Hey guys,
1. I am really liking the structured wiki namespaces for
Activities/XYZ, Features/XYZ, etc.
2. To better encourage communication between developers and
deployments, it would be nice to get more information about the
deployments on the wiki somewhere.
What about creating a
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
Hi,
What about leaving it unstarred? I'd hate to leave out a good
practical activity just out of indirect fear; similar arguments
could be used as reasons not to have a word processor or
spreadsheet altogether.
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
My guess is that we get few reviews because you need to create an
account on ASLO before you can do it. A normal Activity user has no
other use for such an account. If you could post a review without
logging in perhaps
Hi Danny,
Vincent Povrik created a Sugar-specific version of Wine. The .xo
bundle and other information are available at
http://wiki.winehq.org/SugaredWine. You could use his bundle as a
starting point for packaging your program.
What toolkit does your software use for its user interface? I
Hi all,
The download counts on activities.sugarlabs.org are very high, but the
review counts are low. Typing Turtle [1] has nearly 50,000 downloads
but only 2 reviews.
Most reviews are from within the Sugar community; there aren't many
from deployments.
Is there something we could to do
I have no experience with Launchpad, but am often frustrated by the
performance of SL Trac.
At my office we switched from Trac to Redmine for internal project
development, since Trac's development seems to have slowed to a crawl.
Provided a high priority is placed on migrating bug numbers and
I think it would be interesting and motivating for Activity developers
to have a page listing which activities are shipped by each
deployment.
(I just learned today that Typing Turtle v17 is in the OLENepal distribution)
Would someone from the deployment team be willing to organize this effort?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
This might be a good time to introduce an optional sugar_version=...
field into activity.info, so we can display a human readable error message
when this mistake happens. The activity will not launch unless Sugar's
version
Hi Daniel,
It sounds like you're advocating major architectural and process shifts to
combat hypothetical problems. (Java? C#? I could see JavaScript perhaps
:))
Most activities do not require custom binaries. Those that do have solved
the problem within the .xo format. If you download
Sugar could report an error message on startup: This Activity contains
executable code which was not compiled for this platform. Please contact
the activity author for support.
This would fall into the general category of displaying better error
messages when activities fail to start.
If ARM
Also check out http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Resources.
It has a Getting Started section at the beginning which covers many of
these topics.
FWIW, I do all my activity development on Windows, and I know a lot of
people work on Macs too. So I don't think you need to go all the way
to
that doesn't
seem to be applicable.
James Simmons
Wade Brainerd wrote:
Also check out http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Resources.
It has a Getting Started section at the beginning which covers many of
these topics.
FWIW, I do all my activity development on Windows, and I know
The idea that activities actually exist in the Journal (and only in
the Journal) is really exciting to me.
To fully realize this, we should unpack their .xo bundles *into their
Journal entry directory*, not /home/user/Activities.
Also, the default Activities should be present in the Journal,
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/sugar-labs-announces-new-version-of-sugar-learning-platform.ars
Nice to see a positive article from Ars (if it is straight from the press
release), since they panned just about everything OLPC did.
BTW, the release mentions a mind map activity.
On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com
wrote:
Wade Brainerd wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools.
It's
just that .vmdk is much more widely supported
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
But really, all we need to be doing is producing .vmdk files (virtual
disk images) for our SoaS snapshots. These files can be loaded in any
of VMware,
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, you can create a .vmdk from .img using the QEMU tools. It's
just that .vmdk is much more widely supported that .img so it would
save a conversion step for most VM users.
I agree that we should be providing
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
Virtualbox is Free and potentially similar. Also, coLinux
requires Administrator privileges to run, so students on school computers
probably can't use it.[1]
Don't VMs on Windows require admin privileges to install and/or
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder --
OpenSuSE also uses MediaWiki, but their theme and layout
looks really good:
http://en.opensuse.org/
Busy; tiny unreadable fonts; minimal, dull graphics.
Yeah, I like ours
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
Hi Luke,
as well as the ability to filter activities by age in aslo.
Yes, this would be very nice – there's lots of work needed in aslo to
make it more generally useful.
Can this be done through the category
Hey Caroline,
Just wondering if you have tried Colors!:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4052
It's not quite the same as KidPix, i.e. no stamping, but it was designed to
be a bit more fun than Paint.
Best,
Wade
PS- The latest version works quite well on SoaS thanks to alsroot
Hi all,
We are holding our third ActivityTeam meeting this Friday at 17:00 UTC
(12pm EST). It should last 1 hour, and hopefully nothing terrible
will befall us during that time. Hope to see you there!
What: Activity Team meeting
When: 13 March 2009, 17:00pm UTC
Where: irc.freenode.net,
Yikes, my bad. Let's keep it 17:00 UTC, I'll update the meetings page.
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 09.03.2009, at 20:41, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Hi all,
We are holding our third ActivityTeam meeting this Friday at 17:00 UTC
(12pm EST
My preference would be to just rename the pages, say ActivityTeam/* -
Activity Team/*
That way all future pages are more likely to be named correctly, and
the rename tool automatically makes a redirect page.
Wade
On Mar 6, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com
wrote:
?template=pagepage=about_overview
-walter
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
I was talking with a friend about Sugar and Sugar Labs and he asked what
age
range Sugar is targeted at.
I couldn't find this information from a brief scan of the static
...@gmail.comwrote:
Strange. When I follow that link, I land on the About Page... I don't
have to do any else.
-walter
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
Gotcha. I think the site layout confused me, even after you pointed me
at
the About page I couldn't
Looks nice and clean!
My only comment is that Download does not look enough like a button. It
looks more like a continuation of the header.
The position and size of the button in addition to the lack of additional
styling both contribute.
Best,
-Wade
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Eben
I think allowing web-based activities would be a great start to this
integration.
It's currently on the ActivityTeam TODO page and has been discussed a few
times in the mailing lists, but let me know if you would be interested in a
more formal spec.
The major change involves moving the WebActivity
, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help!
I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I
wonder
off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make
addons.sl.o
look
*more* like the other sl.o sites
Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help!
I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I wonder
off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make addons.sl.o look
*more* like the other sl.o sites?Things are kind of confusing right now
with the different styles of wiki,
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.comwrote:
Hi all,
and here's another announcement for Sugar on a Stick!
You can grab your updated version now directly from here:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/latest.iso
Hey, this link appears to have
One more thing. Going forward, would you guys be willing to produce VMDK
files for VMWare / VirtualBox in addition to the ISO?
A lot of activity developers (including myself) develop entirely using
emulators and this would allow us to test our work on the latest versions.
Here are the steps
Hi all,
We are holding our second ActivityTeam meeting this Friday at 12pm EST
(17:00 UTC). It should last 1 hour (the length of my lunch break).
Hope to see you there!
What: Activity Team meeting
When: 27 February 2009, 12:00 pm EST
Where: irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting
Agenda:
* Catch
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:17:06PM +0100, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
Hi everybody,
after some time, we've another snapshot of soas-1 ready for testing! You
can now grab it directly from [1].
So what has changed
We are trying to gather activity status information at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus - there is a 'soas' tag
which indicates the activity works on SoaS, any errors should be reported in
the Remarks column.
But despite a few public requests we haven't managed to get any SoaS
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.comwrote:
ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted
upon (much more importantly)
Thanks for the frank report. Hopefully it will help spur some action :)
It's also a good opportunity to highlight the
much testing being
done.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
We are trying to gather activity status information at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus - there is a 'soas'
tag which indicates the activity works on SoaS, any errors should
We didn't schedule one, but in case anyone thought there would be, there is
no ActivityTeam meeting this Friday.
I'm out of town this week, and I'm leaning towards bi-weekly anyway. I'll
send out another email when we set the next time.
Cheers,
Wade
Hi everyone,
Please join us for the first Sugar Labs ActivityTeam IRC meeting this
Friday, 3PM EST in #sugar-meeting on FreeNode.
http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Meetings
All are encouraged to attend. I will be especially happy to see the
following kinds of people well represented:
-
I personally prefer 'Sugar' over 'Sugarland'. The latter seems a bit
like another world, where I think people want to be educated to
succeed in the real one.
SugarLand might appeal more to children. But then we would also want
to make the UI less focused and more like a video game, which I
Hey David,
Correction: Flash can absolutely do collaboration. Check out online
games like Corpse Craft for examples. A SWF-based collaborative Sugar
activity would require some support from Sugar itself to direct
communications to the right places.
That said, I totally agree that a Python
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
It seems to me that
Sugar exists because we claim at least the following failings of most
educational software projects:
* they don't allow the knowledge they contain to be *appropriated*.
* they don't allow children to be
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
Wade Brainerd wrote:
I think the template should be built into and supported by the Sugar
dev team, rather than something that has to be copied around.
I strongly disagree. We should send the clearest
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On 05.01.2009, at 05:24, John Watlington wrote:
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Currently Sugar is incapable of running software which is not
specifically designed for it.
Sugar runs simpler SWF
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote:
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote:
Personally, I don't believe that Sugar Labs the organization needs to be
concerned with any of these four points.
Ahh, but a recurring question from existing Sugar
I know Mavis has a simplified flash version on their website.
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sascha Silbe
sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:42:21PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
I'm following the format used by programs like MicroType and Mavis Beacon
Personally, I don't believe that Sugar Labs the organization needs to be
concerned with any of these four points.
The question is whether the Sugar *software* is flexible enough to adapt to
the needs of its users. Who are we to say what they should install, and
what tools they should use to make
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I don't believe that Sugar Labs the organization needs to be
concerned with any of these four points.
The question is whether the Sugar *software* is flexible enough to adapt to
the needs of its users. Who
I think Bryan's idea is wonderfully practical. What's more, it sounds easy
to achieve. You just need a 'swf-activity' launcher, and a script to
sugarize .SWF files into .xo bundles which launch as fullscreen activities.
Building it around Browse is probably a bad idea (re: the .xol
The work we did for WikiBrowse (the WikipediaES and WikipediaEN) activities
would make a good starting point.
First of all the Browse code should be integrated into Sugar. This has been
discussed before, and makes sense since you guys are maintaining the Browse
activity anyway.
The Browse code
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:
I don't think anyone is arguing that we should preclude people from
using whatever tools they have at hand.
I think the question is how well the Sugar community *supports* using using
a particular tool (Flash,
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote:
On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 15:18 -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
(3) We need lots more Activities.
While there is consensus on this point, there is not consensus on the
best way to get a lot more Activities. That is, pulling a
If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing
*practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type.
That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just
wanted to make a nice one for Sugar.
-Wade
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Sascha Silbe
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 06:12:40PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
Can you please cite a few examples to help ground me further?
Let's try:
* the Etoys/Debian fight?
* the F6/F7 timeframe Java fight?
* the
January.. When it's ready I will
announce it on the sugar list.
Cheers,
Wade
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Sascha Silbe
sascha-ml-ui-sugar-su...@silbe.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 07:20:05PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote:
If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic
I have said it before, but I believe that any successful software business
needs a revenue stream that's tied to sales.
For example, Firefox makes money from downloads via the Google toolbar.
MySQL makes money from support contracts.
Open source projects like Debian survive entirely based on the
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From: Wade Brainerd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:31 AM
Subject: content for typing turtle
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Samuel
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Hi all,
I am seeking educators / writers to develop content for Typing
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