[IAEP] and thanks for all the fish

2017-04-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
and leadership topics - then I would very much appreciate to join that. I will continue to maintain Sugar packaging for Debian. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reu

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] motion for a new mission statement

2017-04-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
lieve more qualified and encourage them to update it. Since it is technical pages, reaching out at the IAEP list won't work. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reu

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Google Code In wrap up

2017-01-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
sted. A third bridge that looks promising is Biboumi. We tested only briefly so far but it looks like it properly represents each participant without a visible bot in-between or dublicated nicks. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Webs

Re: [IAEP] Meet the Pinebook, a $89 ARM Laptop

2016-12-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ecifically? From an Open Hardware perspective, the TERES-I looks more promising to me: https://www.olimex.com/Products/DIY%20Laptop/ https://olimex.wordpress.com/tag/laptop/ From an available-at-shelves-to-buy perspective, Pinebook and TERES-I seems on par to me. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Debian complaints

2016-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
g its code and announcing releases. What is needed is people able and interested in running Debian and testing the packages - and people helping create packages - for Debian. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-23 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
alk about "at all" but "not even boot": > On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk> wrote: >>> I think the situation has changed? Can't the rpi3 run mainline >>> kernel? >> >> No, it cannot *boot* without non-

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ributed from Debian! ...or don't - but then call it something else than "free", please: Consumers watering down the terms is far more confusing than Microsoft inventing "shared source". - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40

Re: [IAEP] Which cheap 2016 Laptop should be our reference?

2016-06-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
just mention as a data point. - Jonas ¹ Yes, Debian + some non-free parts work, but that is not Debian. -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: sig

Re: [IAEP] 172 XO-1s for $24 each (+ freight) $4,000 total

2016-06-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 15:14:32) > On 16 June 2016 at 09:16, Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk> wrote: >> Quoting Dave Crossland (2016-06-16 14:48:56) >>> I think this is a really important discussion for the wider >>> community, as it r

Re: [IAEP] "Windows Is Coming"

2016-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
"full Crouton system" in that article? That implies you either get scary warnings and loud beeps at boot with super easy accidental wipe of your whole system, or need to tinker with the infamous screw. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [IAEP] (no subject)

2016-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ill confused, then when you ask about it be cautious what you remove when quoting¹ - Jonas ¹ I am no fan of fullquotes - stripping parts irrelevant for moving the conversation forward makes great sense, but stripping too much is not helpful. -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt

Re: [IAEP] (no subject)

2016-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
ro, and you didn't. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ IAEP -- It'

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-22 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
olete debian-olpc). - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ IAEP -- I

Re: [IAEP] Windows is Coming

2016-05-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
t Free Software. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature ___ IA

Re: [IAEP] 3 questions about Sugar Desktop Copyleft

2016-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
g". Liberal license is effective when code is a) reused in source form (e.g. forked for a BSD-based project), and b) if being granted an alternative license for the otherwise copyleft-licensed code. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 4084

Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
! And freely licensed! I am curious about sources for the book - are those freely and openly available too? It seems you do not mention source location, neither at the web page nor inside the PDF. The final URL in the pdf - http://software.booki.cc - seems to not work. Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas

Re: [IAEP] It's a book!

2012-12-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Chris Leonard (2012-12-21 20:04:37) On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Wauw - really exciting! And freely licensed! I am curious about sources for the book

Re: [IAEP] Code of Conduct

2012-04-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, - Jonas [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2012/04/msg00073.html -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [IAEP] eduJAM! and 1-to-1 week: information and scholarships

2012-04-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
a LOT going on there. I am wondering: Would Debian packaging of Sugar be of any relevancy there? Regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] GPL non compliance?

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
about this detailed instruction: 1) Buy a non-locked computer 2) Copy everything over to that other machine 3) Exercise all your rights there Et voilá, GPLv3 not violated. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, and then execute the freedoms to edit the code on that other host? - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-26 at 03:37pm, John Watlington wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: How is that a violation of GPL license? I believe they do have full access to all source code - just is not allowed to execute it (conveniently) on the hardware it resides

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GPL non compliance? was Re: GPL non-compliance, was Re: GPLv3

2011-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-26 at 04:28pm, John Watlington wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 11-04-26 at 03:37pm, John Watlington wrote: On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Tivoization - as I understand it - is when the hardware locks the code in a way

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
and GPLv3, and passive ones like BSD-3-clause and Expat (a.k.a. MIT). I have very much enjoyed following this discussion. Thanks for the well reflected arguments on both sides! Regards, and good luck with this process, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
of transparency. Noone else has a concern about that apparently, which is (hopefully) comforting... - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
similar volunteer efforts. This brings (at least) two disadvantages: 1. Increasing the gap between developers and users. 2. Encumbering the project with (more) discrete communiction. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Cristoph and others, On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04:08AM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Am 17.05.2010 23:50, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Farning wrote: One consideration is that these deployment specific issues are often boring -- stuff like

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. :-) Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.88.0 Stable Release

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 04:32:59PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 12:35:20PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: 0.88 is the latest version of Sugar, consisting of Glucose, the base system environment

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Sur] Presiden te Chavez, computadoras para niños

2010-04-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
not be shy but subscribe to our team mailinglist and let's discuss how you can contribute to that packaging effort. More info at your own wiki here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Debian Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar

2010-02-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, in my opinion. If you meant something else, I apologize: please clarify. NB! Please cc me directly on responses to this email: recent changes to sugarlabs.org DNS has has caused me to get unsubscribed from all lists. Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet

Re: [IAEP] !! Let Squeakland know you like Etoys

2009-10-09 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
(to respect privacy) so the numbers are in no way accurate, but may interest you anyway: http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=squeak-vm Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 03:24:23AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 06:49:00PM -0500, David Farning wrote: 2. manually sync /debian from git.debian.org to git.gnewsense.org 3. do final work in git.gnewsense.org Is Alioth such a cruel place to work together? Is it me

[IAEP] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi all, As subject says, Glucose (and some of Fructose) 0.84.0 and 0.85.7 is now packaged for Debian! More info at http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Debian . - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
system, there is really only one sane solution: Keep the activities backwards compatible! Hope you will engage more than just fork off, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 12:43:25AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 00:32, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: As subject says, Glucose (and some of Fructose) 0.84.0 and 0.85.7 is now packaged for Debian! More info at http://wiki.debian.org/Sugar and http

Re: [IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. Don't know if it uses SMIL for its animations, but this one looks interesting - perhaps even for Activity design?: http://code.google.com/p/altcanvas/wiki/InkFace Recent releases are written in Python, using pycairo and pygame. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf

Re: [IAEP] Sugar packaging in Squeeze, Karmic

2009-08-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-olpc-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Kind regards, and thanks for your interest in our FLOSS contributions, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before

Re: [IAEP] Sugar packaging in Squeeze, Karmic

2009-08-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
there) Kind regards, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: [IAEP] Looking for very old hardware

2009-08-08 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
speed drives as Apple used back then, berfore the Superdrives). ...also, I live in Denmark and wouldn't recommend sending those old floppies by snail mail... Good luck! - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 STP cross-posting marketing info, please! Great info, but not educational nor geeky, so irrelevant for those lists IMHO. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

[IAEP] Unsubscribing from IAEP (Was: picked up by [some media])

2009-06-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
welcome to cc me any posts that you suspect might be of direct interest to me - and perhaps you even want my opinion on. Good luck with the ever more succesful Sugarlabs project! - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk

Re: [IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
thread was (important but) sidetracking. As I see it, Fructose activities are non-hackable activities that are distributed to all learners. So ideally there should be none, and most certainly the amount should be kept small. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og

Re: [IAEP] Soas backstory and summary was Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

2009-06-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
in promotion would encourage friendly competition among distributions. It would also leave room for other distributions promoting their alternative products as SoaS as well, if they feel that it fits the description of currently best optimized for Sugar ;-) Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas

[IAEP] the SoaS term (was: Press release flurry planning...)

2009-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
on that challenge yourself. There is plenty to do that is more Sugar-specific than dealing with boot loaders, kernels and (oh my) security bugs throughout thousands(!) of tiny little parts of what is contained in a fullblown distribution. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard

Re: [IAEP] the SoaS term (was: Press release flurry planning...)

2009-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [IAEP] the SoaS term (was: Press release flurry planning...)

2009-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to encourage distribution makers to use. Sugarlabs makes Sugar. And defines terms for what they make. Let each distribution define terms for their works. That is freedom. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

2009-06-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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[IAEP] Fructose = Sugar essentials (was: ASLO Suggestion)

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. P.P.S. If you read this far, it is most likely because I did not include a few miles of dead quotes of earlier mails. :-P - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

Re: [IAEP] the FOSS brand and Sugar Labs

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Free and Open Source Software. FLOSS means Free/Libre and Open Source Software. The first can be misunderstood as free beer, the last one can't. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask

Re: [IAEP] the FOSS brand and Sugar Labs

2009-06-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
suspect laissez-faire is the wrong term for non-monopolist capitalists :-) Those-in-FLOSS-who-favor-the-smooth-sound-of-Open-Source-over-the-potent-sound-of-Free-Software! - Jonas Freedom fighter - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Getting data about the upgrading older machines and SoaS responsiveness.

2009-06-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
: invading - potentially taking over, accidentally or on purpose, the computers Or did I misunderstand the kind of term you had in mind? Kind regards, - jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely

Re: [IAEP] mail lost in the ether for 2 days

2009-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
in a spam filter on your side, or simply overlooked. Kind regards, Jonas (one of our unknown number of list moderators/admins) - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private

[IAEP] LWN article about Activities

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi, Today's LWN has a feature about Activities: It is a paid service, allowing sharing of individual articles, so here it is: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/334911/cf451c615cfdaa33/ Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
screening process which causes delays and risk of lost emails. Kind regards, Jonas (one of only two list moderators - more volunteers appreciated!) - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:18:35AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:58:17AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Tomeu Vizoso writes: I think it's very

[IAEP] changed list admin password

2009-05-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:15:22PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 15:42, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:23:20PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: 2009/5/28 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk Please

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] idea for consolidated Sugar feedback + a newname for our users

2009-05-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
into a not-only-for-learning for Kids disturbing. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] idea for consolidated Sugar feedback + a new name for our users

2009-05-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
/Illustrators. Authors → Packagers → Distributors → Deployers → Administrators → Learners (arrgh - too long to fit a single line :-( ) ...and alongside all of those are Supporters, which includes Fundraisers, Managers and Inspirators. Regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og

Re: [IAEP] rEFIT for Mac Boot of SoaS - Not working for me. Anyone been successful?

2009-05-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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[IAEP] PowerPC SoaS

2009-05-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
libraries will fail. Apart from that, I can't think of other obstacles at the moment. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP

Re: [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. In other words, it may be illegal to publish SoaS as pre-blessed images. :-( - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:45:21PM -0300, Andrea Mangiatordi wrote: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Beware that if blessing is similar to that of classic MacOS, then it includes adding a small binary piece that is *not* free software. In other

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-21 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
on the other start up options. Hopefully, yes. See Troubleshooting at this page: http://refit.sourceforge.net/doc/c1s3_remove.html - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [IAEP] VIA C3 based laptop

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 09:40:53PM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 08:35:05PM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: I have got a laptop with a VIA C3 cpu. This needs

Re: [IAEP] VIA C3 based laptop

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:10:27AM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On the other hand, if you want up-to-date Sugar in a simple way, then I have no recommendation for you: I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
is the preferred environment over e.g. the terminal or some virtual (X11-based or not) environment. Hope that clarifies (and feel free to disagree with my judgements!). - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
? Kind regards, - Jonas ...using rEFIt on my laptop for quite some time :-) - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. does not disappear when the CD or USB key is removed), and in case of error you cannot start your old MacOS (you may need an original MacOS X install DVD, or perhaps even need some other rescue tool!). Replace Linux above with SoaS if that makes more sense to you. - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [IAEP] VIA C3 based laptop

2009-05-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
driver, but Sugar is not currently up-to-date. - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on LTSP

2009-04-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
your_first_machine sugar-emulator Kind regards, - Jonas Debian (not Ubuntu) developer - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

[IAEP] Updated backports of Jabber server for Debian

2009-04-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
be installed manually on top of my packages, and when packaged officially for Debian I intend to include it. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [IAEP] Anyone gotten a 4GB or greater USB stick to work for Sugar on a Stick?

2009-04-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
exactly they do in comparison. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] meetup in Europe

2009-04-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
!), then debconf is certainly recommended to attend! Go register here: http://debconf9.debconf.org/register.xhtml Please beware that deadline for sponsorship applications is in a few days! Would certainly be great with a Sugar gathering at Debconf! Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral

2009-04-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
adoption if first working with distributions on shaping/polishing patches. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 09:52:00PM -0400, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: which made me assume that I was only moderator, not admin. I've reset the admin password for iaep and sent it to Jonas; anyone else

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. ...or actual spam abusing his email address, flagged as spam. Please, list moderators, avoid flagging senders as spam: Leave it to admins to apply regex-based filters for senders that can only be spammers. Do we have any list moderators at all that are not list admins too now? - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [IAEP] updating the Sugar manual for 8.4 release

2009-03-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
for it. Especially if it ends up in documentation. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [IAEP] Topics deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
? One fact is that Sugar is unique in the computing industry in its targeting kids globally - and especially poor ones (some of which is suffering from the consequences of people and mindset like that of Coenraad)! - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45

Re: [IAEP] Topics deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
powerful and base even our marketing on facts? One fact is that Sugar is unique in the computing industry in its targeting kids globally - and especially poor ones (some of which is suffering from the consequences of people and mindset like that of Coenraad)! - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 10:09:51AM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:40, Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel

Re: [IAEP] Topics deliverables from Marketing IRC meeting 03-03-2009: Sugar 8.4 launch date set!

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
to our concept, and pick a specific one for this current release, instead, to diminish the unfriendly number to end users. Proposal: Sugar 0.82 Chocolate - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely

[IAEP] Nick name for Sugar 0.84: van Houten

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:54:57PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 06.03.2009, at 13:49, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Proposal: Sugar 0.82 Chocolate Nice idea, but it's not google-compatible. Rather unlikely that sugar chocolate will lead one

Re: [IAEP] Nick name for Sugar 0.84: van Houten

2009-03-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:01:19PM -0500, Kevin Cole wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:14, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: So I now propose instead to name Sugar releases _indirectly_ after great sugar-related personalities, and specifically

[IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel - - End forwarded message - - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 01:40:21PM -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Yes, at iaep it got discarded while at -devel it only got quarantined. Ed's e-mail address had been added by a list admin

Re: [IAEP] [iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org: Auto-discard notification]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 04:26:36PM -0500, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: That would be my first place to look too, for this particular kind of issue. If I was allowed, that is. :-P You're already an admin

Re: [IAEP] Activities Under Emulation

2009-03-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. But not Sugar itself. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [IAEP] Activities Under Emulation

2009-03-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. 64bit PPC-like Cell hardware with odd X11 driver)? Or did you mean classic (i.e. IBM-compatible 32bit-comptible) PCs? - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep

Re: [IAEP] Design ideas for a.sl.o and sugarlabs

2009-02-28 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
this, but that's harder to do) - Jonas Your mailinglist clerk - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84 Release Candidate 1 (0.83.5)

2009-02-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
(which is a derivative of Fedora, I believe). You (among others, and quite understandably so!) seem to confuse the Desktop developed by Sugarlabs with the distributions including it. Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Sucrose then sugar 0.86 can declare both features sugar 0.86 and gst-speech 2 (assuming the new implementation is backwards compatible but adds a few new features too), and sugar-speech is no longer needed. - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
, until a newer upstream version can replace it. Simple rule for end users: Please file bugreports to your distribution, against any software packages from them(!) you experience problems with. Such bugreports are a valuable contribution, and are highly appreciated! - Jonas - -- * Jonas

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David (and others), [quotes reordered to not use TOFU[1] ] On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:38:20AM +0100, David Van Assche wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:16:19PM +0100, David

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on?certin platforms

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
the packaging routines as already drafted at the Alioth OLPC list, then it is not sponsoring but ordinary package maintainance. - Jonas [1] Others are welcome too, it is just that noone has stepped up! - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not?on?certin platforms

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 03:37:15PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: please relax... Please stop posting noise that can be mistaken as invitation to break what I build. On Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If someone (me[1

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
distributor aware of any issues you experience! Kind regards, - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU

Re: [IAEP] [Debian-olpc-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-12 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 02:43:24AM +0100, David Van Assche wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:09:02PM -0500, Luke Faraone wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d

Re: [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
. (trying, like Ubuntu, to be ahead of its upstreams cause complex problems when upstreams then take a different path than was guessed) - Jonas - -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before

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