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Re: [IAEP] [XSCE] Video: Internet-in-a-Box in the Dominican Republic

[Sameer Verma]

Excellent! Thx for introducing the project to the folks at Columbia.

Sameer

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
> Fantastic video, even if I wish they/d credited "Internet-in-a-Box" (all of
> us, and our OLPC/Sugar origins) rather than crediting me!  I did not know
> this video was coming.  I've asked Columbia Univ folks(*) to more properly
> credit Internet-in-a-Box in future :)
>
>https://youtu.be/xI3Ed008Mxo
>
> (*) under the leadership of Columbia School of Journalism Professor Anne
> Nelson, whose grad student team did all the hard work in the Dominican
> Republic this spring.  Very honest mistake on their part, as our
> http://internet-in-a-Box.org and http://schoolserver.org web sites are
> indeed stale.
>
> Finally if you too are inspired by what rural health workers are doing for
> Haitians' rights-to-survive in the Dominican Republic, and want to build
> your very own digital library- please do read this important article at
> OpenSource.com (also just published) and feel free to ask us @
> http://iiab.io what you need to make it happen:
>
>How to create an Internet-in-a-Box on a Raspberry Pi
>Learn about this inexpensive device for students with restricted internet
>access and people in remote areas of the world not served by broadband.
>https://opensource.com/article/17/5/internet-in-a-box-raspberry-pi
>
> PS developing world hackers & offline content gurus please write me if you
> want to attend our larger http://OFF.NETWORK Wikipedia/OpenStreetMap
> Hackathon in August for hard-core implementers, --taking "meducational"
> humanitarian open content to the next level -- for schools, clinics,
> libraries truly everywhere.  Yes that means heading further into the hills
> than 5G Helicopter Celebrities, beyond even SUNY Potsdam where our hackathon
> will be held ;)  FYI our "Kiwix + Internet-in-Box + Offliners All" hackathon
> will be held in conjunction and right after Wikipedia's own annual community
> powwow in Montreal (https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org) co-located right in
> the same city with DebConf17 (https://debconf17.debconf.org).  Thanks in
> advance to open-access librarians / factivist developers all for getting in
> touch towards joining us from different corners of the globe!!
>
> "Always do right, this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
> Mark Twain



-- 
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Professor, Information Systems
San Francisco State University
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Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 110, Issue 44

[Tony Anderson]

I don't understand the discussion of the visa issue. The visa is issued 
by the Consulate of France in Lagos. Make the stipulation that the money 
will not be transferred until the visa is in the passport. No government 
official in France is involved.


The proposal seems clear. Scratch is paying for Samson's trip and 
SugarLabs funds will pay for Ibiam's trip. So naturally the amounts 
needed from the two organizations is similar.


Apparently Scratch is willing to handle the cash flow problem which is 
wonderful. Neither of these travelers have personal funds to pay 
expenses pending re-imbursement.


Tony



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1. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference
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2. Re: [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference (Adam Holt)


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Hello Adam,

The scratch community agrees to cover the $2,800 then get reimbursed as you
suggest.

So with this new development can we officially approve the motion so that
SFC can be inform about the reimbursement.

Ask you requested the Scratch community said funding they have for me is
around ~ €2200.

So i hope i have answer all questions.


On May 20, 2017 6:29 PM, "Adam Holt" <h...@laptop.org> wrote:

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com>
wrote:


On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:


As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully
thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend.  Likely an
individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
approved?  Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level contact
who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa will
be approved?


More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.


You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved.  A single
applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the French
government might be the best way.

3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance,

so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear.  Not reassuring
when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the event.
But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a
friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later if
nothing goes wrong with the visa?


I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it.


Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.

4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, what

community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or
contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to share?


I don't understand, could you explain more.


How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a more
permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?

(Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to specify
what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not just
social media, but that could be one part of it!)



ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has offered

to contribute?


They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), hotel,
foods and visa.


Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?

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[IAEP] Video: Internet-in-a-Box in the Dominican Republic

[Adam Holt]

Fantastic video, even if I wish they/d credited "Internet-in-a-Box" (all of
us, and our OLPC/Sugar origins) rather than crediting me!  I did not know
this video was coming.  I've asked Columbia Univ folks(*) to more properly
credit Internet-in-a-Box in future :)

   https://youtu.be/xI3Ed008Mxo

(*) under the leadership of Columbia School of Journalism Professor Anne
Nelson, whose grad student team did all the hard work in the Dominican
Republic this spring.  Very honest mistake on their part, as our
http://internet-in-a-Box.org and http://schoolserver.org web sites are
indeed stale.



*Finally if you too are inspired by what rural health workers are doing for
Haitians' rights-to-survive in the Dominican Republic, and want to build
your very own digital library- please do read this important article at
OpenSource.com (also just published) and feel free to ask us @
http://iiab.io  what you need to make it happen:**   How to
create an Internet-in-a-Box on a Raspberry Pi*
   Learn about this inexpensive device for students with restricted internet
   access and people in remote areas of the world not served by broadband.
   https://opensource.com/article/17/5/internet-in-a-box-raspberry-pi

PS developing world hackers & offline content gurus please write me if you
want to attend our larger http://OFF.NETWORK Wikipedia/OpenStreetMap
Hackathon in August for hard-core implementers, --taking "meducational"
humanitarian open content to the next level -- for schools, clinics,
libraries truly everywhere.  Yes that means heading further into the hills
than 5G Helicopter Celebrities, beyond even SUNY Potsdam where our
hackathon will be held ;)  FYI our "Kiwix + Internet-in-Box + Offliners
All" hackathon will be held in conjunction and right after Wikipedia's own
annual community powwow in Montreal (https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org)
co-located right in the same city with DebConf17 (
https://debconf17.debconf.org)
*.  Thanks in advance to open-access librarians / factivist developers all
for getting in touch towards joining us from different corners of the
globe!!*

"Always do right, this will gratify some people and astonish the rest."
Mark Twain
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Samson Goddy]

Thanks for your input Tymon,

However i perfectly understand that Sugar Labs is NGO.. And also getting a
Schengen visa is also hard too. But also, bare in mind that before leaving
any country, you have to show prove of paying for your flight and stay in
the arrival country which in this case is france. I also made calls with
the french embassy, we know what we are facing. We already reached out to
the people inviting us from france about some documentations and bank
statements since we are invited. Even the 30,000 euros health insurance is
been taken care of by the team in France.

If $2,800 is alot of money for the community as most people said. It is
fine, i just wish you can come stay in Nigeria for a week then make travel
arrangement.

I will keep reaching and helping this community in the best way i can,
after all i went to Nairobi without Sugar Labs support. which i happen to
spend more than i expected before of the foreign exchange rate.

I hate repeating myself.. So i will stop replying any questions that is
already answered concerning this motion.

Like i said, it is up to the community to decide how Sugar Labs runs.

i want to thank everyone who voted and made some comments but now, i think
i am done talking.

FYI, i am not mad or angry, but somehow surprise but not totally not
surprised.

Regards
Samson G

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Tymon Radzik  wrote:

> I am not anyhow permitted to vote, I'd like to share my mind with you,
> though. I completely support Lionel's opinion.
>
> I think Sugar Labs, as every NGO, should be really careful and strict
> while making financial decisions, especially these related to spending
> money we collected. Costs to benefits calculation ought to be always made
> and well considered. I do not see this high expense ($2800 is a lot of
> money) as something necessary and possibly more rewarding for our community
> than having OLPC representation. With all respect to Samson and Ibiam and
> the great work they do - I think it is not it our interest to fund such
> journeys. Private and more public matters need to be distinguished.
>
> As a EU citizen, who has already helped some foreigners to get through
> arrival process to Europe, I can confirm getting Schengen visa nowadays due
> to the refugee crisis seems to be definitely not easy.
>
> Best,
> Tymon
>
> pt., 19 maj 2017 o 21:13 użytkownik Lionel Laské 
> napisał:
>
>>
>> I'm not for the idea:
>> - It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They
>> could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do,
>> the come from France - compared to Nigeria.
>> - Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government is
>> sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.
>>
>>Lionel.
>>
>>
>> 2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez :
>>
>>> I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P
>>>
>>> But as I already said, its +1 from me
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1

 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma  wrote:

> I second.
>
> Sameer
>
> On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" 
> wrote:
>
> Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <
> samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that
>> since wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs 
>> member
>> in this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, 
>> so
>> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
>> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
>> policy.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Samson Goddy
>>
>> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
>> igna...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> It's +1 from me :)
>>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are
>>> doing, awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ignacio.-
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <
>>> a...@kidsoncomputers.org> wrote:
>>>
 Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal.
 +1

 On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
 wrote:

 This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not
 a member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.

 Caryl

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender <
 walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Tymon Radzik]

I am not anyhow permitted to vote, I'd like to share my mind with you,
though. I completely support Lionel's opinion.

I think Sugar Labs, as every NGO, should be really careful and strict while
making financial decisions, especially these related to spending money we
collected. Costs to benefits calculation ought to be always made and well
considered. I do not see this high expense ($2800 is a lot of money) as
something necessary and possibly more rewarding for our community than
having OLPC representation. With all respect to Samson and Ibiam and the
great work they do - I think it is not it our interest to fund such
journeys. Private and more public matters need to be distinguished.

As a EU citizen, who has already helped some foreigners to get through
arrival process to Europe, I can confirm getting Schengen visa nowadays due
to the refugee crisis seems to be definitely not easy.

Best,
Tymon

pt., 19 maj 2017 o 21:13 użytkownik Lionel Laské 
napisał:

>
> I'm not for the idea:
> - It's possible than some OLPC France guys will be present there. They
> could present Sugar/Sugarizer to the conference as well. And if they do,
> the come from France - compared to Nigeria.
> - Are you sure to obtain a Visa for the conference ? French government is
> sometimes hard about Visa delivery to avoid illegal immigration.
>
>Lionel.
>
>
> 2017-05-19 18:10 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez :
>
>> I still don't know the difference of "seconded" or +1 to be honest :P
>>
>> But as I already said, its +1 from me
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM Walter Bender 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Sameer Verma  wrote:
>>>
 I second.

 Sameer

 On May 19, 2017 5:50 AM, "Walter Bender" 
 wrote:

 Perhaps someone can second the motion so we can begin voting?

 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samson Goddy <
 samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> Thank you all for the positive comments. But i am little sad that
> since wednesday, only one vote has been made. Where we have 7 SLOBs member
> in this community. I am pleading to other SLOBs member to come and vote, 
> so
> that i and Ibiam can have idea what to do next if this motion passes or
> not. Because if this motion pass, we will have to wait for SFC 30 days
> policy.
>
>
> Regards
> Samson Goddy
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
> igna...@sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> It's +1 from me :)
>> I've seen some pictures on Facebok and I love what you both are
>> doing, awesome work, Samson and Ibiam.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ignacio.-
>>
>> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Avni Khatri <
>> a...@kidsoncomputers.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Same. Not a member of SLOB but agree it's a well written proposal. +1
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a well thought out proposal for a worthy project. I am not a
>>> member of the SLOB so I can't vote. But I do hope it is approved.
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Walter Bender 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Samson and Ibiam are seeking funds to cover part of the cost to
>>> attend the Scratch Conference in Bordeaux France in July to promote 
>>> Sugar.
>>> The detailed proposal is here [1].
>>>
>>> Motion: Sugar Labs agrees to cover up to US$2800 for expenses
>>> related to traveling to the Scratch2017BDX, 17th to 22nd of July, 2017 
>>> for
>>> Samson Goddy and Ibiam Chihurumnaya.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/152VDfUcdcGOHOFBLT3lG15sUFpzBeuBCGiNAGCSOLj4/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> regards.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>> --
>>> Walter Bender
>>> Sugar Labs
>>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>> 
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Samson Goddy]

Hi Adam,

As you requested, i already made it clear to the scratch community about
the funding and reimbursement. I also forwarded our last mail to them, so
that they can see the situation about what is going on in Sugar Labs about
the motion. They already approve to send 500 euros to me, to cover ibiam's
passport first and some local flight bookings. They know the risk, if they
didn't agree i won't mail the first place.

Frankly speaking $2,800 is the cheapest budget i and ibiam came up with
based on my own proposed funding from the scratch community.

Please note. 1 Euro = 353 Nigerian naira, this might sounds funny but this
means things are expensive in Nigeria locally. You could do some googling.
$2,800 might sounds as a big deal to people leaving in the US or use
Dollars as their main currency but it doesn't work here in Nigeria.

*Note:* Remember we are converting this money to naira in other to spend
them in Nigeria

Things are more expensive here than in the U.S, my internet plan is almost
$100/month. Also the Proposed TA day in Nigeria that was proposed last year
didn't really work at because of the exchange rate in the country. FYI
iphone 7 was once sold for $2,300 in Nigeria.  So this is why technically
speaking this is the cheapest budget that can funds us locally and also
internationally to france.

I also mail SFC this is from Karen

"Hi Samson,

Thanks for keeping us in the loop! If the motion is approved, we'll work to
find a solution, paying by card whatever we can and exploring other options
for the rest. I leave it up to Adam, as he's the authorized representative
for Sugar, but it could be helpful for SLOBs to also specifically agree to
the cash advance, as it puts Sugar's money more at risk than the usual
approval.
"
i think i already explained how and what the $2,800 stands for in our
proposal. The Scratch community

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:

> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Adam,
>>
>> The scratch community agrees to cover the $2,800 then get reimbursed as
>> you suggest.
>>
>
> If Sugar Labs were to approve some such funds, does Scratch understand the
> risks that one or more visa might be denied by the French govt, and as such
> they might not be reimbursed at all?
>
> How do we get this (or similar) in writing, so as avoid painfully
> unecessary he-said/she-said conflicts between Scratch and Sugar Labs, when
> the risk that visa(s) are denied remains real in the utmost?
>


> So with this new development can we officially approve the motion so that
>> SFC can be inform about the reimbursement.
>>
>> Ask you requested the Scratch community said funding they have for me is
>> around ~ €2200.
>>
>
> €2200 is about $2500, seemingly almost covering the very large $2800
> requested sum.  Does this mean Sugar Labs' funds are in the end somewhat
> incidental?
>
> Or is this possibly a $2500 + $2800 trip?
>

>
> That would be astonishingly expensive if so, but in any case can you
> clarify fully+precisely who is risking how much money might disappear under
> different circumstances, and how this will be mitigated?  However
> unfortunate it would be if France denies visa(s) to you and/or Ibiam
> Chihurumnaya.
>
> So i hope i have answer all questions.
>>
>
> It bears reminding that you are requesting a much higher expenditure than
> Laura Vargas' recently requested ($500) on a proven multiyear Peru
> community project.  Honoring everyone's hard work as much as we can, I
> personally cannot vote for Sugar Labs to approve $2800 (or clarify precise
> sums) unless there are guarantees (with teeth) that funds (as noble as they
> may be) won't be lost.  And/or what precisely happens when funds are in
> fact lost.
>

> Very Respectfully - thanks to Scratch investors, Ibiam, Samson & All~
>
>
> On May 20, 2017 6:29 PM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>>>
 As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully
 thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend.  Likely an
 individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
 approved?  Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
 diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level contact
 who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa will
 be approved?

>>>
>>> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.
>>>
>>
>> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved.  A single
>> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the French
>> government might be the best way.
>>
>> 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance,
 so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear.  Not reassuring

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Adam Holt]

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Samson Goddy  wrote:

> Hello Adam,
>
> The scratch community agrees to cover the $2,800 then get reimbursed as
> you suggest.
>

If Sugar Labs were to approve some such funds, does Scratch understand the
risks that one or more visa might be denied by the French govt, and as such
they might not be reimbursed at all?

How do we get this (or similar) in writing, so as avoid painfully
unecessary he-said/she-said conflicts between Scratch and Sugar Labs, when
the risk that visa(s) are denied remains real in the utmost?

So with this new development can we officially approve the motion so that
> SFC can be inform about the reimbursement.
>
> Ask you requested the Scratch community said funding they have for me is
> around ~ €2200.
>

€2200 is about $2500, seemingly almost covering the very large $2800
requested sum.  Does this mean Sugar Labs' funds are in the end somewhat
incidental?

Or is this possibly a $2500 + $2800 trip?

That would be astonishingly expensive if so, but in any case can you
clarify fully+precisely who is risking how much money might disappear under
different circumstances, and how this will be mitigated?  However
unfortunate it would be if France denies visa(s) to you and/or Ibiam
Chihurumnaya.

So i hope i have answer all questions.
>

It bears reminding that you are requesting a much higher expenditure than
Laura Vargas' recently requested ($500) on a proven multiyear Peru
community project.  Honoring everyone's hard work as much as we can, I
personally cannot vote for Sugar Labs to approve $2800 (or clarify precise
sums) unless there are guarantees (with teeth) that funds (as noble as they
may be) won't be lost.  And/or what precisely happens when funds are in
fact lost.

Very Respectfully - thanks to Scratch investors, Ibiam, Samson & All~


On May 20, 2017 6:29 PM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>>
>>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully
>>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend.  Likely an
>>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
>>> approved?  Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
>>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level contact
>>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa will
>>> be approved?
>>>
>>
>> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.
>>
>
> You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved.  A single
> applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the French
> government might be the best way.
>
> 3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance,
>>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear.  Not reassuring
>>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the event.
>>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a
>>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later if
>>> nothing goes wrong with the visa?
>>>
>>
>> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it.
>>
>
> Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
> have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
> level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.
>
> 4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, what
>>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or
>>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to share?
>>>
>> I don't understand, could you explain more.
>>
>
> How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a more
> permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
> http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?
>
> (Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to specify
> what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not just
> social media, but that could be one part of it!)
>
>
>> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has offered
>>> to contribute?
>>>
>> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), hotel,
>> foods and visa.
>>
>
> Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] email motion re Scratch Conference

[Samson Goddy]

Hello Adam,

The scratch community agrees to cover the $2,800 then get reimbursed as you
suggest.

So with this new development can we officially approve the motion so that
SFC can be inform about the reimbursement.

Ask you requested the Scratch community said funding they have for me is
around ~ €2200.

So i hope i have answer all questions.


On May 20, 2017 6:29 PM, "Adam Holt"  wrote:

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Samson Goddy 
wrote:

> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Adam Holt  wrote:
>
>> As such, a more financially judicious gamble might involve a carefully
>> thought-out proposal for one single individual to attend.  Likely an
>> individual who has the strongest track record of getting EU visas
>> approved?  Or perhaps an individual who has established contacts /
>> diplomatic connections within the French government, a high-level contact
>> who cares about children and free software etc, to guarantee the visa will
>> be approved?
>>
>
> More explanation please, i didn't really get the point.
>

You need to establish evidence that the visa will be approved.  A single
applicant (rather than two) confirmed by a high-level contact in the French
government might be the best way.

3) Laura Vargas is correct SFC cannot generally provide funds in advance,
>> so the mechanics of this entire proposal remain unclear.  Not reassuring
>> when flight prices are already rising less than 2 months before the event.
>> But possibly a (presumed) attendee can arrange a personal loan from a
>> friend, to cover all funds in advance, to be reimbursed by SFC later if
>> nothing goes wrong with the visa?
>>
>
> I will reach out to the scratch team in bordeaux then discuss about it.
>

Speak to them about the above legal question too -- it is possible they
have high-level contacts within the French govt, to provide the highest
level of assurance that a particular visa will be approved.

4) If an improved proposal is indeed appropriate at this late stage, what
>> community deliverables/artifacts will the attendee(s) publish and/or
>> contribute in the end, preferably on the public record for all to share?
>>
> I don't understand, could you explain more.
>

How specifically will attendee(s) document their contributions, in a more
permanent/global way -- whether via published photos, videos, ASLO,
http://scratch.mit.edu and/or a formal report?

(Most grant proposals of almost any kind require the applicant to specify
what kinds of community documentation will result from the trip...not just
social media, but that could be one part of it!)


> ASIDE: What is the exact/estimated total that Scratch itself has offered
>> to contribute?
>>
> They will pay my(Samson) flight (PHC > Lagos > Paris > Bordeaux), hotel,
> foods and visa.
>

Can you provide a rough estimate for this in USD?

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