG concept of showing source code and > have substantial potential ot reach an even wider audience than we do > currently and by implementing

[IAEP] Fwd: Sugar Labs' governance policies; stipend for Devin (was: Re: Fwd: Re: SLOBs approval needed for Bender expenses of $1,389.29 for Constructionalism 2016)

2016-04-20 Thread Adam Holt
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Tony Sebro" Date: Apr 20, 2016 1:29 PM Subject: Sugar Labs' governance policies; stipend for Devin (was: Re: Fwd: Re: SLOBs approval needed for Bender expenses of $1,389.29 for Constructionalism 2016) To: "Adam Holt"

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 20/04/16 a las 01:15, Chris Leonard escribió: >> Such PO pre-conversion services are provided upon request and offered >> where appropriate as are the complementary re-conversion and upload >> services. >

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 20 April 2016 at 10:15, Chris Leonard wrote: >> >> >> We strongly encourage suitable licensing and attempt to use what leverage >> we have (e.g. to host on ASLO or not) to nudge people in the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 20/04/16 a las 01:15, Chris Leonard escribió: > Such PO pre-conversion services are provided upon request and offered > where appropriate as are the complementary re-conversion and upload > services. Ideally we would have a proper Translate Activity that would work directly with git (even

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 20.04.2016, at 18:24, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I understand that in 2016, Scratch has faded away, and Pharo has taken over >> active development. I saw they rewrote all the Apache parts. > > Pharo has forked, yes, but Squeak is very much alive. Pharo is just better at >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
Laura, Certainly. Most of the discussion so far has been in a context of exchanging some very basic information about how i18n/L10n works in the Sugar context that could easily have been done on an open forum (although repetitive for many), but the lessons learned or conclusions reached will

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Laura Vargas
Dear Samson, As your helper in making this proposal I must insist and will help that we continue the discussion about your proposal development openly -only- with cc to the Committe. SLOBs, Localization List and IAEP. It will be an example for others to follow and therefore it's

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 12:15, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > You’re confusing Scratch with Squeak. > Yes, I meant to refer to Squeak, not Scratch; I hadn't got around to looking into Scratch > Scratch came with its own license that was not GPL compatible. They’ve > since

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-04-20 21:33 GMT+08:00 Chris Leonard : > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > (removed every cc but ieap) > > > > On 20 April 2016 at 02:15, Chris Leonard > wrote: > >> > >> As a practical matter,

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Bert Freudenberg
> On 20.04.2016, at 18:06, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hmm. I thought Scratch became libre when Apple released its parts under > Apache, which predated Sugar? You’re confusing Scratch with Squeak. Scratch came with its own license that was not GPL compatible. They’ve since

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to decide how / when to share it with the wider community. It is for the SLOB to determine the how / when of discussing the proposal. I am confident that all details

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi! > > Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else > happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided > on at the next SLOB meeting? > > Samson, some more questions

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided on at the next SLOB meeting? Samson, some more questions below: On 6 April 2016 at 08:00, samson goddy wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:09, Walter Bender wrote: > I thought we moved all of Sugar core to GPLv3-or-later. I will look for > the thread. > >> Please do :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-20 15:47:33) > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > > > What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? > > > > Sugar Labs

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
On 20 April 2016 at 10:15, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > > > What are the

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-04-20 15:47:33) > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > > says > > What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? > > Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives within a > culture of freedom

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > says > > What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? > > Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi > > > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F > says > > What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? > > Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives

[IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/FAQ#What_are_the_principles_that_guide_Sugar_Labs.3F says What are the principles that guide Sugar Labs? Sugar Labs subscribes to principle that learning thrives within a culture of freedom of expression, hence it has a natural affinity with the free

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > (removed every cc but ieap) > > On 20 April 2016 at 02:15, Chris Leonard wrote: >> >> As a practical matter, full-time internet connectivity is not required >> for effective L10n work. > > > I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
(removed every cc but ieap) On 20 April 2016 at 02:15, Chris Leonard wrote: > As a practical matter, full-time internet connectivity is not required > for effective L10n work. > I agree, and I think that generally more can be done to make "Sugar On A Stick" into

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 20 April 2016 at 08:59, Chris Leonard wrote: > Were it my proposal, I would be more than happy to do so, but it is > not. I think it is a matter for the proposer and the SLOB to make > that publication determination. > Sure :) > I will be creating suitable

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Chris Leonard
Were it my proposal, I would be more than happy to do so, but it is not. I think it is a matter for the proposer and the SLOB to make that publication determination. I will be creating suitable structure on the wiki for templates and yes, proposals in development, but we are still feeling our

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
(removed all direct emails, only using iaep list) Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 01:39, Chris Leonard wrote: > I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been > presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to > decide how / when to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread samson goddy
> From: cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:24:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs > To: d...@lab6.com > CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; s...@unleashkids.org; > sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongo...@gmail.com; > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org;