Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 02:13:34AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Mon, 17-05-2010 a las 18:19 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Done critically, creatively, and transparently, voluntary free software

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 09:12, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 02:13:34AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Mon, 17-05-2010 a las 18:19 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Mon, 17-05-2010 a las 18:19 -0400, Martin Langhoff escribió: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Done critically, creatively, and transparently, voluntary free software projects There is a bit of misdirection in there. Projects are

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 19:43, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: There has been discussion on development processes and a development team lead over the past couple of days.  As this discussion moves forward, I would like the community to consider the effects of working with commercial

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 00:04, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Am 17.05.2010 23:50, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Farning wrote: One consideration is that these deployment specific issues are often boring -- stuff like bug

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-18 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: There has been discussion on development processes and a development team lead over the past couple of days.  As this discussion moves forward, I would like the community to consider the effects of working with

[IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread David Farning
There has been discussion on development processes and a development team lead over the past couple of days. As this discussion moves forward, I would like the community to consider the effects of working with commercial entity. Over the past couple of months I have been exploring business

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 17.05.2010 19:43, schrieb David Farning: There has been discussion on development processes and a development team lead over the past couple of days. As this discussion moves forward, I would like the community to consider the effects of working with commercial entity. Over the past

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Over the past couple of months I have been exploring business opportunities to promote the adoption and development of Sugar.  One of these opportunities is a service and support business for deployments.  As such, we are

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Farning wrote: One consideration is that these deployment specific issues are often boring -- stuff like bug fixes. As such we are paying the developers the going rate rate for developers in their country or region. This brings three advantages:

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 17.05.2010 23:50, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Farning wrote: One consideration is that these deployment specific issues are often boring -- stuff like bug fixes. As such we are paying the developers the going rate rate for developers in their

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Done critically, creatively, and transparently, voluntary free software projects There is a bit of misdirection in there. Projects are rarely defined as a voluntary free software project. IMHE successful

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Cristoph and others, On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:04:08AM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Am 17.05.2010 23:50, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43:19PM -0500, David Farning wrote: One consideration is that these deployment specific issues are often boring -- stuff like

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Making deals with commercial partners have a tendency to spawn discrete communication and work shared openly but as a result, not a peer process (a famous example is that of Google Android release process of linux kernel

Re: [IAEP] Working with a commercial entity.

2010-05-17 Thread David Farning
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Making deals with commercial partners have a tendency to spawn discrete communication and work shared openly but as a result, not a peer