Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:54:38PM +1100, Costello, Rob R wrote: From outside this all looks as though it might suffer from being a little too pedantic in adhering to definitional terms It feels as free and open as can be, in terms of what you can

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:36, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 02:38, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu. If I remember this issue was beaten to

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Costello, Rob R
educator who is biased towards what works for kids learning -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:iaep- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Smedegaard Sent: Thursday, 6 November 2008 10:31 PM To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Morgan Collett
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 02:38, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu. If I remember this issue was beaten to death before I got involved with SL. I only remember discussion of

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Thu, 6 Nov 2008 00:53:11 -0800, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 06.11.2008, at 00:12, David Farning wrote: Do you know who I should talk to about requesting that http://www.squeak.org/SqueakLicense/ be update to reflect this information? Squeak (at squeak.org) and Etoys (at

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-06 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 04:38:19PM -0800, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu. If I remember this issue was beaten to death before I got involved

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 05.11.2008, at 13:55, David Farning wrote: .One sticking point was the availability of squeak on Ubuntu. If I remember this issue was beaten to death before I got involved with SL. I only remember discussion of getting it into Debian, not Ubuntu. Basically, even though the license

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Van Assche
The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main, and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable, iirc. Its pretty much the same policy as debian. Scratch was recently rejected from MOTU

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread victor rajewski
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:18 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main, and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable, iirc. Its

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:18 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main, and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable, iirc. Its

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:18 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main, and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in it,

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Van Assche
David: Yeah thats the one. Vik: The edubuntu community is seeing how it can move the edubuntu portion into universe, though that then limits support, as only main and restricted get full support from ubuntu developers. It is currently unsure what will go where, but edubuntu in universe means more

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 20:18, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem here is that edubuntu and its packages are in Ubuntu Main, and for sugar to be in there, there must be no non-free software in it, and squeak is not totally free. Apple fonts not being modifiable, iirc. Its

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar on Edubuntu

2008-11-05 Thread David Farning
Thanks Edward, I see that you have cced Yoshiki and Robin. If they don't catch this thread, I follow up with them. thanks david On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:35 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 6,