As a member of the Sugar Labs community I find it quite frustrating that
such basic information doesn't seem to be readily available (at least
not on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Finance where one would expect to
find it).
Yes, it is encouraging that Rubén's and Aleksey's recent funding
On 04/29/2011 03:26 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
Any updates on this front?
Seeing how time critical particularly Sebastian's request is I think it
makes sense for a decision to be reached quickly here.
Thanks for pinging on this Christoph. Here's a status update - we are
blocking on...
We've got 3 outstanding tickets on
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=fundingrequestorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=componentcol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=milestone
- time to discuss.
Please reply to the
We've got 3 outstanding tickets on
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=acceptedstatus=assignedstatus=closedstatus=newstatus=reopenedcomponent=fundingrequestorder=prioritycol=idcol=summarycol=componentcol=statuscol=typecol=prioritycol=milestone
- time to discuss.
Please reply to the
meeting, I'd like to propose this motion:
MOTION: Mel Chua is given autonomy on spending decisions for refunding
travel expenses and purchasing things up to a maximum cost of $x per
request, within a budget limit of $y.
Where `x' could be something in the range $1500-$3000 and `y' depends on
what
For the olpc San Francisco bay community summit last year Adam Holt
setup a way for people to make donations to cover DSD's flights; I
think Adam used Paypal.
Can we do something similar to help get Sebastian to EduJAM?
I see no reason why not - trying to figure out how this
Sean,
Your question about whether we could buy a phone number for incoming SL
calls came up today - we're trying to figure out how much money we have,
exactly, but also need some more information from you on what's needed
before we can make a call. Could you answer these questions, please?
At the SLOBs meeting a few hours ago, I was drafted (volunteered? was
asked? some willing combination of the two) to sketch out a basic
finance process, since we have a couple requests for funding in the
pipeline and don't really know how to handle them yet.
Here it is.
For the record, the two funding requests we have right now are:
* a phone number (requested by Sean Daly) -
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2011-April/003255.html
I translated this into a ticket so people could see what the format
looked like:
So, I found out yesterday that a college class in South Carolina is
getting its students into FOSS development for all of their assignments
- and that a good number of them have been working on older Sugar
Activities as their contribution. Awesomesauce.
Check out the student blogs at
We will be holding a Sugar Labs oversight meeting tomorrow (Thursday,
10 Feb.) at 3 PM EST (20 UTC) in #sugar-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
I have a medical appointment that's going to get me back to a computer
around 4pm, so I'll be out as well, but I agree with both of Bernie's
points below.
On 12/09/2010 04:22 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote:
Since we could not meet today (yet) and I have to leave,
I propose we postpone todays SLOBs meeting for tomorrow,
Friday 10th, 10am EST.
That would work for me.
--Mel
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Yes. #sugar-meeting as usual.
I'll have to bow out of this meeting, as I'm both out and hosed all this
week getting ready with my team for a gigantic presentation - my
apologies, and congratulations to the newcomers. :)
--Mel
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I just pushed this to Planet Sugarlabs:
http://blog.melchua.com/2010/09/16/get-sugar-instructions-newcomers-needed-for-usability-testing/
Short version is that Walter's come up with a new design for our
Downloads page - http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter/Get_Sugar -
and needs feedback on
On 07/12/2010 07:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
El Sun, 11-07-2010 a las 21:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:
This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the
As promised, I kicked our agenda items forward. Turns out you can do a
lot without needing to vote. :)
Our meetbot does some truly awful meeting minutes formatting, but here's
the summary of
http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.minutes.20100711_0446.html:
* Local Labs TM applications
(from the last SLOBs agenda-kickin',
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011343.html)
Question from Kevin Mark: Who should be the deciding organization for
who determines what version of sugar is used in the field?
I was confused about the hierarchy of who should be the deciding
From the last SLOBs agenda-kicking,
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-July/011343.html:
What are the rights and responsibilities of a SL project? (This should
be a simple answer, but we need to agree on the same simple answer.)
Right now, we have
This is fine with me, but we never formally approved the earlier
requests due to a lack of policy at the time. I had forwarded three
requests (Chile, Argentina, and Paraguay) to the list with the subject
[TM REQUEST]. Not sure why these requests are considered lost. I'd
like to formally
be
better on this page :)
-walter
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote:
El Fri, 25-06-2010 a las 12:21 -0400, Mel Chua escribió:
Continuing our move discussion to list adventures...
Bernie brought up an OOo4Kids request to display our logo. Tomeu and I
I'm writing this from the SLOBs agenda time, where Tomeu and I (and
anyone else who joins us) are following the suggestion of pushing these
discussions to list so we can make these decisions asynchronously.
We have trademark usage applications from the following places:
* Colombia
*
Continuing our move discussion to list adventures...
Bernie brought up an OOo4Kids request to display our logo. Tomeu and I
were unable to find the original text of the request - what is the
project asking for? We're blocking until we get that text - does anyone
know where to find it?
A
The last item on today's agenda was the motion that the Fedora 11 with
Sugar 0.88 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 be a new official project.
Details, again:
* It is sponsored jointly by Paraguay Educa and Activity Central,
coordinated by Bernie Innocenti and hosted by the Sugar Labs
We didn't have a SLOBs meeting today officially, because of non-quorum,
but some of us were in-channel and got through the agenda as best we could.
The full log is up at
http://me.etin.gs/sugar-meeting/sugar-meeting.log.20100625_1103.html.
I've added the log to
Do we have a meeting at our usual time of 11am EST in #sugar-meeting?
We've got quite the agenda to go through:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Minutes#Agenda_items
I'll be there, and logging/thinking-through some of this stuff myself,
and doing what I can to work on it, regardless
Walter Bender wrote:
I am just stepping off a plane in Asunción tomorrow morning at our
regular meeting time. Would 22UTC work instead?
Regarding the agenda, I'm hoping we can vote on the outstanding TM requests:
Colombia
Paraguay Educa
Argentina
Chile
Peru
DC
-walter
On 06/17/2010
Can someone queue up motions for those requests, with reference links to
the original proposals online so we can get through them efficiently? If
I have time after lunch tomorrow, I'll do it, but I am not sure if I shall.
I added the requests to the agenda for tomorrow,
On 06/17/2010 06:06 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Plus the OOo4Kids request to display our logo. Perhaps we could also
vote to pre-approve the entire class of requests such as can I put
Sugar Labs logo in my partners/acknowledgments page?, as they are very
frequent and hard to abuse for bad
On 06/17/2010 10:28 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
At the next meeting, I would like to propose the Fedora 11 with Sugar
0.88 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5 as a new official project.
It is sponsored jointly by Paraguay Educa and Activity Central,
coordinated by me and hosted by the Sugar Labs
Some of you may have noticed some new faces in #sugar - we (Walter
Bender, Peter Robinson, and I) are hanging out with a group of
professors (mostly from the Worcester area) who are in town this week
for http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE, a workshop for
learning how to get their
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote:
How did the Mirabelle release cycle go? We're gearing up for making
v4, and want to know what went well and what could have been better -
everything from technical to deployment to documentation to process
sustainability
Reminder: This meeting is tomorrow! (Or depending on your timezone,
today.) Monday, May 31, 1900 UTC in #sugar-meeting. Send notes and
comments if you can't make it, but we hope to see you there!
--Mel
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote:
How did the Mirabelle
We called off today's SLOBs meeting because of attendance count -
technically we could have made quorum, but we wanted to have more people
present for the final trademark discussion, so we will have that next
week. SLOBs take heed and please attend!
We're 99% of the way there - Sean just needs
voting on by
around Monday?
--A!
Mel Chua wrote:
We called off today's SLOBs meeting because of attendance count -
technically we could have made quorum, but we wanted to have more
people present for the final trademark discussion, so we will have
that next week. SLOBs take heed and please
We appear to not have a SLOBs meeting today, presumably because people
will be in town on Tuesday and we plan on talking then.
When and where on Tuesday are we meeting? Do we want to transcribe/log
that conversation so that remotees can take part, or at least see what
happened? (I volunteer to
Thanks, Tomeu - I forgot to add IAEP to the initial list. Transparency w00t!
iaep: for context, we've been trying to figure out how to resolve the
long-standing trademark issue, and we're going to be trying a call and
then (next month) a (still hypothetical - not 100% planned) face-to-face
SoaS engineering just proposed a major change-in-direction for the
upcoming (Mirabelle) release. See
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/soas/2010-March/000906.html for more
information - we're asking people to continue discussion on that thread,
so please reply there (rather than here).
The
On 02/17/2010 10:42 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
I will be traveling Friday morning, so I won't be able to join you at
the SLOBs meeting. :(
-walter
If we've got an agenda queued up, I'd be happy to chair. (I'd also be
equally happy to defer if someone else would like to chair, I run enough
IRC
Some of you may have seen this news come across Planet already, but
we're doing a small SoaS deployment in a 1st grade classroom in
Cambridge, MA. It's meant to be small, short-term (Feb-May) and very
well-documented - basically, what is the simplest complete SoaS
deployment mechanism you
Thanks to Rafael for pointing this out - the Sugar proposal is at
http://www.dmlcompetition.net/pligg/story.php?title=496.
On 01/27/2010 11:18 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Mandy Daileymandy.dai...@duke.edu
Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at
On 01/21/2010 04:30 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
Per the last SLOBs meeting, and this mail
(http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2010-January/002621.html)
cc'd to the SLOBs, I had reflected for some time on this and come to
the conclusion that it can't be done the way we want to do it without
Where do our finances stand?
snip answers from Walter
Thanks, Walter - this is very helpful. I've put the information at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2010-01-22#Finances
and I think we should be all happily briefed by Friday morning. ;)
Currently, I am the one
2. Are we missing any discussion points for trademark on
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2010-01-22#Discussion_points?
The new draft section 2 says You may use the Sugar Labs Marks *with*
prior written permission for the following purposes (subject
Do you know how to add several languages in our wiki?
Poking the iaep metabrain, in case someone else has better ideas...
I know of several ways of doing multiple languages with mediawiki, none
of which are super-ideal.
* the way Wikipedia does it - multiple mediawiki installs, one per
I couldn't find a page on licensing, but since our trademark policies
will need to refer to them, I made a stub page at the logical location
referring to the policy we came up with for aslo. (A more detailed
explanation and a traceback of the policy are on the page itself.)
After an extended post-SLOBs discussion in #sugar, SeanDaly, cjb,
walterbender, sdziallas, myself (and possibly others I've missed -
tomeu, bernie, and dave_b contributed to the earlier discussion) came up
with a motion to unblock the SoaS naming question while we continue to
work on the
It's up for a vote. So far we have two 'aye' votes (mchua, cjb), and
need 2 more to pass.
MOTION: Yes, Sugar on a Stick should be reserved by Sugar Labs for use
by the SoaS-Fedora distribution so that Sugar can be marketed
effectively, until such time when a trademark policy, agreement, and
project to go through that process.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 17:09, Chris Ballc...@laptop.org wrote:
I second, if no-one else's e-mail client beats me to it, and vote aye.
On 12/18/2009 12:12 PM, Mel Chua wrote:
aye. --mchua
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org
wrote
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
After a protracted discussion, the Sugar Oversight Board has decided
to revise its policy regarding sl...@lists.sugarlabs.
For the history behind this decision, see
On 11/13/2009 04:00 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
We'll be meeting in #sugar-meeting.
-walter
My apologies - I'm going to have to miss this; just got a notice from
the airline that my flight to the Philippines was moved (yay!) so it
would appear I get to navigate alternate transport routes to
Quick note: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Requesting_a_SLOBs_decision
Better minutes/announcement-to-list/blog-post-to-Planet forthcoming,
but I wanted to close the conversation loop here with the updated
decision making procedure we came up with at Friday's SLOBs meeting.
--Mel
My current project is to build a finalized design document for a program that
will aid teachers in the classroom. I've finally finished
my prototype and would like to invite you all to try it out here:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Teacher%27s_Tools and feel free to
discuss it here:
Reminder: SLOBS meeting in #sugar-meeting at 1400 UTC!
On 10/22/2009 07:14 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
I have an opportunity to visit a school here in Lima tomorrow morning,
so I will not be able to join you for the SLOB meeting. I'll try to
find time this evening to write up a few notes. FYI, I
Minutes and logs posted:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Log-2009-10-23
In this round, we cover...
* trademarks
* why having an ombudsperson is awesome
* and much, much more
Thanks to special guest karenesq from the Software Freedom Law Center
for coming in to update us on
Three quick notes about our next meeting (same time, same place -
#sugar-meeting at 1400 UTC Friday 30 Oct):
1. A place for the agenda is here.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Log-2009-10-30. If
you'd like to add something for consideration for the agenda, see
*not set it in stone, but release a first version of our
decisionmaking process, if you will, and start to use it.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote:
At the first meeting of the new SLOBs, we realized that we didn't have a
clear listing of the scope of decisions
At the first meeting of the new SLOBs, we realized that we didn't have a
clear listing of the scope of decisions SLOBs should make, or a way to
do it (so far everything's been done by 100% consensus, but that's afaik
not because we decided that's how we should make decisions, it's just
what we
The mailing list in question is for developers... on the specific
existing project. Googling Sugar on a Stick will find (as it finds
today) the Sugar Labs website and the download page.
I interpreted the mailing list in question as being primarily for
developers of *any* SoaS, with the current
Thanks for the update, Sean!
The mailing list is up - details on the conversation are posted at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick#Make_a_SoaS_mailing_list.
In short: people talked, consensus was reached, stuff happened. We're
getting better at this - and are close to finishing
I can understand why a teacher may not be interested in this discussion.
Still, the debate is also very relevant. It's about how we're going to
address your aunt's concerns.
The debate is definitely very relevant, and I'm glad we're having it.
Think of it this way: nobody wants to know how
There's a lot going on in this thread, so here is my attempt to
summarize discussions so far. If I've missed or misstated anything, my
apologies - and it's a wiki, so go fix it. ;-)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick
By my count, there are 4 things we need to decide on and then
Ok - then the situation is this, then:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ASugar_on_a_Stickdiff=37874oldid=37820
It looks like the SoaS team is unblocked - now all that remains is
for the SoaS team members to identify themselves (I'd suggest just
requesting and joining a separate
I read the multiple future of SoaS discussions on this mailing list
and... to be honest, I was frustrated and didn't quite know how to
respond.
So I called my aunt Lynne May (I stay with her family when I'm in
Boston). She's been a teacher for over 15 years. She teaches first
grade. (I've been
For the trademark committee, one workflow that I'd personally be happy
with is:
* the trademark committee will set the trademark policy, and their
policy will be backed up by SLOBS as the official policy.
* separately, we'd need to decide whether we actually want to (and can
afford to)
It doesn't look like we've got a page for this yet, so I'm putting
current notes about how the election process will/could run here.
Deliberately roughly written and incomplete to encourage others to put
in their own ideas.
Background: I happened to catch the end of a #sugar-meeting discussion
between Caroline, Sebastian, Tomeu, and Simon (hopefully I haven't
missed anyone) about the frustration of figuring out ways to work with
upstream and downstream, and which projects played what roles (is Sugar
upstream of SoaS?
Whoa. I am humbled. Greg, your notes give me a new standard to reach for.
Send me your questions. What do you want to know about the SW and how
its used by kids?
I'm intrigued by the process of how the kids learn how to save and
retrieve files, and what they think of that interaction flow.
Ask the olpc_bos...@lists.laptop.org list - they just did this with
6th graders in Cambridge. If you find me on IRC, I can tell you what I
know as well. (Hm. Must prod Harvard students to post more notes about
how this went.)
--Mel
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There's a pretty active crew out in the Chicago area - some good
volunteers that should be tapped to ping on this - some may be able to
chime in here with more info (Bob, Hans, Sheila, Larry, Fransisco, Ben,
Karen, Sarah - are you here?)
Sean, you may want to ping
6. Sugar Stories
Mel is working on this and hopes to have at least three ready up on
the wiki sometime this weekend.
Told Sean on Tues but forgot to tell list - RSI delaying the typing up
of these, I'm trying to find a way around it (may write up longhand and
scan, if really at a loss for
We're going to be submitting our organization's GSoC application in ~24
hours, so this is a last call for edits and sanity checks. Many thanks
to Jameson and Walter for their constant reminders and for writing and
editing our org app!
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/SL_application
+1 - I'll start making redirects as I come across CamelCased pages in the
wiki.
For those who want to help, making a redirect page basically gives a wiki
page alternate names - for instance,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jamredirects to
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jams, so there's no duplication of
+1 Tuesday, and I'll do my best to stop by in between meetings on Monday
morning.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg g...@redhat.com wrote:
We're getting close to release of 0.84, and we can still use some focused
testing.
Testing is a lot more fun, and effective, when you
-1 Mel
Ah, sorry - I wasn't clear. I was agreeing with the statement that nobody
interested in comprehending the logs will not have
(or be granted) a shell account from which they can just run irssi and take
care of the logging themselves, and submitting an alternative proposal
based on that
Thanks for the redirect, Bernie!
http://join.sugarlabs.org is the URL that was printed on the business
cards for FOSDEM
(http://sugarlabs.org/go/Image:Business-card-draft.png). A separate URL
was chosen because we can easily direct it at any landing page we want
(be that GettingInvolved, the
Contention: nobody interested in comprehending the logs will not have
(or be granted) a shell account from which they can just run irssi and
take care of the logging themselves.
+1 to this.
I submit that people will generally be interested in two things: old meeting
notes (going back to
There was a comment on my blog post I thought folks might be interested
in (from http://blog.melchua.com/2009/01/08/melavailabilityfree/).
SLOBS might need to do the first, as I imagine #1 would involve The
Legal Paperwork Stuff, but #2 and #3 can be community, for sure.
Thoughts?
--
I put the agenda and the log and Simon's notes here.
http://sugarlabs.org/go/TestingTeam/Meetings/Agendas/2008-12-10
http://sugarlabs.org/go/TestingTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-12-10
Cheers,
--Mel
Simon Schampijer wrote:
logs: http://meeting.laptop.org/sugar-meeting.log.20081210_1206.html
Maybe we advertise at our pilot
schools and at HGSE and the other ed schools in the area. If we even
got only 5-10 teacherish types it would be a success and that really
shouldn't be hard.
Well, the teachers/students/parents from the pilot schools organizing
the workshop should be the
, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mel Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are a set of slides from a talk by Emma Jane Hogbin - slide
138 starts talking about workshops.
This made me start thinking about Sugar. Sugarcamp wasn't really an
end-user workshop
Reschedule as you will, let me know when the final time is; I can do any
time starting at 6pm EST (and ending before... say... 4am. Preferably
much earlier.)
-Mel
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
Hello
We will be having our Deployment team meeting this
Bernie and I just took a look at the CIC spaces; they are beautiful. We're
using the same space for the Monday night hackathon (especially invited: new
contributors). I'll send out another email about that in a moment.
-Mel
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(or would-be devs who haven't
finished their first!) that would be excited to join.
SJ
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Mel Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like an *excellent* plan to me! I'd be certainly
Sounds like an *excellent* plan to me! I'd be certainly glad to
participate and I'm sure will be the same for Tomeu. We can also
involve some Boston local activity authors to help out mentoring.
Great! So if Tomeu or any other core Sugar dev can commit to being a
second, I'll lock in the
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