Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Fri, 18-09-2009 a las 16:27 -0400, Chris Ball escribió: Please volunteer by replying to this mail if you're interested, and please do so by Thursday September 24th so that we can run the vote at the Friday September 25th SLOBs meeting. I can't volunteer to serve as a member of the volunteer

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/20 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: I can't volunteer to serve as a member of the volunteer panel, but I'd like to offer my viewpoint on this issue. I agree and I also feel that we have consensus on those 2 things (SL should promote SoaS, SL should treat distributors equally). The

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Sugar-devel] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:47, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/9/20 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: I can't volunteer to serve as a member of the volunteer panel, but I'd like to offer my viewpoint on this issue. I agree and I also feel that we have consensus on those 2 things

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Debian-olpc-devel] Glucose 0.84 and 0.85 packaged for Debian!

2009-09-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 03:24:23AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 06:49:00PM -0500, David Farning wrote: 2. manually sync /debian from git.debian.org to git.gnewsense.org 3. do final work in git.gnewsense.org Is Alioth such a cruel place to work together? Is it me -

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs Sugar on a Stick and each individual team and product Fedora Sugar on a Stick, OpenSUSE Sugar on a Stick, etc. From time to time SLs would decide to call and market as Sugar on a Stick a particular release of a particular

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/9/20 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs Sugar on a Stick and each individual team and product Fedora Sugar on a Stick, OpenSUSE Sugar on a Stick, etc. From time to time SLs would decide to call and market as Sugar on a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
But the idea is for SLs to market only Sugar on a Stick, whatever it is based on. Exactly. So what it is based on is (or should be) irrelevant to the customers. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. Anonymous On Sunday 20 September 2009 07:24:42

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/9/20 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: But the idea is for SLs to market only Sugar on a Stick, whatever it is based on. Exactly. So what it is based on is (or should be) irrelevant to the customers. Right, that's why the longer names such as Debian Sugar on a Stick would refer to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/9/20 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: I don't quite understand this decision panel stuff. Is a different decision panel elected every time there is an undecided issue at hand? Or do we elect one group that remains in place for all unanswered questions, present and future? I

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Sun, 20-09-2009 a las 09:33 -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka escribió: Because of my ignorant ways in interpreting things, which I trust is also the way of the populace :-), I think the wisest thing is to keep the SOaS moniker as a basic SLs thing, of course, of course recognizing Sebastian. I

[IAEP] XO Special interest group at Sugar Labs

2009-09-20 Thread David Farning
In some of the other threads we have been seeing an interest in the Sugar Labs Community improving the Sugar experience on the XO. As such, I would like to create a XO SIG within Sugar Labs. I have filed an initial draft application with the OLPC Contributors program for 5 loaner machines for

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Gerald Ardito
I have set up a week site that has some preliminary research findings. You can visit it here: http://web.me.com/geraldar/The_Shape_of_Disruption/Welcome.html I would appreciate any questions or feedback. Gerald On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Ian Thomson
Hi Gerald, Very interested in your project and research. Did you manage to gather any baseline data on the students as independent learners before the project started? Also interested to know if the school authorities and the teachers understood the disruptive nature of the project and

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Gerald Ardito
Ian, I am just starting, and will be collecting baseline data. And my principal and superintendent and the teachers are on board for the kind of disruption, which is great. More as it happens. Gerald On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Ian Thomson i...@spc.int wrote: Hi Gerald, Very

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
Gerald, I am curious about your choice to evaluate a middleschool as opposed to an elementary school. Sugar and the OLPC XO were designed for elementary-school-aged children. regards. -walter On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, I am just

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Gerald Ardito
Walter, It just happens that in my district the 5th graders are in the middle school. I consider them elementary students and they are still taught in an elementary school fashion. Does that make sense? Gerald On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, It just happens that in my district the 5th graders are in the middle school. I consider them elementary students and they are still taught in an elementary school fashion. Does that make sense? Sure.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

2009-09-20 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Philippe Clérié wrote: I don't quite understand this decision panel stuff. Is a different decision panel elected every time there is an undecided issue at hand? Or do we elect one group that remains in place for all unanswered questions, present and future? I sympathize since I'm also a

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Gerald Ardito
I really like that phrase, Sugar sweet-spot. I completely agree. Gerald On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, It just happens that in my district the 5th graders

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Yamandu Ploskonka
Gerald Ardito wrote: Walter, It just happens that in my district the 5th graders are in the middle school. I consider them elementary students and they are still taught in an elementary school fashion. Does that make sense? Gerald No, not at all. Shame on you! :-) It's so funny,

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-20 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: It's so funny, this thing about Sugar and the XO being for elementary children, and then we go around serependitiously messing things up. In Bolivia Primary goes up to 8th grade... So it's OK to use them for 8th grade there and not elsewhere? Around OLPC, we

Re: [IAEP] XO Special interest group at Sugar Labs

2009-09-20 Thread Ian Thomson
Hi David, Very interested. Keep us posted please Ian Thomson RICS and OLPC Coordinator Noumea SPC Phone +687 26 01 44 -Original Message- From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of David Farning Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:50 AM

Re: [IAEP] XO Special interest group at Sugar Labs

2009-09-20 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/21 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org: My idea is to start by getting a working version of the current versions of Sugar and Fedora running on an XO.  The SIG might lose some of the specific hardware benefits and mass deployment features on the first couple of iterations.  But, it can

Re: [IAEP] Contents of IAEP Digest, Vol 18, Issue 78

2009-09-20 Thread Tabitha Roder
Anyway, as a muggle or someone with little information (a.k.a. the public) I actually thought, could say was sure, eve, that Sugarlabs was pushing SOaS as their flagship product, maybe SugarLive was there around somewhere, or course (?!?!) Sugar for the XO, whose status seems so unclear...