Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-21 Thread Teemu Leinonen
Hi Søren et all. interesting discussion. Some comments: On 20.9.2010, at 14.13, Søren Hougesen wrote: I'm interested to know more about this FOSS culture. As I've understand it, Sugar (-Lab) is part of a this greater FOSS culture. At the same time I find it difficult to capture the

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Teemu Leinonen teemu.leino...@aalto.fi wrote: The issue is even more important when the project is claiming to promote FLOSS culture, like in the case of Sugar. In my definition of That is _not_ the primary goal of Sugar. Sugar aims for lots of goals, first and

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-21 Thread Teemu Leinonen
On 21.9.2010, at 20.48, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Teemu Leinonen teemu.leino...@aalto.fi wrote: The issue is even more important when the project is claiming to promote FLOSS culture, like in the case of Sugar. In my definition of That is _not_ the primary

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/18/2010 04:01 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Søren Hougesen soren.houge...@gmail.com wrote: For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually hacking sugar. Two factors are important here: - We all have very high and complex

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 04:01, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Søren Hougesen soren.houge...@gmail.com wrote: For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually hacking sugar. Two factors are important here:  - We

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread Søren Hougesen
*Tony* - *Having a FOSS culture means that lots of smaller design decisions are made which empower the learner* I'm interested to know more about this FOSS culture. As I've understand it, Sugar (-Lab) is part of a this greater FOSS culture. At the same time I find it difficult to capture the

[IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-17 Thread Søren Hougesen
For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually hacking sugar. This question is in the same ball-part. I’m trying to understand Sugar-FOSS and the philosophy of debugging and the child’s role in this process. As I understand it, the term ‘Free’ in FOSS means both free

Re: [IAEP] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Søren Hougesen soren.houge...@gmail.com wrote: For about a month ago, I asked as a curious outsider, if kids were actually hacking sugar. Two factors are important here: - We all have very high and complex expectations for Sugar, so Sugar itself is internally