Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software

2013-01-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Yama Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: is it Nell replacing Sugar? :-p Just to be clear, I had nothing to do with the XO Learning software, and it is not Nell. (But I don't think an Android-based educational tablet is a bad idea.) --scott -- (

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software

2013-01-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: In the latest *Make Your Own Sugar Activities!* we'll have chapters on making Activities using HTML 5. You can put HTML 5 inside a simple Python Activity wrapper using WebKit. You could take the same HTML 5 and create an

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software

2013-01-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Lionel Laske wrote what was supposed to be the second chapter, where he talks about HTML 5 and making JavaScript interface with Python. That chapter is finished and published:

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software

2013-01-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
These questions deserve a complete response, but I don't have all the answers myself. (I'm OLPC Foundation, not OLPC Association.) The short version of the story is that OLPC-A has licensed out the XO name to two groups, in an effort to increase the penetration of the OLPC ideas. One group

Re: [IAEP] OLPC San Francisco Community Summit 2012 on USTREAM

2012-10-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Slides and links from the Literacy Project long-talk are now at: http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html --scott On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Live stream at 11:30 am and 1:45 pm Pacific time today!

Re: [IAEP] evolution or revolution? .....android+sugar+doors = oui?

2012-09-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've done a little work on sugar-android pathways, including a (still incomplete) port of gtk3 to android. The primary tasks would be: 1) gtk/python container to run gtk3/py-gobject activities unmodified in Android; 2) reimplementation of Journal as Android service (using intents); 3)

Re: [IAEP] evolution or revolution? .....android+sugar+doors = oui?

2012-09-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Adam Holt h...@laptop.org wrote: Can you think about explaining this in person in San Francisco anytime Oct 19-24 during our 2 OLPC/Sugar events there? http://olpcSF.org/summit EARLY DRAFT SCHEDULE POSTED (Oct 19-21)

Re: [IAEP] IEEE Global Humanitarian Technical Conference October 21-24

2012-08-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Call for papers for this year is closed (of course). It would be interesting to submit a paper for next year's conference. I'd be interested in attending, but it has the same conflict-with-impending-childbirth issue for me as OLPC-SF does. --scott On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Christoph

[IAEP] XO Sticks and XOrduino

2012-08-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have about 20 XO Sticks and XOrduinos to give away to developers. Details at: http://cananian.livejournal.com/66654.html --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [fonc] Barbarians at the gate! (Project Nell)

2012-03-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The many papers from this work greatly influenced the thinking about personal computing at Xerox PARC in the 70s. Here are a couple: -- O. K. Moore, Autotelic Responsive Environments and Exceptional Children, Experience,

Re: [IAEP] [fonc] Barbarians at the gate! (Project Nell)

2012-03-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.comwrote: If you're going to base it on Javascript, at least make it Coffeescript-like. I also agree that some basic parallelism primitives would be great; it is probably possible to build these into a Coffeescript-like

[IAEP] Barbarians at the gate! (Project Nell)

2012-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I read the following today: A healthy [project] is, confusingly, one at odds with itself. There is a healthy part which is attempting to normalize and to create predictability, and there needs to be another part that is tasked with building something new that is going to disrupt and eventually

Re: [IAEP] Is there a new geek anti-intellectualism?

2011-06-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: thanks to Twitter I stumbled across a very interesting blog post called Is there a new geek anti-intellectualism? (http://larrysanger.org/2011/06/is-there-a-new-geek-anti-intellectualism/). Particularly

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out

2011-06-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:11 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Don Hopkins worked on a PostScript-based window system (HyperLook) that would let you flip over an object on the screen to see behind it a control panel with the guts of its implementation visible.  You could modify those, then

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its own operating system and environment. It is very tricky to retain/maintain

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm familiar with the processors designed for specific high-level languages. There was another generation of them built for Java (microblaze, picoblaze, etc) and some of those are even still commercially significant (they run Java subsets on smart cards). I'm not terribly interested in those

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: This is nice! Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its own operating system and environment. It is very tricky to

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: separation.  This is why they never learn to modify the real programs that hide behind the fluffy interfaces on their real XO computers. I hope to show you a system where the real program *is* the fluffy interface (and vice

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: http://fsfe.org/projects/gplv3/europe-gplv3-conference.en.html http://fsfe.org/projects/gplv3/barcelona-rms-transcript.en.html see question 6b from this QA from the 3rd International GPLv3 Conference (Barcelona, June 22-23,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: By updating to the GPLv3, we make a clear political statement that commercial usage is ok, but our software must always remain free for users to use, study, share *and* modify. 1) I'm not interested in using Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:  -  What's the upside?  - At what point do we say hey, this has scant upside, and negative controversy around it, let's spend our time in productive things instead? This is the crux of my objection as well. I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:45 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:  We're not retroactively re-licensing existing code. Really? By moving to GPLv3 your removing the ability to use GPLv2 which is by definition a re-license

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on tablets

2011-04-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.com wrote: Not that I'm aware of, but C. Scott Ananian might have some guidance on the matter once he is through his The next four weeks plan – he must be just hitting week three if still on track:        http

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Q: Do we need to ask the permission of all copyright holders? A: No, we'll take advantage of the or any later version clause in the current license. We're not retroactively re-licensing existing code. This isn't

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Isn't this exactly what I wrote? No, you wrote: Q: How is the actual license change done? A: We need to replace the COPYING file in the source code and update the headers of all source files. This operation can easily

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: Moving Sugar to GPLv3+

2011-04-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@sugarlabs.org wrote: (Ironically, moving to GPLv3 is taking freedoms *away* from users of Sugar). Which freedoms are being taken away from the users of Sugar? You are taking away the right to distribute Sugar under the GPLv2. --scott

Re: [IAEP] Really Dumb Question

2011-04-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: On 04/17/2011 01:29 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: exactly what language should I check out? What is being used to develop Sugar? Sugar and its Activities are mostly written in Python.  They run in the standard

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets

2011-04-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima yosh...@vpri.org wrote:  Yup.  A lesson we learned is that locking ourselves into one particular processor or OS is not a good idea, and trying to predict the particularity of future platforms is not going to work.  Make things truly portable

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets

2011-04-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: Almost. NaCl is not quite there with regard to writing really-really fast code and having it run safely everywhere -- for example, doing your own graphics, doing a really fast particle system, etc. We are hoping they will do

Re: [IAEP] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets

2011-04-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:15 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html Briefly: April 4-8: Android Report on first week's work now at: http://cananian.livejournal.com/62756.html

Re: [IAEP] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets

2011-04-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: PCs and Linux machines yes. But... there still lots of issues with Macs and so far it does not work with the older G4 Power PC Macs (EToys

[IAEP] Exploring Sugar-on-Tablets

2011-04-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html Briefly: April 4-8: Android April 11-15: Chrome/ChromeOS/NativeClient April 18-22: Get down dirty with mesh April 25-29: Pulling legacy Sugar codebase into the GTK3/g-o-i/touch-interface

Re: [IAEP] Tratando bien a los turistas - Being nice to tourists

2011-03-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
That is, indeed, a fascinating shower! --scott ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Feedback needed: pippy use cases?

2011-02-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
These might make a great free textbook, if someone wants to write up the pedagogy. I learned to program from typing the examples in from the paper manual. --Scott On Wednesday, February 23, 2011, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/cscott/pippy-examples

Re: [IAEP] Feedback needed: pippy use cases?

2011-02-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/cscott/pippy-examples/tree/ has a set of pippy examples in both English and Spanish, based on the example code in the Commodore 64 user's manual (which taught me how to program, once upon a time). I've used this to teach programming with pippy in Peru. It's best

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote: On 16 Feb 2011, at 20:35, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Christian Bryant christianabry...@linux.com christianabry...@linux.com wrote: I'm curious

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: This seems to me to be a red herring. What does connectivity have to do with your choice of OS? While technically possible to write

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Nicholas Doiron ndoi...@andrew.cmu.eduwrote: This is a tremendously interesting but increasingly technical discussion. It's difficult to weigh pros and cons of an entire OS in an e-mail discussion. I'd actually like to avoid the technical parts as much as

[IAEP] Improving Multi-touch on Sugar

2011-02-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
(Changed subject line to separate technical discussion from other discussion on original thread.) On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gary Martin garycmar...@googlemail.comwrote: On 17 Feb 2011, at 14:46, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Gary Martin

[IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Hi folks. I wish to make a radical proposal: Sugar's days on OLPC hardware are numbered. Sugar as presently written is not developing quickly enough, and hasn't made significant progress towards supporting the new touchscreen devices coming down the pike. This isn't a problem: it's an

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Sugar is starting to move forward again. We could focus or we could Get Distracted! Well, you can pretend that the current course is not heading into a brick wall, or you can choose one or two new ideas and make

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Christian Bryant christianabry...@linux.com wrote: I'm curious, is there a comprehensive requirements and/or design document for Sugar against which the recommendation is measured? I'd be curious to see a gap analysis that supports the argument to not use

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks for the proposal, lots of combustible material here. :) I was hoping ask interesting questions, as Martin says. I wouldn't be very excited about just porting Sugar activities to a stock Android base. I think our

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Martin Sevior msev...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that the minimum requirement for this idea to have the remotest chance of reusing all the work that has gone into sugar so far is for Gtk to have android graphics backend. Gtk-3.0 can apparently now draw

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: I look back at when OLPC started, and some things have changed in the world _we_ live in. But the kids we want to help with... their world hasn't changed much. They still haven't got internet for starters.

Re: [IAEP] For Sugar Everywhere, Google-ize!

2011-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, Stepping back for a moment, the key question is: how can we get Sugar out of the window manager and network manager and activity update and UI toolkit business, where it's just not keeping up (and wasting our

Re: [IAEP] 90% fluency Re: Granny Cloud

2010-11-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com wrote: If there is something I find irresistible is spoof of scientific papers, I am a big fan of the Journal Of Ireproducible Results (though find the [...] Alas, I have been unable to find an actual copy of the original

Re: [IAEP] Mesh Dreams = OLSR

2010-09-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm not 100% certain we've pulled in members of the OLSR mailing lists on this thread yet. But they've actually got a number of very impressive *real world* demonstrations of OLSRd in the wild. You'll have to search the devel@ archives for 'olsr' to find the emails I sent years ago with all the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs potentially a trade mark infringer

2010-07-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Kevin Cole kjc...@dc.sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 01:09, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Compare Breakout[1] with Break Out[2] Yes. So we need to

Re: [IAEP] Humane Reader is a $20 8-bit PC for TVs

2010-07-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Its amazing how cheap you can make a laptop if you leave out the RAM, battery, display, keyboard, networking, processor, and plastic case. It is a much less developed version of AMD's 50x15 terminal. That said, I do not

Re: [IAEP] Redesigning: Library, Read, Get-Books, and Content bundles

2010-07-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Reuben K. Caron reu...@laptop.org wrote: deployments that would like to install content bundles. They package these files into .xol packages and these packages get installed into the Library, which is contained on the left hand side of the Browse activity. Yes,

Re: [IAEP] Humane Reader is a $20 8-bit PC for TVs

2010-07-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. je...@merlintec.com wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote on Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:25:55 -0400 I suspect the inventors added up some prices and reduced by some arbitrary factor to include volume.  My guesstimate says $20 for the electronics BOM alone

Re: [IAEP] Contents of Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:14 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote:    * Encourage new people to join our project I am an educator. [...] I have come to the conclusion it is perception of olpc and Sugar being for technical people. The reason I am now seeing a shift and getting more

Re: [IAEP] Google demos Scratch-based Android development tool for students

2010-07-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com wrote: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/fgfvtXF_2a8/google-demos-codeless-android-development-tool-for-students.ars Google has announced a new browser-based visual development tool called App Inventor that allows

Re: [IAEP] Google demos Scratch-based Android development tool for students

2010-07-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero raf...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I don't know if it's a crazy idea but i guess TA can be used also to construct activities, Defining specific general blocks for general sugar specifics, like graphics toolkit and prescence. The key

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 12-07-2010 a las 22:13 -0400, C. Scott Ananian escribió: Bernie, thanks for responding. I hope you understand that my message wasn't meant as a flame on SugarLabs or y'all's work, just as constructive criticism

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: I think an honest assessment would indicate that OLPC has done some initial work on supporting touchscreen devices, but that SugarLabs has

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: I think it's highly inappropriate to say that eating your own dogfood means that software developers, or even teachers, should use Sugar. Sugar is an I (personally) view this as an important part of Sugar's

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Again, just to defuse any hostility here, I want to say how cool it is to see the SugarLabs' goal statement for 2010, and Bernie's mid-year evaluation of the goals. I think it's a great way to keep us all focused. By commenting on his evaluation I'm not suggesting that SugarLabs is in some way

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

2010-07-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:  * Explore Sugar in the context of mobile devices and web-based services I'm not aware of any work in this direction. I can understand the need to integrate with web-based services (aka online communities). If

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Cole kjc...@dc.sugarlabs.org wrote: I doubt I'm the first to ask... Any thoughts about accessibility and touch screens?  Voice recognition?  External keyboard / mouse (perhaps wireless)? Or just offer alternative inexpensive computers, SoaS, etc.,

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I strongly encourage the Sugar team to consider rethinking the Sugar UI from the ground up for touch. The simple port is likely to yield a very unsatisfactory experience; fat fingers are just not precise pointing devices, and a lot of gestures which seem intuitive for a mouse don't really work

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:49 PM,  fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: the interviewed social Darwinist is Robert Wright, the author of  Nonzero http://www.nonzero.org/ The filmmaker is Righteous Pictures

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: http://vimeo.com/8709616 Fantastic. Like I always dreamed of the XO-1+wikipedia being used -- kids who read through the encyclopedia to find out about their world, like I did as a kid. --scott ps. the older man says he's

Re: [IAEP] Local software installation

2010-04-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 14:48 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: For a future release cycle, we may want to re-evaluate yum-updatesd as an alternative to olpc-updates which provides different trade-offs in terms of

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] Sugar Browser

2010-03-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
FWIW, at litl we are switching from a xulrunner-based brower to a chromium-based browser. We are seeing a big performance improvement, plus it's making it easier for us to implement plugin isolation and better memory management (unloading pages which are not foregrounded, etc). YMMV, and it's

Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?

2010-02-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've always thought that we should involve the camera activity, to make it easier for kids to turn their stories into films. Write the script, film you and your friends performing it, and then edit it down and share it. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ )

Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-Haiti] Need in Haiti: inexpensive portable projectors forOLPC/XO classrooms

2010-02-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:51 PM, John Rigdon jrig...@researchonline.net wrote: I have not seen the XO, but I think we should be rather thinking about these new cheap netbooks for these other tasks and use the XO for what it is designed.  I am now evaluating a netbook I bought on Ebay for $79 and

Re: [IAEP] Scenarios for licensing our trademarks

2010-01-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: A budding brand like ours needs protection to grow, but also needs exposure to grow. Approving trademark licensing applications on the basis of a functioning e-mail address will not assure our brand's protection - we need to

Re: [IAEP] Long-term support for Sugar

2009-09-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Yes, a PackageKit backend that handles .xo files could be written. I believe I've suggested this before. --Scott On Tuesday, September 22, 2009, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 00:54,

Re: [IAEP] future of the Sugar user experience

2009-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Seems reasonable: Design review in addition to code review for new patches. Like code review, make a reasonable effort to have an experienced designer or someone who knows the design for the particular area, but if the patch stalls, any designer or developer's review will do. If you care about

Re: [IAEP] Unified Objects (was Unified bundles)

2009-04-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Quick comment: you should probably be thinking about running activities *in place from their ZIP file* rather than storing the unpacked form in the Journal. This will lead to a much simpler implementation in the short term, since activities still have a single identity. There are a number of

Re: [IAEP] ISBN Numbers Summary.

2009-03-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: I am still looking into that issue. An a related issue there is a question in the publish on demand industry of how to define a 'new edition' which requires a new ISBN. If the content changes, it's a new edition and

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
what the hell? i don't think it's productive to separate olpc and sugarlabs in this fashion. the whole point of this was *joint* discussion/planning! and i also resent the implication that this was closed-door planning. i posted a *proposed* schedule. we're discussing it here *in public*. i

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
-1. sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission. i think it's entirely appropriate to have one day devoted to technical issues, with the participation of olpc employees (who are also sugarlabs members -- even board members). we have monday, tuesday, friday, saturday, and sunday reserved for

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] SugarCamp

2008-11-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Morgan Collett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:39, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sugarlabs and olpc have the same mission. Yes, but you have to substitute the word 'education' for 'laptop' - I can't remember which way round

Re: [IAEP] Schedule for SugarCamp?

2008-11-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday and Friday, we have a second, smaller room besides the large one. We were planning to have the first face-to-face meeting of the Sugar Labs oversight board there. Please reserve the 3pm-5pm Thursday time

[IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
In the interest of trying to make room for the unexpected around the Nov 17 G1G1 launch, I've tried to compress most of the technical talks into a single day, Wed. Nov 19. There will be plenty of flex time during the rest of the week to get to topics not covered, delve in depth, or try to hack

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:07 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1 proposal (or forgot to), and aren't listed above, let me know. I should have also

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:18 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like Bernie start a on-line schedule at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugarcamp Yes, Bernie and I are working together on this. I just thought I'd post a proposal to the list in general to find out if I'm totally

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4pm: Internationalization (Marco, C. Scott, possibly Saymindu by phone and/or cjb on language learning) I'm not giving talks about i18n

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. No. Wednesday talks are well-structured, compressed data, idea, open question and

Re: [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this schedule seem reasonable to others? (Esp. those I've pencilled in for talks?) If you are going to be in town, made a 9.1

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if (a) I understand how Bernie's schedule (Talk:Sugarcamp) works; but (b) Friday morning at 9am is the only time that works for Evangelina, who is able to jooin us for the Portfolio discussion. I don't think we'll

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-10-27

2008-10-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 15. XOCamp: Marco has written three proposals for the November XOCamp. (I am working on one for the Portfolio as well.) There are many more being posted on the Sugar and Devel lists. We're trying to raise money to send

Re: [IAEP] Fedora Live CD for Sugar

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:16 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have: * A livecd for Fedora 10 devel (rawhide) that allows a Sugar 0.82 boot option via GDM. We're missing activites, but as those make

Re: [IAEP] Fedora Live CD for Sugar

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have a strong feeling about where the image itself should be hosted. Maybe on sugarlabs.org for now and the final F10 livecd in

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] 0.84 planning update

2008-09-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a first pass on the planning pages for 0.84: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap/0.84#Goals We are going to have quick, informal meetings in #sugar-meeting at 9am UTC every morning, to keep

Re: [IAEP] Teacher in Uruguay enchanted to see his ideas integrated into global Sugar update [pr mockup]

2008-09-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary idea of a website. It is so much more functional than this wiki thing olpc is so enamoured of. On a website there is a homepage with important links to things like help and