Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
On 2012-06-18, at 17:00, Tony Anderson wrote: Hello, Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context. It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded from the website. The website also has installation instructions. Which website? When I run this on an XO-1.5 @ 885, it opens a Firefox window (not full-screen) with an error message (connection error, laptop not registered) and a blank icon in the frame. Additionally, there is the Learn icon in the frame, but clicking it says the activity could not be started. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
So you're talking about this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Learn I indeed encountered other issues. You should warn people that your scripts not only install firefox in /opt, but also modify /usr/lib/python2.7/SimpleHTTPServer.py and /usr/bin/sugar-launch. You should not tell people that the USB drive replaces the schoolserver because the USB is not used at all at runtime. It's simply one way of installing your stuff. Your setup instructions on the website do not work. Besides of the broken formatting, the commands, if typed literally as given, do not work. They're also outdated. There is no firefox-11.0.tar.bz2 on mozilla.org. Only the current version is available for download (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) but with that, your Firefox.sh would not work. Running the activity modifies the activity directory (creating symlinks, copying contents etc.). That's verboten (under Rainbow, literally so). Your activity expects the content in ~/Documents/karma. Your instructions/scripts do not put it there. And if they did, the activity would try to copy the whole content tree on every launch. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. So how is this supposed to work? Don't give me scripts, but explain, please. I jumped through all these hoops because I really wanted to see it working. - Bert - On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in documentation. The website I am referring to is the one linked from activity page on ASLO. This version uses a usb drive to stand in for the school server. The first time Learn is launched it must be connected to the school server to download the initial content. If not, the user gets a message saying it must be connected to the school server. Apparently, this isn't handled correctly when starting without the usb drive (or a school server). The webpage linked from the activity screen gives information on how to set up the usb drive. Since Learn wraps Firefox, it needs to be installed. On recent builds with Gnome desktop, Firefox is installed, but Learn works better with versions from 4 up and so needs to be reinstalled. The web page provides scripts to handle all of this, hopefully, for non-developers. Please let me know if you encounter other issues. Thanks, Tony On 06/19/2012 03:34 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 2012-06-18, at 17:00, Tony Anderson wrote: Hello, Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context. It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded from the website. The website also has installation instructions. Which website? When I run this on an XO-1.5 @ 885, it opens a Firefox window (not full-screen) with an error message (connection error, laptop not registered) and a blank icon in the frame. Additionally, there is the Learn icon in the frame, but clicking it says the activity could not be started. - Bert - . ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
I think there may be a way to set up an SD card to be used at runtime by pointing to it in the Journal where items appear as if they were actually on the XO. This should also work with an usb drive. I was walked through the procedure by Scott D From: b...@freudenbergs.de Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:47 +0200 To: tony_ander...@usa.net CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Learn activity So you're talking about this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Learn I indeed encountered other issues. You should warn people that your scripts not only install firefox in /opt, but also modify /usr/lib/python2.7/SimpleHTTPServer.py and /usr/bin/sugar-launch. You should not tell people that the USB drive replaces the schoolserver because the USB is not used at all at runtime. It's simply one way of installing your stuff. Your setup instructions on the website do not work. Besides of the broken formatting, the commands, if typed literally as given, do not work. They're also outdated. There is no firefox-11.0.tar.bz2 on mozilla.org. Only the current version is available for download (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) but with that, your Firefox.sh would not work. Running the activity modifies the activity directory (creating symlinks, copying contents etc.). That's verboten (under Rainbow, literally so). Your activity expects the content in ~/Documents/karma. Your instructions/scripts do not put it there. And if they did, the activity would try to copy the whole content tree on every launch. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. So how is this supposed to work? Don't give me scripts, but explain, please. I jumped through all these hoops because I really wanted to see it working. - Bert - On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in documentation. The website I am referring to is the one linked from activity page on ASLO. This version uses a usb drive to stand in for the school server. The first time Learn is launched it must be connected to the school server to download the initial content. If not, the user gets a message saying it must be connected to the school server. Apparently, this isn't handled correctly when starting without the usb drive (or a school server). The webpage linked from the activity screen gives information on how to set up the usb drive. Since Learn wraps Firefox, it needs to be installed. On recent builds with Gnome desktop, Firefox is installed, but Learn works better with versions from 4 up and so needs to be reinstalled. The web page provides scripts to handle all of this, hopefully, for non-developers. Please let me know if you encounter other issues. Thanks, Tony On 06/19/2012 03:34 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 2012-06-18, at 17:00, Tony Anderson wrote: Hello, Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context. It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded from the website. The website also has installation instructions. Which website? When I run this on an XO-1.5 @ 885, it opens a Firefox window (not full-screen) with an error message (connection error, laptop not registered) and a blank icon in the frame. Additionally, there is the Learn icon in the frame, but clicking it says the activity could not be started. - Bert - . ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: Learn activity
Oops... hit the wrong button! I'll finish it below I think there is way to set up an SD card to be used at runtime by pointing to it in the Journal where items appear as if they were actually on the XO. This should also work with an usb drive. I was walked through the procedure by Scott Dowdle of Montana State University. It didn't stick with me... he's a great teacher, but I'm a so-so student. I'll cc this note to him. Maybe he can jump in with some ideas for you. Caryl P.S. Scott... I still could like to learn how to do this! From: b...@freudenbergs.de Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:47 +0200 To: tony_ander...@usa.net CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Learn activity So you're talking about this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Learn I indeed encountered other issues. You should warn people that your scripts not only install firefox in /opt, but also modify /usr/lib/python2.7/SimpleHTTPServer.py and /usr/bin/sugar-launch. You should not tell people that the USB drive replaces the schoolserver because the USB is not used at all at runtime. It's simply one way of installing your stuff. Your setup instructions on the website do not work. Besides of the broken formatting, the commands, if typed literally as given, do not work. They're also outdated. There is no firefox-11.0.tar.bz2 on mozilla.org. Only the current version is available for download (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) but with that, your Firefox.sh would not work. Running the activity modifies the activity directory (creating symlinks, copying contents etc.). That's verboten (under Rainbow, literally so). Your activity expects the content in ~/Documents/karma. Your instructions/scripts do not put it there. And if they did, the activity would try to copy the whole content tree on every launch. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. So how is this supposed to work? Don't give me scripts, but explain, please. I jumped through all these hoops because I really wanted to see it working. - Bert - On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in documentation. The website I am referring to is the one linked from activity page on ASLO. This version uses a usb drive to stand in for the school server. The first time Learn is launched it must be connected to the school server to download the initial content. If not, the user gets a message saying it must be connected to the school server. Apparently, this isn't handled correctly when starting without the usb drive (or a school server). The webpage linked from the activity screen gives information on how to set up the usb drive. Since Learn wraps Firefox, it needs to be installed. On recent builds with Gnome desktop, Firefox is installed, but Learn works better with versions from 4 up and so needs to be reinstalled. The web page provides scripts to handle all of this, hopefully, for non-developers. Please let me know if you encounter other issues. Thanks, Tony On 06/19/2012 03:34 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 2012-06-18, at 17:00, Tony Anderson wrote: Hello, Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context. It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded from the website. The website also has installation instructions. Which website? When I run this on an XO-1.5 @ 885, it opens a Firefox window (not full-screen) with an error message (connection error, laptop not registered) and a blank icon in the frame. Additionally, there is the Learn icon in the frame, but clicking it says the activity could not be started. - Bert - . ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
Hi, I have tried to address your points below. Thanks for your patience and taking the time to work through this. You can, of course, do the install without the scripts. They are simple so you can see what they are trying to do. 1. Install Learn. This can be done in the normal way through browse. I was only concerned that there were problems in the deployment trying to install over an earlier version without erasing. The script technique has worked well in Rwanda. 2. The change to SimpleHTTPServer.py enables audio and video in the lessons using the karma.js script created by Bryan Berry. The script preloads images, audio clips, and video clips into memory before displaying the page. This load is done by the local host and so requires correct mime-type headers. This wasn't happening because SimpleHTTPServer.py didn't recognize the .ogg and ,ogv file extensions. 3. The change to Sugar-launch is needed to enable Learn to launch activities with a specified bundle (essentially installing the bundle from the lesson folder into the Journal and then resuming the Sugar activity). This is done by using a -o flag on the command line If 2 and 3 are omitted, you will lose audio and will not be able to launch the examples using ShowNTell, Memorize and so forth. Otherwise, most of the functionality will not be affected. 4. Install Firefox in /usr/bin directly or in /opt with a link from /usr/bin. I only did the latter because it is a way for two versions to co-exist and for a time I wasn't sure that Learn worked with the more recent versions so I wanted a fallback. 5. Make sure the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 file is unpacked on a usb drive. The Learn activity checks all the mounted drives for a folder: kls. That should be all that is needed to make it work. Let me know if it still has problems. Thanks again for your time and patience. Tony On 06/19/2012 05:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: So you're talking about this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Learn I indeed encountered other issues. You should warn people that your scripts not only install firefox in /opt, but also modify /usr/lib/python2.7/SimpleHTTPServer.py and /usr/bin/sugar-launch. Agreed. The purpose of the script is to install a recent version of Firefox whether or not it is already installed. I erase Firefox from /usr/bin and set up a symbolic link to the installed version in /opt. This should work in builds with or without the Gnome desktop. The documentation should say the most recent version. I'll have to think about how to get the script to handle different file names. The change to SimpleHTTPServer.py is the simplest way I know to get Firefox to recognize the extensions .ogg and .ogv. I probably need to post a bug report on this. The change to Sugar-launch enables it to be run with options -o and -u. I believe this has always been the intent. I hope at some point this can be done upstream. You should not tell people that the USB drive replaces the schoolserver because the USB is not used at all at runtime. It's simply one way of installing your stuff. Not so. The USB drive contains a folder 'kls'. The install scripts untar the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 which contains the content. This folder has the demo content which is downloaded when the activity is run. I am using for the install just for convenience. When used with the school server, this content and much more is downloaded from the school server. Your setup instructions on the website do not work. Besides of the broken formatting, the commands, if typed literally as given, do not work. Ouch! I forgot the ./Learn.sh and the sudo ./Firefox.sh. Also, for some reason the upload process named the files Learn.sh and Firefox.sh instead of learn.sh and firefox.sh. I have updated the website. They're also outdated. There is no firefox-11.0.tar.bz2 on mozilla.org. Only the current version is available for download (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) but with that, your Firefox.sh would not work. This is going to take some thought. I happened to have version 11 downloaded and used it. Firefox is changing versions now very rapidly, so I need a script that can accept whatever version the user downloads. Running the activity modifies the activity directory (creating symlinks, copying contents etc.). That's verboten (under Rainbow, literally so). As far as I know, Rainbow was dropped. In 0.82, I patched activity factory to add Learn activity to the list of activities that ran under olpc. (also verboten). Your activity expects the content in ~/Documents/karma. Your instructions/scripts do not put it there. And if they did, the activity would try to copy the whole content tree on every launch. Again, not so. The karma folder and other content are downloaded from the school server (or usb drive) on the first launch. If they are already there, they are not downloaded again. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does
Re: [IAEP] FW: Learn activity
Hi, Bert has found some snafus in my documentation which I hope we can get straightened out. Actually, this version of Learn will work as well with an SD card since they appear the same to the software. Keep in mind, that a deployment of Learn will need a school server, at least in the developing world. In the US many students have a computer lab at school and their own computer at home. However, this is not the case in Rwanda. Learn is designed to download lessons from the school server that students can work on at home (and upload the results when they connect again). The USB key is to allow people to test it without having to set up a school server. Tony On 06/19/2012 08:25 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Oops... hit the wrong button! I'll finish it below I think there is way to set up an SD card to be used at runtime by pointing to it in the Journal where items appear as if they were actually on the XO. This should also work with an usb drive. I was walked through the procedure by Scott Dowdle of Montana State University. It didn't stick with me... he's a great teacher, but I'm a so-so student. I'll cc this note to him. Maybe he can jump in with some ideas for you. Caryl P.S. Scott... I still could like to learn how to do this! From: b...@freudenbergs.de Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:51:47 +0200 To: tony_ander...@usa.net CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Learn activity So you're talking about this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Learn I indeed encountered other issues. You should warn people that your scripts not only install firefox in /opt, but also modify /usr/lib/python2.7/SimpleHTTPServer.py and /usr/bin/sugar-launch. You should not tell people that the USB drive replaces the schoolserver because the USB is not used at all at runtime. It's simply one way of installing your stuff. Your setup instructions on the website do not work. Besides of the broken formatting, the commands, if typed literally as given, do not work. They're also outdated. There is no firefox-11.0.tar.bz2 on mozilla.org. Only the current version is available for download (firefox-13.0.1.tar.bz2) but with that, your Firefox.sh would not work. Running the activity modifies the activity directory (creating symlinks, copying contents etc.). That's verboten (under Rainbow, literally so). Your activity expects the content in ~/Documents/karma. Your instructions/scripts do not put it there. And if they did, the activity would try to copy the whole content tree on every launch. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. So how is this supposed to work? Don't give me scripts, but explain, please. I jumped through all these hoops because I really wanted to see it working. - Bert - On 2012-06-19, at 16:36, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Thanks for pointing this out. We always seem to miss the obvious in documentation. The website I am referring to is the one linked from activity page on ASLO. This version uses a usb drive to stand in for the school server. The first time Learn is launched it must be connected to the school server to download the initial content. If not, the user gets a message saying it must be connected to the school server. Apparently, this isn't handled correctly when starting without the usb drive (or a school server). The webpage linked from the activity screen gives information on how to set up the usb drive. Since Learn wraps Firefox, it needs to be installed. On recent builds with Gnome desktop, Firefox is installed, but Learn works better with versions from 4 up and so needs to be reinstalled. The web page provides scripts to handle all of this, hopefully, for non-developers. Please let me know if you encounter other issues. Thanks, Tony On 06/19/2012 03:34 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 2012-06-18, at 17:00, Tony Anderson wrote: Hello, Today, Version 51 of the Learn activity has been posted to Activities.Sugarlabs.org. This version is intended for use by deployments to evaluate its usefulness in their context. It has a separate (45mb) file of content which can be downloaded from the website. The website also has installation instructions. Which website? When I run this on an XO-1.5 @ 885, it opens a Firefox window (not full-screen) with an error message (connection error, laptop not registered) and a blank icon in the frame. Additionally, there is the Learn icon in the frame, but clicking it says the activity could not be started. - Bert - . ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project
Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
On 2012-06-19, at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote: 5. Make sure the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 file is unpacked on a usb drive. The Learn activity checks all the mounted drives for a folder: kls. That was the missing puzzle piece. I's still weird to require the USB drive even after I copied everything to the activity's content folder already. Why? In any case, it looks like I was mislead by these lines in your code: cmd = 'cp -r ~/Documents/karma' cmd = cmd + ' ~/Activities/Learn.activity/content/' subprocess.call(cmd,shell=True) Also note that in the new OS, USB drives will not appear in /media anymore. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. If we can surmount the install problems, it should show the main screen seen in the screen shot on the website. With the kls directory unpacked on the USB drive it works, indeed. But the other problems are still there - Firefox is not actually wrapped, it appears in a separate, non-Sugar window, whereas the activity window itself is not used. But now I can comment on your original mail: The sample content includes two milestones each for English, Mathematics, and Science developed and used by the teachers at École Saint Jacobs in Kigali, Rwanda. So the activity is in use already? It seemed quite unfinished to me. A button on the home page allows users to experience the activity with staff priviliges and as a student in P4, P5 and P6. The p4 button does nothing here. There is also a 'Laboratory' subject where teachers can prepare milestones and lessons for the coming term. The Laboratory also support French to enable the French teacher also to create course materials. Don't see the Laboratory subject. The Explore subject is intended to provide extra-curricular courses which students can study to earn badges. At present it contains examples of various types of lessons including a Khan Academy video and associated exercises as well as a story (with audio) from the British Council. Learn is capable of launching Sugar activities. Found the audio lesson in Explore/examples/1/4. The examples in ms02 require that ShowNTell, Quiz, Memorize, Turtle Art, and the Jukebox activity be installed. (Jukebox is used to play the Khan video). If the activity launched by a Learn activity is not installed, it throws an exception. With ms02 do you mean Explore/examples/2? But clicking the green box does nothing. Same for the 3rd box labeled Khan. The first box has a dark blue top for some reason, the others are light. Oh. Trying again the tops now are blue too, and I can get to those lessons. Not quite sure how to get back from the Khan practice though (except for closing the tab). Is this just a local copy of some webpage from Khan academy? - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] I know India
Hi, Some time ago, someone ask for a version of Conozco America (I know America)with the map of the region of India.After that, I'm started with it but I can't continued.This weekend, I have a bit of time and decide finish for a very basic first version.The result, here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4587 The activity needs much more work. This version only have information about thestates and the capital of that states. Now, I want to make the principal cities. Regards! Alan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] I know India
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago, someone ask for a version of Conozco America (I know America) with the map of the region of India. After that, I'm started with it but I can't continued. This weekend, I have a bit of time and decide finish for a very basic first version. The result, here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4587 The activity needs much more work. This version only have information about the states and the capital of that states. Now, I want to make the principal cities. Regards! Attached are the Indian cities listed in ISO 3166-2 (Cities_india) You can find a lot more by looking at the links from here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lists_of_cities_in_India cjl Cities_india Description: Binary data ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] I know India
Dear Alan I am from India and will be happy to help you with this. If you tell me what data you need I can help you construct it one data set at a time. I will be in the USA for two months starting July 5th and will have a lot more time too to do this. Also Prof Sameer Verma (copied here) and I along with HBCSE helped start the KMR Foundation's olpc project in Hyderabad and have reached out to Vasanta the coordinator that we could help from here if they need anything. Warm regards Harriet Harriet Vidyasagar www.outofindia.net www.womenofindia.net INDIA: 91-99011 66276 USA: 1-301-649-2240 On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago, someone ask for a version of Conozco America (I know America) with the map of the region of India. After that, I'm started with it but I can't continued. This weekend, I have a bit of time and decide finish for a very basic first version. The result, here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4587 The activity needs much more work. This version only have information about the states and the capital of that states. Now, I want to make the principal cities. Regards! Alan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] I know India
Hi, Now, I'm making the cities..You seeConozco America ? http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 and Conozco Uruguay ? http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4199 At the begin of the activity, appears a basic story that gives to thechildren a challenge to resolve: In Conozco Uuguay: the spaceship of a litlle marcian explotes and theparts of the spaceship falls on diferents points of the map. The idea iscollect all for that the marcian returns to their planet. In Conozco America: a boy will have a test in the next day.. and not studies nothing! The idea is help with it. For Conozco India, I'm not have a excuse to the childrens..You think of anything? Regards! Alan From: outofin...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:27:33 +0530 To: alan...@hotmail.com; sve...@sfsu.edu; kmrfoundat...@gmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-in...@googlegroups.com; administra...@kmrfoundation.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] I know India Dear Alan I am from India and will be happy to help you with this. If you tell me what data you need I can help you construct it one data set at a time. I will be in the USA for two months starting July 5th and will have a lot more time too to do this. Also Prof Sameer Verma (copied here) and I along with HBCSE helped start the KMR Foundation's olpc project in Hyderabad and have reached out to Vasanta the coordinator that we could help from here if they need anything. Warm regards Harriet Harriet Vidyasagar www.outofindia.net www.womenofindia.net INDIA: 91-99011 66276 USA: 1-301-649-2240 On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago, someone ask for a version of Conozco America (I know America)with the map of the region of India.After that, I'm started with it but I can't continued. This weekend, I have a bit of time and decide finish for a very basic first version.The result, here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4587 The activity needs much more work. This version only have information about thestates and the capital of that states. Now, I want to make the principal cities. Regards! Alan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] I know India
Hi Alan and everybody, Congrats ! Very interesting game to discover the Incredible India :) Here my first idea : Maybe we can help, a blue avatar (in reference to the holies avatars Krishna, Rama, shiva ...etc) to discover specialities of each part of India, like foods, music instruments and styles, monuments and temples...etc In each part, the avatar can change its behavior, color, cloths or posture, ... What do you think ? Ready to help ! Lilia On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Now, I'm making the cities.. You seeConozco America ? http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4464 and Conozco Uruguay ? http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4199 At the begin of the activity, appears a basic story that gives to the children a challenge to resolve: In Conozco Uuguay: the spaceship of a litlle marcian explotes and the parts of the spaceship falls on diferents points of the map. The idea is collect all for that the marcian returns to their planet. In Conozco America: a boy will have a test in the next day.. and not studies nothing! The idea is help with it. For Conozco India, I'm not have a excuse to the childrens.. You think of anything? Regards! Alan -- From: outofin...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:27:33 +0530 To: alan...@hotmail.com; sve...@sfsu.edu; kmrfoundat...@gmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc-in...@googlegroups.com; administra...@kmrfoundation.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] I know India Dear Alan I am from India and will be happy to help you with this. If you tell me what data you need I can help you construct it one data set at a time. I will be in the USA for two months starting July 5th and will have a lot more time too to do this. Also Prof Sameer Verma (copied here) and I along with HBCSE helped start the KMR Foundation's olpc project in Hyderabad and have reached out to Vasanta the coordinator that we could help from here if they need anything. Warm regards Harriet Harriet Vidyasagar www.outofindia.net www.womenofindia.net INDIA: 91-99011 66276 USA: 1-301-649-2240 On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn alan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Some time ago, someone ask for a version of Conozco America (I know America) with the map of the region of India. After that, I'm started with it but I can't continued. This weekend, I have a bit of time and decide finish for a very basic first version. The result, here: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4587 The activity needs much more work. This version only have information about the states and the capital of that states. Now, I want to make the principal cities. Regards! Alan ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Learn activity
Hi, I am glad you were able to get it to work. I am still trying to figure out a more robust way to do this. Perhaps, I could set up an online site somewhere (e.g. karma.sugarlabs.org) so that the content can be obtained from that site (in lieu of a school server). Those lines in the code are left-overs from a debugging effort. I'll remove them in learn-52. They actually are 'harmless'. In saying that the usb drives will not be mounted in /media do you mean they will be mounted somewhere else or that automount will be disabled? The problem with Firefox is the same as all previous attempts to provide a Firefox activity. The parent class, activity.py creates a top-level window. However, ported programs as Firefox create their own top-level window. This shows up on the frame as a grey smudge. The solution is probably a move to webkit; however, the webkit installed on the Sugar build I am using (852) is not current and does not support svg in html5. The activity is unfinished and has been constantly evolving based on experience at the deployments. The 'authoring' elements, for example, are relatively new and untested. The role button (staff, p4, p5, and p6) allows simulation of the way the activity works in a deployment. There the students and staff are identified. Staff can access any lessons on the system and can add or modify lessons. The students have access only to the lessons for their level and, instead of the edit button, have a check mark which allows them to commit the results of an activity and move on to the next. The only obvious effect of changing the role is that the Laboratory button is not visible in p4, p5, and p6. You will also see that the second level menu (showing courses for p4, p5, and p6) is omitted and the activity moves directly to the milestone ladder. In the examples in Explore, the first milestone has examples of basic activities which can be created directly in the activity. The second milestone are examples of lessons using Sugar activities. The third (Memorize), fourth (Turtle Art), and sixth (British Council) should work. Actually, the British Council example does not launch a Sugar activity. The first will work if ShowNTell is installed. The second, Quiz example and fifth, Wordsearch example will not work at the moment. Both of these activities need an update so that they can work with a bundle loaded from the Journal. The reason for the green (actually cyan) and blue tops is to show whether the activity has been downloaded from the usb key (school server). The unit of transfer from the usb (schoolserver) is a milestone. In the milestone ladder, the light blue (cyan) color shows a milestone which is not available on the XO. Clicking on the milestone downloads it. The cap is then blue. This requires the usb key to be mounted (or a connection to the schoolserver). However, milestones in blue can be used without the usb key (or connection to the schoolserver). This is in some ways the core feature of the activity. It allows the students to take home their lessons while using the school server to provide the storage capacity not available on the XO. The Laboratory is intended for use by teachers (staff). It is not visible in the student role (p4, p5, or p6). The easiest way to return to Learn after launching another Sugar activity (the Khan academy video is played by the Jukebox activity because at the moment I am unable to get audio with the vidoe tag) is to quit the launched activity (Jukebox). Naturally, you could switch back to Learn on the frame). Thanks again for your time and patience. If you have any suggestions for improving the documentation, install process or the activity, they will be greatly appreciated. You have already given me plenty to do. Thanks, Tony On 06/20/2012 12:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 2012-06-19, at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote: 5. Make sure the Kls_demo_1.tar.bz2 file is unpacked on a usb drive. The Learn activity checks all the mounted drives for a folder: kls. That was the missing puzzle piece. I's still weird to require the USB drive even after I copied everything to the activity's content folder already. Why? In any case, it looks like I was mislead by these lines in your code: cmd = 'cp -r ~/Documents/karma' cmd = cmd + ' ~/Activities/Learn.activity/content/' subprocess.call(cmd,shell=True) Also note that in the new OS, USB drives will not appear in /media anymore. Even after I fixed all that manually, it still does not work. The activity itself fails to start and show anything useful. It appears to only launch the web server and Firefox. In a separate window. Not fullscreen. Firefox shows only a directory listing, not the lessons. Quitting Firefox leaves the web server running. If we can surmount the install problems, it should show the main screen seen in the screen shot on the website. With the kls directory unpacked on the
