Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
   .. The only activity shipped with Sugar is a very old version of Turtle 
 Art./

 Plan Ceibal installed that Sugar 0.87.1, (on Ubuntu 10.04.3) because they 
 didn't Know that TurtleArt Runs on
 Ubunto+Gnome, they think that running Turtle Art under Sugar is the only Way 
 to install it.

 Turtleart runs under Gnome. Unfortunately later XO OS's hide the Activities 
 directory and do not allow read access. If you do not have the permissions or 
 skill you can not then run Turtleart in Gnome.

 It might be good to include Turtleart with Gnome, in the same way Inkscape, 
 Gnumeric and Abiword work out of the box. Is this practical?

Indeed it would, I didn't even realise it ran under gnome. Walter, any
chance of getting a .desktop file shipped as part of the release to
make it easy to run under gnome, let me know if you want me to help
get that done.

Peter
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
   .. The only activity shipped with Sugar is a very old version of Turtle 
 Art./

 Plan Ceibal installed that Sugar 0.87.1, (on Ubuntu 10.04.3) because they 
 didn't Know that TurtleArt Runs on
 Ubunto+Gnome, they think that running Turtle Art under Sugar is the only 
 Way to install it.

 Turtleart runs under Gnome. Unfortunately later XO OS's hide the Activities 
 directory and do not allow read access. If you do not have the permissions 
 or skill you can not then run Turtleart in Gnome.

 It might be good to include Turtleart with Gnome, in the same way Inkscape, 
 Gnumeric and Abiword work out of the box. Is this practical?

 Indeed it would, I didn't even realise it ran under gnome. Walter, any
 chance of getting a .desktop file shipped as part of the release to
 make it easy to run under gnome, let me know if you want me to help
 get that done.

 Peter


It already ships with a .desktop file. There is an RPM for TA that is
woefully out of date. I'd love help getting it up to snuff. I guess it
is time for me to finally learn something about packaging.

-walter

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[IAEP] Concurso de Ciencia para estudiantes entre 14 y 18 años

2011-10-12 Thread Carlos Rabassa
Se anunció recientemente un Concurso de Ciencia para estudiantes entre 14 y 18 
años de todos los países del mundo.

Este es el sitio del Concurso:

http://www.youtube.com/spacelab?feature=inp-pr-space

Copio y traduzco,  de este sitio,  la descripción general que se da sobre el 
concurso:

=

Traduzco:

YouTube, Lenovo y Space Adventures están haciendo un concurso para encontrar un 
experimento espacial asombroso,  con premios extraordinarios para los ganadores.

Lean la guía Cómo Participar, las Reglas Oficiales y las Preguntas Frecuentes 
para entender completamente lo que necesitan hacer para participar en este 
concurso.

Los finalistas de cada grupo etario (14-16 y 17-18) y de cada región global 
(Las Américas, Europa, Medio Oriente, África y Asia-Pacífico) participarán en 
una votación por parte del público en YouTube y serán juzgados [los 
experimentos propuestos] por nuestro panel de expertos internacionales.  Las 
entradas para participar deberán recibirse no más tarde del 7 de Diciembre.

=

Copio:
YouTube, Lenovo, and Space Adventures are running a competition to find an 
amazing space experiment with some extraordinary prizes for the winners.

Read the How to Enter guide, the Official Rules, and the FAQs to fully 
understand what you need to do to enter the competition.

The finalists from each age group (14 - 16 and 17 - 18) and each global region 
(The Americas, Europe, Middle-East, Africa, and Asia-Pacific) will be put to 
the public vote on YouTube and judged by our international panel of experts. 
Entries must be received by December 7th.

=


Carlos Rabassa
Voluntario
Red de Apoyo al Plan Ceibal
Montevideo, Uruguay





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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:48 PM,  nanon...@mediagala.com wrote:
On 11/10/2011 09:38 p.m., Walter Bender wrote:
 .. The only activity shipped with Sugar is a very old version of Turtle
 Art.
 



 Plan Ceibal installed that Sugar 0.87.1, (on Ubuntu 10.04.3) because they
 didn't Know that TurtleArt Runs on Ubunto+Gnome, they think that running
 Turtle Art under Sugar is the only Way to install it.

 It is not my opinion, is what Plan Ceibal said on the official courseware to
 High school teachers.

 They teach that to the Professors that uses the Magellan. (that the reason
 to install Sugar was to run Turtle Art on Ubuntu)

 I Think they want Turtle Art and Etoys to run on a near future with the Lego
 robots that They already bought.


 They also installed under Gnome: Etoys, Geogebra, Tuxpaint, Mathgraph,
 Python Interpreter, Scratch, OpenOffice, Blender, Pitivi, etc.


 On the Sugar that is installed on Magellan LAptops there are many activities
 that don't Run at all (I don't know why).  Y tried to install many
 activities  and there are a few that runs.  BRowse don't Run, for example,
 (I installed it with a pendrive).  Turtle Art (the new one) runs OK, Write
 also, terminal, and the software update on the control panel.


 --

 In some High School and technical svhools they have The MAgellan both
 TEachers and Children , but only in the departmente of Canelones (500,000
 inhabitants).

 On the rest of Uruguayan High schools and technical Schools the Children
 have XO 1.5 (Sugar+Gnome) and  the teachers have the MAgellan
 (Ubuntu+Gnome+Handicapped Sugar)

 Teachers have a 160 Gb Magellan, and children an 8 Gb SSD Magellan

 


 Sorry for my English, I Hope it is almost understandable for you.


 Paolo Benini
 Montevideo


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Thanks for this update. Very helpful.

Re Browse, it is a know problem: the underlying library is no longer
maintained in Ubuntu, hence the switch to Surf, which uses Webkit. It
would be great to learn a bit more about what other activities run and
don't run. I imagine that Csound may not be installed, so many of the
music activities will not run, for example.

regards.

-walter


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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:03 AM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
   .. The only activity shipped with Sugar is a very old version of Turtle 
 Art./

 Plan Ceibal installed that Sugar 0.87.1, (on Ubuntu 10.04.3) because they 
 didn't Know that TurtleArt Runs on
 Ubunto+Gnome, they think that running Turtle Art under Sugar is the only Way 
 to install it.

 Turtleart runs under Gnome. Unfortunately later XO OS's hide the Activities 
 directory and do not allow read access. If you do not have the permissions or 
 skill you can not then run Turtleart in Gnome.

 It might be good to include Turtleart with Gnome, in the same way Inkscape, 
 Gnumeric and Abiword work out of the box. Is this practical?

 Tony


Turtle Art need not be installed in ~/Activities. You can unzip the
.xo file anywhere and run it from the command line: ./turtleart.py

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-12 Thread nanonano

/On 12/10/2011 09:30 a.m., Walter Bender wrote:
It would be great to learn a bit more about what other activities run and 
don't run. /





On the MAgallan MG2 (Classmate II) of Plan Ceibal with Ubuntu 10 , Gnome and Sugar, there are some activities that works 
and others don't work:


LOG - YES
TERMINAL - YES
TURTLE ART - YES
PAINT - YES
CALCULATOR - YES
MEMORIZE - YES
DISTANCE - YES
PIPPY  - YES

BROWSE - NO
WRITE - NO
SCRATCH - NO
READ - NO
TAM TAM EDIT - NO
TAM TAM SYNTH LAB - NO
TAM TAM EDIT - NO
ETOYS - NO

Paolo Benini
Montevideo
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