Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-16 Thread Valerie Taylor
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: Please put that up on the Replacing Textbooks server. Remixing is one of the points of the program. Will do. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Kenneth Wyrick
i see an apple guy trying to down FLOSS in it's truest form. the olpc is a key human access to experiencing ingenuity at it's finest...it starts with self where apple starts with i and thinks it;s a pod business to make money with good products that they are now making more affordable accessible

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Kenneth Wyrick k...@caltek.net wrote: i see an apple guy trying to down FLOSS in it's truest form. the olpc is a key human access to experiencing ingenuity at it's finest...it starts with self Don't shoot the messenger. Carlos is a prolific contributor to our

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Valerie Taylor
The concerns are much more technical that I was imagining. I'm really out there on the fringe. I took the liberty of going through the Sugar manual and leaving out anything that was too technical for a general overview. There is still a lot of useful and interesting information about Sugar,

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Kenneth Wyrick
Oh! Ok I get that, now. Also, view my comments as a gut level response as a newbie to this project who is looking for specific constructive dialog instead of generalities that are easily thrown around. Maybe it's just me but I replied how I felt as I read what was written. So, I still want to

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Kenneth Wyrick k...@caltek.net wrote: Oh! Ok I get that, now. Also, view my comments as a gut level response as a newbie to this project who is looking for specific constructive dialog instead of generalities that are easily thrown around. Maybe it's just me

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Kenneth Wyrick
Chris, Since this seems to be something you have sincere passion about, would you be willing to simply list/summarize specific points that you see that Carlos made so we can talk about them point by point to hopefully arrive at a more succinct overall intention of his communication? On Wed, Jun

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, On Wed, Jun 15 2011, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Maybe it's just me but I replied how I felt as I read what was written. So, I still want to know what his purpose is for spending time with the olpc? Based on what I read, he sees the apple as our competitor. I could have done without the apple

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 15.06.2011, at 14:03, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jun 15 2011, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Maybe it's just me but I replied how I felt as I read what was written. So, I still want to know what his purpose is for spending time with the olpc? Based on what I read, he sees the apple as our

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Kenneth Wyrick k...@caltek.net wrote: Chris, Since this seems to be something you have sincere passion about, would you be willing to simply list/summarize specific points that you see that Carlos made so we can talk about them point by point to hopefully

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread Steve Thomas
1. I believe Carlos raises valid points 2. We need specifics so we can prioritize and address them, So: 1. Let's stop talking in generalities and about volunteer vs corporate, we are what we are, so let's make the best of it 2. We should work with Carlos (who I find

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-15 Thread mokurai
On Wed, June 15, 2011 7:45 pm, Steve Thomas wrote: 1. I believe Carlos raises valid points Definitely. 2. We need specifics so we can prioritize and address them, I asked Carlos to check over our existing documentation and tell us, and in particular me, what is lacking. I await his