[IAEP] Tony's comments on localization (was: Re: IAEP Digest, Vol 100, Issue 21)

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 03:09, Tony Anderson escribió: > To be repetitive: our goal should be to support localization at our > Sugar deployments. If possible, we should enlist the help of people at > the deployment sites since they have the indispensable knowledge for > translation - a native knowledge

Re: [IAEP] [OLPC-SF] OLPC-SF July meeting this Saturday

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 July 2016 at 11:17, Aaron D Borden wrote: > Agenda > - Meet and greet > - Vision, mission, and goals > - Summit planning > - Project updates > Were any minutes taken? If not, I'm curious to hear more about the Vision/mission/goals discussion and if the statement was

Re: [IAEP] Britain to help 175,000 girls in world’s poorest countries get an education

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 14:54, Sean DALY wrote: > > https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-to-help-175000-girls-in-worlds-poorest-countries-get-an-education > > The Department for International Development (DFID) will provide £100 > million through the Girls’ Education

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 10, 2016 1:44 PM, "Tony Anderson" wrote: > > Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Sure, I dont see any trouble in this. What harm do you see? What alternative do you suggest? :) > > Tony > > > On 07/10/2016 07:32 PM, Dave Crossland

Re: [IAEP] SOAS Page?

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
Dave, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 18:43, Dave Crossland wrote: > Who is responsible for the text and illustrations on > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ ? :) I don't know, but there is a link at the bottom of the page: Please send any comments or corrections to the websites

Re: [IAEP] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Martin Dengler
Tony, > On 10 Jul 2016, at 16:34, Tony Anderson wrote: > > It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by major > applications everywhere. There are many things that Sugar does differently than major applications everywhere. It was painful to

Re: [IAEP] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I have great difficulty understanding why we don't take advantage of that position to enlist our users worldwide to assist by supplying their unique knowledge of their own language. Tony On 07/10/2016 04:24 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: Some of us believe Free Software and Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by major applications everywhere. Tony On 07/10/2016 02:51 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: Tony, Please don't write in private. "Untitled" is an innovation. Currently untitled documents carry the activity name. El 10/07/16

Re: [IAEP] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 10:34, Tony Anderson escribió: > It is hard to describe 'Untitled' as an innovation since it is used by > major applications everywhere. I speak in the context of Sugar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I don't know how to respond. You are still addressing procedural issues. Is there some reason you want to ask questions on a PR and not address them with the developer or me? Why do you expect mentors to be active in github? I am not a developer and have no intention to become

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] Maintenance downtime today for OS upgrades

2016-07-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 10/07/16 12:57, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On 09/07/16 19:15, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >> Most notably, activities.sugarlabs.org is still down. It probably >> doesn't like PHP 7... The wiki is also very slow because I had to >> disable APC until I understand how to make Mediawiki use the new

[IAEP] SOAS Page?

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Who is responsible for the text and illustrations on https://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ ? :) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Tony On 07/10/2016 07:32 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On 10 July 2016 at 13:26, Tony Anderson > wrote: Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar?

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 13:20, Tony Anderson escribió: > Hi, Sebastian > > I write a lot of spaghetti code. I don't know anywhere it is written > that code can only be written or appear on github. Has this become the > monopoly of software? No, but it's what we use in Sugar. > > I am really sorry that

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 13:17, Tony Anderson escribió: > Who made that decision? Where is it recorded? Is it a part of our > bylaws? How are we supposed to know that? It has been affirmed many times over the years. But I guess it bears repetition. Recently Walter confirmed this intent and committed

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
Tony, I don't understand why you act offended. This is in our statement of organizational principles: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs Information * Regular reports – Reported activities and future plans allow monitoring and participation. * Information accessible –

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 12:16, Nick Doiron wrote: > Your primary issue would be getting a Cherokee font (including recent > Unicode addition of lower-case letters) to work on the laptop. > Google Noto solves this :) ___ IAEP -- It's An

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 12:44, Tony Anderson escribió: > Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Actually, SLOBs list was never meant to be used except when privacy concerns made it unavoidable. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I use private communication when I feel it is appropriate. There is no way for me to know when you or Sam place comments on a PR, so that communication might as well be private. In the context of GSOC, it might have been appropriate to mention this in a public or private email

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM, "Tony Anderson" wrote: > > Hi, Sebastian > > I use private communication when I feel it is appropriate. There is no way for me to know when you or Sam place comments > on a PR, so that communication might as well be private. I have some good news

Re: [IAEP] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Nick Doiron
re Cherokee language: I had the opportunity to work with Cherokee Nation on a technology localization project five years ago when I was at Esri The Cherokee Nation has a specially organized team involved in translating tech. Your primary issue would be getting a Cherokee font (including recent

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Tony's comments on localization

2016-07-10 Thread Nick Doiron
on the web, sure, I'd use Google Noto or the Cherokee Nation's preferred font Digowheli (sp?) how do you get it into Write and the Sugar interface though? how are you going to get the keyboard input working? Kanji is supported by many keyboards and fonts, but I've never seen an XO type those

Re: [IAEP] [Systems] Maintenance downtime today for OS upgrades

2016-07-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On 09/07/16 19:15, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Most notably, activities.sugarlabs.org is still down. It probably > doesn't like PHP 7... The wiki is also very slow because I had to > disable APC until I understand how to make Mediawiki use the new APCu. I'm still working to restore ASLO. It's an

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 12:42, Tony Anderson escribió: > I don't know how to respond. You are still addressing procedural > issues. Is there some reason you want to ask questions on a PR and not > address them with the developer or me? That is inaccurate. The developer gets all of our comments in the

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Enough. Deciding to make actions of the Oversight Board public by posting them on another list is not a decision on the purpose of the SLOBs list. Tony On 07/10/2016 08:21 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 13:17, Tony Anderson escribió: Who made that decision? Where is it

[IAEP] Britain to help 175,000 girls in world’s poorest countries get an education

2016-07-10 Thread Sean DALY
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-to-help-175000-girls-in-worlds-poorest-countries-get-an-education The Department for International Development (DFID) will provide £100 million through the Girls’ Education Challenge to help girls who have dropped out or never attended school due to

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 10/07/16 a las 12:26, Tony Anderson escribió: > Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar? > Yup, this is it. As a rule of thumb, if it mentions git or Python, use sugar-devel. ;-) > Tony > > On 07/10/2016 06:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> >> >> On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM,

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Who made that decision? Where is it recorded? Is it a part of our bylaws? How are we supposed to know that? Tony On 07/10/2016 07:45 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 12:44, Tony Anderson escribió: Recently it has become the 'public' alternative to the SLOBs list. Actually,

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 July 2016 at 13:26, Tony Anderson wrote: > Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar? > Threads regarding the educational goals of Sugar are not to do with software development technicalities so therefore happen on this list in addition to all other

Re: [IAEP] Save As

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian I write a lot of spaghetti code. I don't know anywhere it is written that code can only be written or appear on github. Has this become the monopoly of software? I am really sorry that you raise what you apparently believe are serious issues and are unable to discuss them.

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM, "Tony Anderson" wrote: > > However, since the various flaps concerning the Oversight Board, it is very > hard to find a discussion in IAEP that has any connection to education. My understanding is that this list is for threads not to do with

Re: [IAEP] Private emails (was Re: Save as)

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Where is our list regarding the educational goals of Sugar? Tony On 07/10/2016 06:10 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: On Jul 10, 2016 11:54 AM, "Tony Anderson" > wrote: > > However, since the various flaps concerning the Oversight Board, it is

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Save as

2016-07-10 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Sebastian Then, the word 'change' might be more appropriate. Note: I am not proposing it be changed in its current usage, but only in as the default text in place of the current blank text. Tony On 07/10/2016 05:36 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: El 10/07/16 a las 10:34, Tony Anderson