On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and
>>someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to
>>end users?
>
> Hmm. That sounds rigid to me.
>
> I suggest transforming it into this instead:
>
>
Dear All,
I just saw a request for successful document OLPC deployment across the globe
to be shared with the OLPC India team.
Could you please share any URLs, ppts, documents that you think are good
examples of OLPC deployment/ May be share on this listserv or just email to
su...@olpcindi
I just thought I would take a minute to fill in the Sugar on a Stick
back story and summarize the thread. That way we can let it ferment a
bit before we get back to it at the next marketing meeting.
Last August Brian Jordan and I made the original Sugar on a USB memory
stick at the XO-Sugar Book S
Hi Again,
We have had an interesting discussion going over at the Support Gang lists.
This evening I got this message from Martiin Dengler about it:
"I found this a great exchange and forwarded some of it to the OLPC UK mailing
list as it's qui
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:17:09AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> I'm having difficulty with this launch (which was originally planned
> for three months from now :-)
>
> We're making it, but it's a pressure situation...
"It'd be nice" was meant without its usual sarcastic implication,
sorry. I did m
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Tony Forster wrote:
>>It's working. You can see the palettes at
>
>>http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/c/cd/Iconic_Turtle_Art.odt
>
>>I'll extract some Journal entries using these tiles tomorrow and post
>>them, along with a bundle of .svg files of tiles and palettes
I'm having difficulty with this launch (which was originally planned
for three months from now :-)
We're making it, but it's a pressure situation...
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:50:00AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
>> Martin - we worked out Flav
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:50:00AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
> Martin - we worked out Flavors at the marketing meetings
Ok. It'd be nice if there was a mail sometime stating that. I guess
your one a few minutes ago was that mail.
> Sean
Martin
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Sean
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:16:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
>> I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
>> linked to any one distro.
>
> Laudab
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:16:44PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote:
> I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
> linked to any one distro.
Laudable goal, but please don't underestimate how much work this is.
I think Sebastian and David have an idea what's involved, but f
This has been the most sobering email yet... practical and logical...
lets see if we can keep going in a constructive route like this
kind regards,
David
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote:
> I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
> linked t
I agree with much of what has been said. Sugar on a Stick should not be
linked to any one distro.
The way I look at it is there are currently potentially three ways a kid can
get access to "their" Sugar.
1. One-to-One Laptops - Each kid gets a laptop.
2. Virtualization - When you are connected to
Sean... u stated it very correctly. Lets leave whats under the hood,
there where its supposed to be... we are driving a car, and whether
thats a mercedes, bmw or ford really shouldnt matter as long as it
drives now if u want specific items in your car or u want your car
to drive in a particular
Hi,
>> I completely disagree.
>>
>> To me, SoaS is a specific distribution coined by Sugar
>> enthusiasts (who happen to also most/all of them also to be
>> Sugar developers).
> I disagree as well. I'm quite satisfied with SugarLabs' support
> and usage of the SoaS .ISO as
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:26:53PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:45:45PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
> >can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
> >Right now, every time its mentioned it always uses th
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:28:09PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
> ["Sugar on a Stick"] should [...] describe the medium by which sugar
> is delivered (a usb stick) Nowhere is there any mention of something
> distro specific, nor should there be.
I'm amused that a few meme-weeks ago we had a disc
ok,
This is becoming silly...
Fedora nor Sugarlabs (and I think I consider myself quite a central
contributor to sugarlabs) does not have a patent, trademark or
anything else that should somehow allow it to kidnap the term sugar on
a stick, which is a far too generic term to be kidnapped by anyon
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Hi Sean and the rest of you all,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:38:02PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
>For me, Sugar on a Stick (or on a liveCD, or in virtualization, or as
>a session) is about a "Sugar" experience, not a "Sugar on an
>underlying distro/me
I have only one thing to say in response: IAEP ;-)
As much as I want to use Sugar to encourage people in a particular
direction with their other software choices, it seems that SoaS as
conceived should remain largely above the fray of what's under the
hood. That just scares many away, especially w
Hi Sean and All,
Could you include something about the Contributors Program in the press
release? I will be doing a 30 min Virtual Session at NECC Unplugged (Tues June
30 from 11:00-11:30 EDT) where folks can learn more about the Contributors
program and have their questions about it answered.
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:28:09PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>Nowhere is there any mention of something distro specific, nor should
>there be.
Please leave it to each distribution to babtise their work.
>I am actually quite surprised that
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, David Van Assche wrote:
> And I forgot the actual address of the site of course:
Learn something new already, huh? ;-)
Looks very interesting!
Best,
Zonker
--
Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
openSUSE Community Manager: http://zonker.opensuse.org
Blogs: http://blogs.zd
+1 Bert and others
Outside of the opensource world I've seen many non-mainstream groups become
too thinly spread due the many dedicated individuals involved together. I've
seen in first hand in a few different sports, and know of it in a couple of
other examples, such as French left wing politica
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> I'm very pleased to announce the first early preview of a new generation
> of SoaS XO-1 images.
Excellent news, thanks!
> Put them on a USB key or a SD card, plug them into your XO ...
Yes!
> ... and execute:
>
> copy-nand u:\devxo-1.
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ATTENDEE;
I think you do not get what is so "special" with Android.
1. They killed the braindamaged X driver model and put the driver where
it belongs, the kernel. Just like Windows NT and OS-X already did.
Finally it is fast and really supports hardware acceleration! Did I
mention that it has redraw pr
> There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/
> Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it.
>
> Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could
> get them to at least say whether they're working on it?
>
htt
> My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible
> language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they
> will add more languages, though.
>
Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities
consists of <1000 lines of code.
> A mor
> Technologically the phone and the computer are quickly converging.
> They are just coming at the problem from different points of view.
> Phones focus on power consumption and size. Netbooks focus on screen
> size and general use computing.
>
> If the new ARM technology is as good inside device
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:54:46PM +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote:
20k$/month for an internet connection, wow!
Sorry, typo. "Just" 10k$/month. Still wonder how than can afford that.
CU Sascha
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On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 02:10:14PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
I saw this too:
http://blog.wizzy.com/post/OLPC-and-Classmate-in-Nigeria
Great, just what I needed for my seminar! 20k$/month for an internet
connection, wow!
I couldn't find any technical information about the solution, although
it
For me, Sugar on a Stick (or on a liveCD, or in virtualization, or as
a session) is about a "Sugar" experience, not a "Sugar on an
underlying distro/meta-OS/hardware" experience. No disrespect to the
massive effort that goes into packaging and adapting Sugar to a distro
(and I am certainly aware th
Well, I'm not going to get dug deeper into a semantic discussion here.
My only point, and I think its quite clear to most people is that the
use of the words sugar on a stick are not solely the property of one
distribution (fedora) and ought not to be coupled with just one
distribution. It should (
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:55:15PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>The term SoaS actually came from the ubuntu derived Sugar on a stick.
>so by your logic, as it was 'coined' by an individual who chose to put
>sugar on a usb stick using ubuntu,
And I forgot the actual address of the site of course:
www.linux-for-education.org
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM, David Van Assche wrote:
> Hi there,
> We've just launched a pretty decent start for a linux for education
> portal that should contain hundreds (we already have about 50) totally
>
Hi there,
We've just launched a pretty decent start for a linux for education
portal that should contain hundreds (we already have about 50) totally
creative commons or similar free license courses that can be used
online directly (guest access to all courses) or downloaded to export
into one's
right, otherwise, imagine I call the openSUSE cd version SoaC, Sugar
on a CD or even SoaVM Sugar on a Virtual Machine am I the only one
who see the broken logic here?
David Van assche
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Benjamin M.
Schwartz wrote:
> This is just a naming problem. "Sugar on a St
This is just a naming problem. "Sugar on a Stick" is a generic
descriptive phrase that has been repurposed as a proper noun. This
inevitably leads to confusion, because the two meanings do not agree.
I encourage the developers of the Fedora-derived image to adopt a new
name, to solve this proble
Well, that ship sailed quite a while ago. I find it hard to believe
that you missed the significant publicity surrounding Sugar being
available on openSUSE in ALL formats (cd/dvd/usb/vm appliance) as I've
been touting that for at least 2 months now. In fact the collaboration
sessions that have been
Well, here is where I totally disagree. The term SoaS actually came
from the ubuntu derived Sugar on a stick. so by your logic, as it was
'coined' by an individual who chose to put sugar on a usb stick using
ubuntu, who by the same logic is the sole owner and user of that term.
I think that really
On 18.06.2009, at 20:28, David Van Assche wrote:
> Soas = sugar on a stick whether that be on Fedora, Suse, debian,
> or mandriva... they are all the same thing, and I would argue SoaS is
> NOT a distro... just a dsitribution mechanism... for example, I call
> my opensuse based sugar on stick
I'm sorry, I must have my head in a sandbox, I somehow missed that
there is a OpenSuSE-based SoaS too.
I can say the following: we haven't felt the need to describe Sugar on
a Stick in marketing/PR materials as "Linux", or "Fedora", or anything
but "Sugar on a Stick". For a good reason, it's not i
Another collaboration session was help on June 17,2009. Here is what we
found out:
There were up to 30 users online during testing, approximately 8-10 active
users.
Please anyone who attended the testing, reply with your comments.
First, after correct configuration, the jabber.sugarlabs.org serv
sorry ended up going to Sean only...
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Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Press release flurry planning
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To: Sean DALY
Soas = sugar on a stick whether that be on
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On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 07:45:45PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
>Right now, every time its mentioned it always use
I beg everyone's pardon, I was under the impression that SoaS is
Fedora-specific... are there plans to do versions based on other
distros?
Sean
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> (excluding IAEP from cc list)
>
> On 18.06.2009, at 19:45, David Van Assche wrote:
>
>> Anywa
Sean and others
can we please try and use the term SoaS slighlty more agnostically.
Right now, every time its mentioned it always uses the Fedora backend
without question or debate. I think of it a little like when someone
says write me an office letter (and its quitely assumed by everyonen
th
We've discussed my idea to do a "flurry" of press releases over the
next couple of weeks, coinciding with our presence/sessions at:
* LinuxTag
Berlin
June 24-27
http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en.html
* Free & Open Source Software in Education (FOSSED)
Bethel, Maine
June 24-26
http://www.fossed.com
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http://www.dailymotion.com/sugarlabs
The newly created Sugar Labs Dailymotion channel is the perfect place
to find Activity vids and as we get more in, will be a primary source.
Sean
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Martin
Dengler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the UK we've the need to give teachers an i
Hi,
In the UK we've the need to give teachers an introduction to what they
can do with activities and Sugar without aid of an XO or any running
Sugar environment[1].
I think this means we need short video links that showcase activties
and Sugar.
Are there any video links that would be useful for
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 03:50, David Farning wrote:
> We have seriously hijacked the original thread:(
If we kept the subject line in sync with the threads' topic, people
could have an easier time to know what to read and what not and we
could resist better splitting mls.
But maybe we cannot rely
On 06/18/2009 10:57 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009
> Quoting that page:
>
>> Not permitted by Linuxtag:
>
>> * wireless access points (You are not permitted to operate y
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009
Quoting that page:
Not permitted by Linuxtag:
* wireless access points (You are not permitted to operate your
private wireless LAN. Please take this serious.
On 06/18/2009 10:20 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
> http://www.pwrnewmedia.com/2009/pta_90612/index.html
For once a positive sounding study.
Thanks for sharing,
Simon
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Hey,
I have updated our Linuxtag page yesterday with the latest news.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009
Upside:
Our presence is getting into shape - and we have quite an interesting
program together already.
Downside:
Arbeit zieht arbeit nach sich!* There are some
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