Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] yet another motion regarding Samson's travel

How many votes would it take to change the tagline of IAEP to “It’s An Education Project (not a travel agency!)”? Martin (Not directed at Caryl personally - this whole thread comes off as pretty far from SL’s mission to this observer. It should be internal IMHO.) > On 24 Sep 2017, at 23:39,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

> On 15 Sep 2017, at 14:13, Lionel Laské wrote: > > > +1 for the motion. > > @Martin, thanks to wait for all votes or at least the end of voting delay. Sure Lionel - what is the voting delay? I actually was waiting but the wiki had been updated already (not by me) so

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] Motion regarding xo-computer icon

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:12:28AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Motion: To answer the questions posed by the SFC regarding the xo-computer icon as follows: (Q1) Why is the XO logo included in the sugar-artwork repo now -- and does the SLOBs want to keep it there? (A1) The xo-computer icon has

Re: [IAEP] Save as

Tony, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 16:34, Tony Anderson wrote: > > It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by major > applications everywhere. There are many things that Sugar does differently than major applications everywhere. It was painful to

Re: [IAEP] SOAS Page?

Dave, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 18:43, Dave Crossland wrote: > Who is responsible for the text and illustrations on > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ ? :) I don't know, but there is a link at the bottom of the page: Please send any comments or corrections to the websites

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

> On 12 Apr 2016, at 14:45, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > >> On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> wrote: >> The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it, > > Give me the keys and I'll

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

> On 12 Apr 2016, at 11:36, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi! > >> On 12 April 2016 at 09:17, Sebastian Silva wrote: >> One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that, although we could do >> better, the wiki and the mailing list are among the *things that

Re: [IAEP] More Sugar Numbers.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:28:51AM +0300, Dan Tenason wrote: Some more interesting Sugar and XO numbers. At the site https://www.one-education.org/   OLPC Australia is reporting that 2,370 out of 42,329 phoned home. I can't find those numbers on that website. Do you have a link? At 

Re: [IAEP] Sugar future

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 03:48:00PM -0700, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [...] the individual activities are *not* what makes Sugar such a compelling proposition. Sure, having some of them as apps on other platforms would be nice. But isn't collaborating and sharing at the heart of Sugar? The Journal

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar future

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:25:46AM +0800, Martin Dengler wrote: I bet someone (cscott?) has already investigated [porting Sugar to Android] Answering myself: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/work/download/google/gci2012/7972209?id=17001 Martin Martin pgp3CDC48aVFd.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [IAEP] users doing python in XOs

On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: If it is defunct, can we use binaries finally to optimize and speed up operation Using binaries is not what needs to be done. Rewriting each activity (that you want to speed up) is what you're saying needs to be done. That's a

Re: [IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs

On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:57:39AM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: On 12/02/2012 08:13 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: If it is defunct, can we use binaries finally to optimize and speed up operation Using binaries is not what needs

[IAEP] Teaching kids to program - how to train your robot

Nice hack for holding kids' attention while teaching them programming: use the parents as the computer. http://drtechniko.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/how-to-train-your-robot/ I wonder if there is any direct tie-in to Sugar activities? Martin pgpITAl4k4tPy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [IAEP] Gmail other Google TOS

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:56:03PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a link to the TOS argeement you mention? Maybe worth

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Article on Why files need to die

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:54:40AM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Please also see this article ( http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2011/06/08/new-pony/) which Tomeu Vizoso (one of the early Sugar developers) just shared on Google+, well worth a read! The article offers no solution that avoids

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS]: Request for certifications of developing an activity

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 06:11:31PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 12 2011, Walter Bender wrote: Can we discuss this? I think it would be good to have a certificate program of some sort. I image that if we get sign-off by 2+ experienced developers, we should be willing to award

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS]: Request for certifications of developing an activity

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 04:07:49PM +0200, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: With education students I feel it's hard to get them involved because they're simply not used to tools such as mailing-lists, wikis, and IRC How do you think we could reach education students? Is it worth doing? Last but

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2010 Goals Review

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 01:17:12PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Are developers using Sugar as their day-to-day development environment yet? I do while I'm using my XO-1.5. I even integrated my MUA

Re: [IAEP] [Design] Multiple instances of same activity (Was: First steps with Sugar)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:15:10AM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Has anyone seen good real world cases where allowing multiple instances of the same activity to be run was useful or a vaguely common practice? browser is a good example of what does /not/ work well in this sense

Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Heads-up: POSSE folks hacking in Fedora/Sugar thisweek and next

[In light of sense and recent conversations, please can we not cross-post to five mailing lists in the future unless there is clear information that all lists can benefit from] On Wed, Jun 09, 2010 at 03:37:19PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Peter Robinson

Re: [IAEP] Devel Team vacancies

On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 10:30:45PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [sugar 0.90 release manage{er,ment} discussion] Could you or someone of similar standing merge this thread with http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-June/024425.html ? They seem to be on almost the same subject.

Re: [IAEP] Books and educational achievement

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:26:37PM -0400, Chris Leonard wrote: This study seems to make a powerful argument in favor of ramping up the quantity of e-book content on school servers. Books in the home as important as parents’ education level

Re: [IAEP] (fwd) Open Source Schools Think Tank [March, in the UK]

olpc-uk list: anybody already going to this event? I'm in London so could go if anyone thought it'd be useful. Martin On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:17:06PM +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: Hi! There are a lot of projects listed we cooperate with (GCompris, Scratch, Ooo4Kids, ...), but I can't see

Re: [IAEP] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise!

Hi Caryl, On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 02:59:06PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: * Another really big question: Is SoaS ready for big time? What do you mean? I'd recommend it but I don't know enough about what you want. Thanks Folks! Caryl Martin pgpcPdSOjUMft.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [IAEP] A proposal from Trisquel (Was Re: [SoaS] [DP] Announcing the creation of a SoaS Decision Panel)

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 07:22:46PM +, Sebastian Silva wrote: Yes actually, sorry for the lack of detail, was doing it from memory. I'll transcribe my result: Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth Arguments: Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\vmlinuz Arguments: ro boot=casper rootdelay=1

Re: [IAEP] Calculate and SocialCalc Lesson ideas?

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 09:11:35PM -0400, Gerald Ardito wrote: I can recommend [an example lesson plan's] flow: [...] Hope this helps. Thanks - I added your suggestions to the template: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lesson_plan_template/Wiki_Version#Instructional_Procedures Gerald Martin

Re: [IAEP] A proposal from Trisquel (Was Re: [SoaS] [DP] Announcing the creation of a SoaS Decision Panel)

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 08:06:29PM -0500, Sebastian Silva wrote: I'm trying to boot into TOAST from an SD card. I created it using usb-creator included in Trisquel GNU. As per instructions from Ruben I created a /boot/olpc.fth and copied respective files into initrd.img and vmlinuz. The

[IAEP] Lesson Plans for Sugar (was: Re: [support-gang] The last XO)

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 02:41:10PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 05:56:16PM +1300, Tabitha Roder wrote: Teachers would find it helpful if volunteers would write lessons plans that show the links between the curriculum and the activities on the XO has anyone done any

Re: [IAEP] [activit...@sugarlabs.org: Sugar Labs Activities: Doom-1 Nomination]

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 05:56:34PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all, Got the followed notification from ASLO, so the question I have in mind - should ASLO editor be guided only technical questions during pushing activities to the public(in all previous cases it was so). Non-technical

Re: [IAEP] Sugar .84 on the XO

Hi Gerald, On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 08:59:20AM -0400, Gerald Ardito wrote: I could use some help. I am trying to install Sugar 84 on my XOs, and have followed the copy-nand instructions on the olpc wiki. But then, when I reboot the machine, I get an error message saying the machine will power

Re: [IAEP] A proposal from Trisquel (Was Re: [SoaS] [DP] Announcing the creation of a SoaS Decision Panel)

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:50:31AM +0200, Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote: El jue, 01-10-2009 a las 22:04 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:47:57PM +0200, Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote: You can find more info here: http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-sugar Thanks

Re: [IAEP] A proposal from Trisquel (Was Re: [SoaS] [DP] Announcing the creation of a SoaS Decision Panel)

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 09:36:20AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:50:31AM +0200, Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote: El jue, 01-10-2009 a las 22:04 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: One like SoaS uses[1] might be good to include, but - I'm sorry for the lack of searching

Re: [IAEP] A proposal from Trisquel (Was Re: [SoaS] [DP] Announcing the creation of a SoaS Decision Panel)

On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:47:57PM +0200, Rubén Rodríguez Pérez wrote: You can find more info here: http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-sugar Thanks for the info. Two questions: 1) May I ask why you are creating a Sugar spin? 2) How can we send patches? IIUC the latest Trisquel Sugar .ISO won't

Re: [IAEP] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion

Are you guys talking about Sugar or SoaS? Martin pgpgqU1UUy6N6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Which Language?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:08:56AM -0400, gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada (705) 250-0112) wrote: Jim Simmons, in part: The original question was about developing Activities for a classroom assignment, with the idea that these Activities could be widely distributed. If (big IF) J

Re: [IAEP] Which Language?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:36:03AM -0400, gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada (705) 250-0112) wrote: Martin Dengler: Since you don't know if J can run on the XO, J is not a good thing to recommend for developing activities on the XO, right? Wrong. J is worth investigating

Re: [IAEP] decision panel: waste of time

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:05:36AM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: I've looked at some initial discussion on the decision panel (I don't even have time to read all of it) and I think it's time to go back to the start. Why are you prolonging this even more? SLOBs decided that a Decision Panel was

Re: [IAEP] SOas waste of time

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 01:38:09PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: [an opinion] +1 Please in the name of all that furthers education, stop voting on things that don't require voting :). http://kernelslacker.livejournal.com/125203.html If you're just saying me too, I thought that died out:

Re: [IAEP] Which Language?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 02:57:48PM -0400, gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada (705) 250-0112) wrote: Martin wrote: The question was what language can be used now. You're answering a different question. Possibly. Depends on whether J can be used now (or soon). Only if

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:33:45AM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: 4. We will entrust the marketing team with labeling products in a way that is amenable to all parties, including the users and creators of Sugar-based systems. The Marketing team is, and has been, responsible for ensuring

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 08:06:43AM -0500, David Farning wrote: This sets several important [precedents]: Delegate authority - In this case the soas project can define its own future. And the marketing team can define its own marketing strategy. This is not the precedent. Authority has not

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:07:05PM -0400, metamel wrote: All I see is a lot of unproductive reinforcement of 4. let's talk a lot about tangential stuff to the detriment of letting SLOBs get on with answering the original question[1,2]. Patches welcome. You're replying to one. It seems

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 01:03:37AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: Ok - then the situation is this, then: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ASugar_on_a_Stickdiff=37874oldid=37820 It looks like the SoaS team is unblocked I don't see how the SoaS team was ever blocked on the things that

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 07:35:25AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: This is a convincing demonstration of the utter failure in decision-making. This is overly harsh, sorry. Martin pgpJ7r1g1U67L.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] Walter's essay up on Groklaw yesterday, our press release carried by LWN + Register article

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:59:13PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090918110925298 http://lwn.net/Articles/353419/ http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/18/windows_seven_sins_ngos/ Also note that from yesterday morning on, the top Google News result

Re: [IAEP] XO Special interest group at Sugar Labs

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 02:49:41PM -0500, David Farning wrote: In some of the other threads we have been seeing an interest in the Sugar Labs Community improving the Sugar experience on the XO. As such, I would like to create a XO SIG within Sugar Labs. I have filed an initial draft

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi,   If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use   native packages for each distro.  Some are already being   packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms   and debs with the same

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Chris Ball wrote: Hi, TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and others (and I'm

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:02:55PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi,   If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use   native packages for each distro.  Some are already being   packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms   and debs with the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:54:09PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Chris Ball wrote: Hi,     TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:01:13PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:47 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Activities. Eliminating this sharing

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Long-term support for Sugar

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:06:44PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:53 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió: Well I meant precisely what I said (sorry to be pedantic). If one replaces rpms with XO bundles, it's what we have now, and what I think's being proposed

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:21:34AM -0400, Art Hunkins wrote: From: Mel Chua m...@melchua.com [make SoaS friendly/consistent/sustainable] This is exactly the kind of feedback SoaS and deployment teams need. Kudos! I'm not sure why you see it as relevant. You're only right insofar as SoaS

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] SLOBs Position on SoaS

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:39:08PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: This note is only tangentially a response to Peter Robinson's... Here's my thought process... [meta: it's hard to know to what email are you replying or to what topic you're speaking] I ... don't think we can leave Sugar LiveUSB

Re: [IAEP] SoaS: Searching for Decision Panel volunteers.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 04:27:03PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: This mail is to ask for volunteers for the Decision Panel. [...] Please volunteer by replying to this mail if you're interested I volunteer. Thanks! - Chris. Martin pgpdfCxqIfbZp.pgp Description: PGP signature

[IAEP] What is Sugar LiveUSB (was: Re: [Sugar-devel] SLOBs Position on SoaS)

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:54:30PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: There seems to be a lack of consensus of what SoaS actually is or what it's goals (use cases) should be. I'd like to say I see your point, but across the internet that's a dangerous thing to say in the face of the somewhat amusing

Re: [IAEP] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 05:32:55PM +0200, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: == What is SoaS? == [...] SoaS aims to make it easy for local deployers to provide each student with a thumbdrive (stick) [...] Notably, this does not say SoaS is Sugar Labs' way of providing [anyone] with a [image to put on

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:17:42AM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: [non-release-naming issue] Please take this to the mailing list to which it belongs: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org. Bill Bogstad Martin pgphosDgskPkK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [IAEP] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 05:12:46PM -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Sebastian Dziallas wrote: So my vision is that this SoaS is actually *the* way of distributing Sugar, as a SL product. If Sugar Labs doesn't think so, I'd have preferred to be informed much earlier. I don't think you're

Re: [IAEP] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:05:08PM +0200, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: So my vision is that this SoaS is actually *the* way of distributing Sugar, as a SL product. If Sugar Labs doesn't think so, I'd have preferred to be informed much earlier. But wait, who's SL here? Is it me? Is it SLOBs?

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:18:55PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Bill - I completely agree our numbering systems are byzantine and difficult to grasp... there is the Sugar version number, the Fedora version number, the OLPC-OS version number and the XO build number. The numbering is for

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 08:20:43PM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote: I've been watching this thread since it began and understand that from a marketing perspective numbers are 'ugly'. Numbers are for the developers, ice cream flavours are for the press / GUI users, as I understand it. On the other

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:30:30PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: re marketing course: in fact I have accepted Mel's invitation to do a classroom for Fedora. Congratulations. re logos: Strawberry=6, Blueberry=4, and 5 we'll use some other time Very clear - thanks. [Have we agreed on Blueberry as

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no

[IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

Hi, This is to solicit feedback on the naming and colouring of the Sugar on a Stick v2 release scheduled for 2009-11-24[1]: 1) Release name: Blueberry 2) Release logo colours: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png Please reply all with any feedback. If you want to get involved

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 10:10:40PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Hi Martin The idea is ice cream flavors Ok. I hadn't picked up on this, despite being in the meeting when it was mentioned[1]. I suspect others may not have, either. and Blueberry works since I had rollup banners and posters made

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 04:04:33PM -0400, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: Thank you, I love this naming concept with fruit names. I guess Sean's corrected you and I that it's ice-cream flavours :). yet a couple snags I see, No blueberries (arandanos) I ever saw in South/Cental America... (very

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 04:42:07PM -0400, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote: I guess Sean's corrected you and I that it's ice-cream flavours :). If it's ice cream flavors, Vanilla and Chocolate are universal... I guess I was assuming that there needs to be a tie-in between the colour of the flavour and

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 10:57:00PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: In fact Martin if I remember correctly we had already discussed this on-list... I will try to find the thread. Please let me know. I did google for 'sugar ice cream soas' before I said I couldn't find anything besides the IRC meeting I

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming

On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 11:56:25PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 10:57:00PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: In fact Martin if I remember correctly we had already discussed this on-list... I will try

Re: [IAEP] logging of #sugar channel

On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:05:58PM -0700, Dennis Daniels wrote: I'd like to bring up the discussion of logging the Sugar IRC channel. -1 from me, as before. A Google search for #sugar irc logs would turn up a long discussion of this issue. If a google-able discussion of an exact issue doesn't

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:18:13AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Tomeu Do you have any actionable ideas about how to work better for our users? I perceive a double bind: I have lots of ideas, but ideas are cheap and seem most unwelcome here -- they're just talk instead of do, aren't they?

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:42:57AM -0500, David Farning wrote: [Michael and Tomeu talk] An effective way to become a respected member of on open source community is to start with small ideas and implement them. If the deliverable works, is useful, and meets coding standards it will be

Re: [IAEP] SoaS as a Sugar Labs project.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 01:50:25PM -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: Fedora aims for a lightweight [compromise to foster intiatives]: * Special Interest Group + Can be created by anyone + One leader (i.e. the person who requests the mailing list) + No governance expected or required

Re: [IAEP] SOAS and Terminal

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:51:23AM -0400, Kim Toufectis wrote: Terminal told me it did not recognize wget so I'm stuck. Any advice? Try sudo yum -y install wget without the quotes. Martin pgp92ZMynue7w.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP --

Re: [IAEP] SoaS with SD cards irregularities

On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:11:31PM +0930, Bill Kerr wrote: The sticks I have with SD cards have started to fail on the older computers at school (after working ok for 2 weeks of lessons). But they still work fine on my newer Dell mini inspiron. This is a very consistent pattern. I have 8

Re: [IAEP] USB Sticks - Was: Re: Presenting Sugar to Rosie's Girls Camp, recommendations for cheap, fast flash drives

Hi Caroline, On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 11:36:38AM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: Nicco's example has a good example use case from the field that relate to our work on trying to create a more robust Sugar on a Stick. I think a session on how to not remove the USB stick unless Sugar is shut down,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] community influence on development

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:17:56PM -0300, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 28.07.2009, at 07:22, Martin Dengler wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:24:13PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: However, I feel like it could be better if the community (who I might even stretch to call customers) could

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Still Problems Saving in Scratch. Who Can Solve This Mystery?

On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:55:39PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: OK, I tried the code in the Terminal Activity again a few times, being sure I was typing it in correctly and now I get this result: [...] Then it returns a prompt. All very colorful, but I haven't a clue what it all means.

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and Mastering Educational SW

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 11:08:18AM -0500, David Farning wrote: [thread about how to get kids interested in science] While this is an interesting topic. It is getting pretty far from the goals of Sugar Labs, to create and promote a learning platform. I think it speaks to the components such a

Re: [IAEP] Reflections on giving a Sugar Demo

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 08:19:11PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: First off it went well. The teacher's loved Sugar, saw a lot of possibilities and are motivated to help us go forward. People talked with me about it the entire conference. That said, I learned a lot of lessons and there are

Re: [IAEP] HUMOR: SoasS-strawberry torrent

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: At the launch this month of the Archos Digital Satchel in Paris (Archos plans to be a Europewide partner for the Intel Classmate), the head of the proprietary learning software package bundled with the Archos chose sugar as an example

Re: [IAEP] picked up by Gizmodo off of TechRadar: Sugar On a Stick Turns Any Netbook Into Your Very Own OLPC

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:36:02AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Hi Sascha, in fact I have no idea where that one came from. Before I read this sub thread I commented that he should use something like http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallerypage=media_04 , but in fact that wasn't terribly

Re: [IAEP] the SoaS term (was: Press release flurry planning...)

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:28:09PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote: [Sugar on a Stick] should [...] describe the medium by which sugar is delivered (a usb stick) Nowhere is there any mention of something distro specific, nor should there be. I'm amused that a few meme-weeks ago we had a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:50:00AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Martin - we worked out Flavors at the marketing meetings Ok. It'd be nice if there was a mail sometime stating that. I guess your one a few minutes ago was that mail. Sean Martin pgpTVckh5koL8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Marketing] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:17:09AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm having difficulty with this launch (which was originally planned for three months from now :-) We're making it, but it's a pressure situation... It'd be nice was meant without its usual sarcastic implication, sorry. I did mean I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:40:31AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 17.06.2009, at 10:28, S Page wrote: Nooo, I want to keep my working 8.2.1 in NAND. Can I simply boot my XO from the USB or SD card? No, these images are meant for NAND install. For USB/SD we'd need yet another

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:24:51PM +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: It seems build engineers go to a a lot of effort to create multiple ginormous downloads in .img/.usb/.iso/.bootable.gz formats when they're 99%

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to end users? [...] I suggest transforming it into this instead: Beware of the target

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 01:38:32PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On 17.06.2009, at 12:56, Martin Dengler wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:41:05PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes

Re: [IAEP] The Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 06:34:02AM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Tell Grannie about it too! I will muddle my way through it this week and write a short Grannie's Guide To Running SoaS on your XO. I guess I will have to include a guide to getting a developer key for your XO. I (and it sounds

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:51:24AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: ultimately, the question is: are there (or not) Activities common to every, or nearly every instance of Sugar? This is Fructose: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Taxonomy#Fructose:_The_set_of_demonstration_activities If you keep asking

Re: [IAEP] LWN article

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:17:36AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: [Re: ttp://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/336910/3878a88c0c27f977/ ] [...] A very key point to me is the essential critical thinking issue. In ten years or so there will be thousands of young adults who started out with Sugar who will be

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:55:51AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I guess I'm confused because for me, a set of demo Activities is not at all the same thing as baseline Activities included in every Sugar deployment. I agree they're not exactly the same, but I think that's probably because baseline

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 02:47:45PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 03:10:49PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I actually don't think it's that hard to set a list[...] 27 messages in this thread: http://n2.nabble.com/G1G1v2-Activities-td1096680.html 20 comments on this ticket

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 05:34:29PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I think that's a great idea - will be very helpful in identifying the classics. It'd be great if the classifications found happened to, or could be easily made to, be sensibly related to the classifications used for quite some time now:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:48:43AM -0500, James Simmons wrote: Martin, First and foremost ASLO has to make sense to grade school kids and their teachers. Sure - I'm agreeing That's why I didn't care for GCompris as a category. I didn't see that as an issue. Now since we can give an

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 04:47:07PM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: I'm not saying the existing Taxonomy is the sexiest or most-comprehensible-to-the-outsider, but it's well-aligned with the development/deployment processes and if we promote a completely orthogonal categorization it may cause

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] ASLO Suggestion

I think we're in violent agreement: different taxonomies are great in that they can serve different needs [and we don't want to confuse anyone if we can help it]. pgpF0WVPFERkY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

Re: [IAEP] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 07:07:17PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Ring of Dots http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#XO_Sugar_Boot_With_Overlap +1 pgpZ8WrTgcUiy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a

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