Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-26 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion we should use a customized trac for project management, i > don't like to have too many resources to take into > count, we already have the necessary ones (Trac, mediawiki..moodle) > +1 Same

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-26 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
In my opinion we should use a customized trac for project management, i don't like to have too many resources to take into count, we already have the necessary ones (Trac, mediawiki..moodle) The Gantt plugin it's a good solution there. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Sameer Verm

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-26 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sameer Verma wrote: >> dotProject (http://www.dotproject.net/) and Project.net >> (http://www.project.net/) are good candidates. They are both FOSS, >> although I haven't had much luck locating Project.net's FOSS licens

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-26 Thread David Van Assche
There is also alfresco, which seems quite suited to larger projects: www.alfresco.com and is GPL. Kind Regards, David Van Assche On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sameer Verma wrote: >> dotProject (http://www.dotproject.net/) and Project.net >> (http:/

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-26 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Sameer Verma wrote: > dotProject (http://www.dotproject.net/) and Project.net > (http://www.project.net/) are good candidates. They are both FOSS, > although I haven't had much luck locating Project.net's FOSS license. > Their Bus. Dev. guy tells me that the next release will be GPLv3. dotProject

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-25 Thread David Farning
I think that we are going to find that by the fall 2009 we will see a release team spontaneously form and take a lead role in the project. For the first release, Fall 2008, our effort was centered around the organization of Sugar Labs. For the second release, Spring 2009, organizational we are fo

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-25 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Caroline Meeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> In our case, it's harder, but might still make sense. If we go >> this route, let's make sure we support projects involving multiple >> teams. For example, "Sugar on a Stick" would touch Development, >> Infrastr

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-25 Thread Ralph Hyre
I have to express the contrary view here, based on 15 years of consulting experience. If the teams are involved in delivery, there needs to be roles involved in keeping things on track, especially in a meritocracy like an open source effort. Infrastructure is needed, but there need to be about 3 '

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Caroline Meeks wrote: > I am going to be setting up LiquidPlanner, a free for nonprofits, Web > 2.0 Microsoft Project like program. > > I've used it some for projects. Its pretty heavy weight for agile open > source development. I want to use it for planning for Gardner's Sugar on > a Stick deploy

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Caroline Meeks
> > > In our case, it's harder, but might still make sense. If we go > this route, let's make sure we support projects involving multiple > teams. For example, "Sugar on a Stick" would touch Development, > Infrastructure, Marketing... I am going to be setting up LiquidPlanner, a free for nonpro

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > was wondering if there would be some value of including the notion of > projects inside SugarLabs' organizational structure. > > Teams seem to me as something not bounded in time, a way to focus energy. > > Projects would be smaller in scope, involve several teams and > mile

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Walter Bender wrote: > I think the idea of a roadmap (with project schedules) within each > team would address much of this need. Agreed. Project management is a pain in the ass, and we don't always have the resources to have dedicated and "proper" project management -- wh

Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Walter Bender
I think the idea of a roadmap (with project schedules) within each team would address much of this need. -walter On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > was wondering if there would be some value of including the notion of > projects inside SugarLabs' o

[IAEP] teams vs. projects

2008-11-24 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, was wondering if there would be some value of including the notion of projects inside SugarLabs' organizational structure. Teams seem to me as something not bounded in time, a way to focus energy. Projects would be smaller in scope, involve several teams and milestones would be an important

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-09 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/InfrastructureTeam >>> -- >>> Lots of good stuff here. Looks like Bernie is the man here... right, >>> Bernie? >>> Love th

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-09 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/InfrastructureTeam >> -- >> Lots of good stuff here. Looks like Bernie is the man here... right, Bernie? >> Love the links to all supported infrastructure, even though some of them are >> busted. The TO

Re: [IAEP] Teams - Time to grab a team

2008-11-08 Thread Eben Eliason
I'll own Design. I promise I'll get back to regular meetings and thorough minutes! - Eben On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As long as we are putting our time where our t

Re: [IAEP] Teams - Time to grab a team

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As long as we are putting our time where our talk is > I'll serve as the WikiTeam coach. > > I have scheduled a meeting on the Sugar Labs community calendar at > http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Community . I can take Devel

[IAEP] Teams - Time to grab a team

2008-11-08 Thread David Farning
As long as we are putting our time where our talk is I'll serve as the WikiTeam coach. I have scheduled a meeting on the Sugar Labs community calendar at http://www.sugarlabs.org/go/Community . Thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, David Farning wrote: > > Greg, >> >> Thanks for taking the time to put together the well though out list of >> concrete improvement that we can make to the wiki. >> > > Thanks David. But to be

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008, David Farning wrote: Greg, Thanks for taking the time to put together the well though out list of concrete improvement that we can make to the wiki. Thanks David. But to be clear here: I'm not fundamentally concerned with wiki improvements, per se. I'm talking about te

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread David Farning
Greg, Thanks for taking the time to put together the well though out list of concrete improvement that we can make to the wiki. First the credit. I idea of teams came from SJ while we were discussing the relationship between the SL and OLPC wikis. I was talking about the _best_ place to host dif

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is there a way to see all the pages under the DeploymentTeam namespace? >> > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/Category:Deployment > > All the deployment-related pages should have the > [[Category:Deployment]] tag. (Some mistakenly

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I've seen several things written in the wiki under >>> DeploymentTeam which didn't quite seem to fit to me. >> >> Can you please elaborate?

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've seen several things written in the wiki under >> DeploymentTeam which didn't quite seem to fit to me. > > Can you please elaborate? Is there a way to see all the pages under the DeploymentTeam namespace? Anyway I thi

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Walter Bender
> I've seen several things written in the wiki under > DeploymentTeam which didn't quite seem to fit to me. Can you please elaborate? thanks. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a lap

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GENERAL OBSERVATIONS: > > * Having every team work mostly the same way is *really* useful. It allows > volunteers to move comfortably from team to team. Seems like the common > structure indicates that folks kinda get

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-07 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Rafael Ortiz Hi greg On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I love the idea of teams. Teams working together are awesome. Teams > share a common goal. Teams hold one another accountable. Go Team! > > So we've got a list of teams on the left navbar

Re: [IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-07 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://sugarlabs.org/go/WikiTeam > > Who's the owner... cjl? The TODO list looks good... names attached? > > No, not the owener, just a contributor. By volume of work, I'd say dfar

[IAEP] Teams!

2008-11-07 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
I love the idea of teams. Teams working together are awesome. Teams share a common goal. Teams hold one another accountable. Go Team! So we've got a list of teams on the left navbar of the Sugar wiki (and one or two elsewhere). I figured I'd check them all out and give my unsolicited feed