Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator

2009-05-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 23:58, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote: It's a very neat thing. From my point of view, its pedagogical value would very much increase if you could save and share your diagrams. So that one student could build something and give it to others to improve, etc. Or

Re: [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Andrés Ambrois andresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009 06:29:26 pm Albert Cahalan wrote: Vamsi Krishna Davuluri writes: The priority is on sending the docs to cups-pdf for conversion and then talking to Moodle for teacher review. It is a good idea

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a printer that students aren't allowed to use. Correct! But may be used seldom, as a special case, prize, etc. And teachers _are_ allowed to print -- while there's a good chance, the computers there are

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-05-04 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
From where I'm standing it looks as though we should have 3 full days to get things done, with Friday - May 15 - being the arrival day for many people and therefore more aimed at socializing and whatnot. Saturday, 16th: To me this day should really be about the OLPC France event, listening

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-05-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 13:01, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote:  From where I'm standing it looks as though we should have 3 full days to get things done, with Friday - May 15 - being the arrival day for many people and therefore more aimed at socializing and whatnot.

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] Planning for Sugar Camp Paris

2009-05-04 Thread Bastien
Hi Caroline, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com writes: With regards to logistics I was wondering where we'll have the meetings, I assume the location that OLPC France is providing is only available on Saturday? Are there any hacker-spaces, apartments, whatever that we can

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-03

2009-05-04 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Diego introduced me to Grace Hopper's formula for creativity that I had not previously encountered: The probability of creativity is a function of knowledge, innovation, and experience, modulated by attitude.

Re: [IAEP] Experiences with Soas2-200904231400.iso

2009-05-04 Thread James Simmons
Caroline, Normally the System BIOS recognizes the devices installed on your system. The BIOS is a kind of software that runs before your operating system runs. Your operating system often will work with the BIOS rather than working with hardware directly. In any case, this boot disk is

[IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Costello, Rob R
i think Kathy is really on to something here ..taps some things i've been turning over and thinking of sending to the list my day job is now working for company that designs educational maths software i don't have time to do anything much here - for sugar - but i will offer these observations

Re: [IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-05-04 Thread James Simmons
Edward, I'm a little puzzled by this statement: Presumably we can create a library of pretagged documents for our students. I would guess you're referring to some variation of the Unified Bundles idea, and these bundles would have tags in them. Fine with me, but who is creating this

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 14, Issue 7

2009-05-04 Thread Jeff Elkner
://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/attachments/20090504/308ccc06/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:36:02 +0200 From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator To: Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com Cc: iaep

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 17:42, Costello, Rob R costello.ro...@edumail.vic.gov.au wrote: at the risk of dragging practical developers into a theoretical discussion, i would suggest sugar needs to more clearly nail down its educational position... and then some structures like lesson templates ..

Re: [IAEP] The User experience/interface for Printing

2009-05-04 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 04:44:33AM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Sending the docs to cups-pdf for conversion and then talking to Moodle for teacher review can be done via /usr/bin/lpr, But that would sidestep the Journal and prevent review of the actual output (i.e. what it looks like on paper,

[IAEP] Fwd: [bytesforall_readers] Science education (India)

2009-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
Now that India says it will buy 250,000 XOs, we need to involve education NGOs and others there. -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederick FN Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM Subject: [bytesforall_readers] Science education... and useful

[IAEP] Sugar on Fedora?

2009-05-04 Thread Ashar Iqbal
Is there a Sugar Fedora spin that I can download? I am sure I saw a torrent but can't seem to find it again. If not, then what would be the easiest way of getting Sugar running on a variety of old machines (no booting off USB, just CDs)? Ashar ___ IAEP

Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator

2009-05-04 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Sun, 3 May 2009 22:09:57 +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: Noticed this Flash based logic simulator: http://joshblog.net/projects/logic-gate-simulator/Logicly.html Would be quite a simple sandbox activity to make (python, gtk+, ciaro); but before I burn time (well add to my future

Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator

2009-05-04 Thread Frederick Grose
Some links to promote exploration: http://www.squeakland.org/download/ - brower plugins are available to run Etoys (Seems to be limited to x86 or i386 for the Linux - Debian download.) With the plugin installed, this link will load the Computer Logic Game project:

Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator

2009-05-04 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 04.05.2009, at 19:46, Frederick Grose wrote: Some links to promote exploration: http://www.squeakland.org/download/ - brower plugins are available to run Etoys (Seems to be limited to x86 or i386 for the Linux - Debian download.) On the website, yes. Debian has a 64 bit version,

Re: [IAEP] Project Gutenberg, etc.

2009-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:46 AM, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: Edward, I'm a little puzzled by this statement: Presumably we can create a library of pretagged documents for our students. I would guess you're referring to some variation of the Unified Bundles idea, and

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread James Simmons
Aleksey, I, too would be interested in what this will look like. From your description it sounds like a way of grouping things (including texts) in such a way that you can share them with others without actually having them open, as long as the Library activity itself is open. I would

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Calibre makes a sqlite3 database which is the basis for its display. It seems to have a reasonable schema. (An easy way to examine it is with the Sqlite Manger, an excellent Firefox add-on if you haven't already discovered it). On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM, James Simmons

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread James Simmons
Carol, I would not use sqllite 3. The metadata for several hundred books could easily fit in memory. It would basically be a good sized spreadsheet. Python has a pickling feature which can save a bunch of objects in memory in a single file that can be easily reloaded into memory. I could

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
You would need to reinvent ACID updates if you shared the catalog. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:34 PM, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.comwrote: Carol, I would not use sqllite 3. The metadata for several hundred books could easily fit in memory. It would basically be a good sized

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread James Simmons
Carol, I see sharing the catalog as a read-only thing. I don't know what Aleksey has in mind for Library. Even if that wasn't true, a database is not necessary. There is a framework called Prevayler that handles in-memory databases in such a way that you can lose power without losing

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Fedora?

2009-05-04 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 10:20:20PM +0500, Ashar Iqbal wrote: Is there a Sugar Fedora spin that I can download? You should have a look at Sugar on a Stick: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick Ashar Martin pgpYuK7vh51B8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Bill Kerr
in part this is a discussion about what works in the educational marketplace and what is cutting edge and pushes education forward, the latter will usually be a minority and difficult or nearly impossible to implement position “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable man

[IAEP] Fwd: Language Learning Courseware

2009-05-04 Thread Seth Woodworth
-- Forwarded message -- From: Neal Scogin neal.sco...@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:36 PM Subject: [support-gang] Language Learning Courseware To: Laptop Support support-g...@laptop.org I am developing courseware (a complete methodology) that utilizes Sugar (primarily

Re: [IAEP] versus, not

2009-05-04 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ===Sugar Digest=== I encourage you to join two threads on the Education List this week:

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: Something we have talked about in the past is a way for individuals to share content they've created with others, and an obvious means of accomplishing this task is to provide functionality of a View Alice's Journal nature, by which Bob could view Alice's shared content.

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
WebDAV is very nice at a first look, but its implementations are so radically different, that using it across OSes is often hopeless (from my limited experience). 2009/5/5 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Eben Eliason wrote: Something we have talked about in the past is a way for

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lucian Branescu wrote: WebDAV is very nice at a first look, but its implementations are so radically different, that using it across OSes is often hopeless (from my limited experience). - From what I've read, Windows's built-in WebDAV support

Re: [IAEP] Books Books Books

2009-05-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 12:40:33PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 15:51, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:39:52PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Yes!  In theory there are thousands of free books.  We need people to be able to experience

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 01:54:30PM -0500, James Simmons wrote: Aleksey, I, too would be interested in what this will look like. From your description it sounds like a way of grouping things (including texts) in such a way that you can share them with others without actually having

Re: [IAEP] Library Activity

2009-05-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
In case of Library activity I'm going to follow simple rules: * use local datastore API to search/filter objects * use remote datastore API(in some way) to search/filter objects from remote users(sources) * use telepathy tubes for notifying users about changes * sync shared objects while

Re: [IAEP] educational brew

2009-05-04 Thread Bill Kerr
The other thing I should have said about rob's post but didn't was that I pretty much agree with all of it as a description of the reality we face, ie. my experiences of being an innovative teacher are similar enough to what rob describes as to make it pointless to quibble about the differences