Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi You mean the https://kidswrite.org blog? :) On 13 June 2016 at 21:47, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote: > I'll be printing a poster, which I can put on my blog linked to > planet.laptop.org if I figure out how to format it so it displays properly > on a screen. I plan to write up my results in a forma

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 13 June 2016 at 22:06, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > I do not believe we would get significant new traction by trying to sell > XO-1s. Please enumerate why you think this. Would XO-4s be any better? > If we truly are going to force end of support in 2020, we should be > having the develope

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Having thought about this a bit more since this morning, I believe the best course of action would be to ask the recycler to directly donate the XO-1s to one or more projects which already accept them on a donation basis. These include the Columbus School for Girls (http://csgolpc.weebly.com/ ), Un

Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-06-13 Thread Sora Edwards-Thro
I'll be printing a poster, which I can put on my blog linked to planet.laptop.org if I figure out how to format it so it displays properly on a screen. I plan to write up my results in a formal paper once we get the data from the pilot concluding in June. On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:39 PM, Dave Cros

Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sora I'm curious about your presentation that is coming up in a couple of weeks - will your slides be available online? :) On 31 March 2016 at 12:31, Sora Edwards-Thro wrote: > I'll be there presenting research on a literacy project with XOs in Haiti. > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Dav

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 17:16, Sean DALY wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar feedback? > > Students not using their native language, teachers at far lower level, > daunting infrastructure difficulties which mean limi

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar feedback? Students not using their native language, teachers at far lower level, daunting infrastructure difficulties which mean limited laptop time, very limited connectivity... believ

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 13:52, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > I think if you tell the sponsor you want a stash to sell them, they'll be > more than happy to keep them to sell for themselves. I doubt it - due to the labour costs you describe below :) > What Walter and I are getting at is that is servicing

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I think if you tell the sponsor you want a stash to sell them, they'll be more than happy to keep them to sell for themselves. What Walter and I are getting at is that is servicing & reshipping 172 XOs (even if they come with 254 chargers + extra batteries) takes a lot more work than you may reali

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 04:19, Sam Parkinson wrote: > $100 seems steep for an XO1. We could also offer a 100% buy-back scheme to get them back if they aren't used regularly, and various discounts up to 100% for developers who want to pay $0 but are actively contributing. > In the USA, apparently less

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi There also seem to be a lot of old toughbooks floating around for cheap, so if we are going to give up on the XO-1 this year, perhaps those might be the 'weapon of choice' moving forwards http://www.ebay.com/itm/PANASONIC-TOUGHBOOK-CF-C1-LAPTOP-COMPUTER-i5-NICE-M26-LCD-SCREEN-AND-KEYBOARD/3615

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 11:54, Sean DALY wrote: > What duplication? An island fishing community with a single one-room > school is quite a different place from an American classroom I think there's probably more education going on in the former, but what do you see as the difference in terms of sugar

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Its a big market. OK, if I understand you correctly, your idea is to recruit Sugar developers by selling them XO-1s individually? This would be more efficient than engaging a computer science professor with a class, supporting an inner-

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > OLPC France has managed the Nosy Komba, Madagascar microdeployment for > years > > now in partnership with other NGOs and the learnings have been fantastic. > > Great! No need to duplicate that :) What duplication? An island fishing co

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Walter Bender
Off the top of my head, the bulk chargers do 10 batteries at a time. I have two to donate to a large order. -walter On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 13 June 2016 at 04:07, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam > > wrote: >

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 13 June 2016 at 04:07, Sean DALY wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam > wrote: >> >> Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to >> make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? > > If proceeds from the sale(s) benefit the organizatio

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 June 2016 at 07:05, Walter Bender wrote: > Google just donated 8000 chromebooks to the X-Prize. Maybe we could try to > go that route? Well, are we supporting XO-1s in the next 3 releases or not? If we are, I think people get EXCITED about 'the little green $100 laptop' and even if these u

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Walter Bender
I have to say I with Samuel Greenfeld on this one. There are lots of potential issues with these machines (depending upon how they have been stored and maintained.) They could well have dead batteries (both the main battery and the battery for the RTC). They most certainly will need an investment i

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
FOB (Freight on Board) means that the responsibility for customs fees, shipping charges, etc. belongs to the buyer. XOs directly purchased from OLPC historically had similar terms. The shipping calculator on that listing can give you a rough idea of what it would cost to get to you in the US (aro

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
they mean loading dock i.e. where you send the truck Sean On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says: > > > Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup and > insurance from our dock > > Is that referring to

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sam Parkinson
Dave, I don't frequent EBay listings, but it says: > Customer is responsible for arrangement of freight trucking pickup and insurance from our dock Is that referring to the charging docks or the palette of laptops? Obviously this is a small detail that doesn't effect the discussion, but it

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Selling a small batch of hardware is just a way of promoting our software Agreed, excellent opportunity to communicate the benefits of Sugar. Sean ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 7:07 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > individual units regularly > clear $100 each > If these are functioning units, I support the idea, but perhaps what should be done is to try to keep them together in a single microdeployment by partnering with another nonprofit, a sponsor

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sam Parkinson
Hi Dave, They are XO1s... does Sugar run OK on the XO1? $100 seems steep for an XO1. In the USA, apparently less than $100 yeilds you a "tablet" from "Walmart" (can't vouch for anything... just searched it on the net) [1]. Maybe sell it for less? Or try $100 and see if we need to go lower?

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Sean DALY
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam < ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to > make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? If proceeds from the sale(s) benefit the organization and not individuals, ther

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-13 Thread Chihurumnaya Ibiam
Hi, i think this is a good idea, but i don't think buying and selling to make profit is part of SL's agenda. I'm i wrong? On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qty-172-OLPC-One-Laptop-Per-Child-XO-1-w-7-5-TFT-256MB-RAM-1024KB-ROM-/262478690514