Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread Martin Packer
George Dranes wrote: Actually our SMF dump job dumps to a daily tape which in the next step is mod on to a weekly tape using IEBGENER (actually ICEGENER in our case). This weekly tape is then concatenated to a monthly tape once a week. I keep multiple generations of the daily and weekly

ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?

2007-10-07 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that ADABAS is much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true? Itschak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread George Dranes
So would the following work to mod my SMF files to a weekly tape? I'm not really familiar with IFASMFDP bit I assume the INDD can be a dumped dataset instead of a VSAM file? //DUMPEXEC PGM=IFASMFDP //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD DUMMY //INDD1DD

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread George Dranes
I made a mistake in my SYSIN, it should read INDD(INDD1,OPTIONS(DUMP)). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
George, Personally I would stay away from MOD. I can't begin to tell you how many hours I have spent trying to recover SMF data from MODed tapes. If SMF is important enough to save then don't trust MOD. Its not that the software doesn't work its the HARDWARE (tape or drive). I would

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread George Dranes
To avoid mod could I concatenate the input DDs including the last weekly GDS first along with the daily dump as follows crating a new weekly GDS? By the way this would be the second step in my live SMF dump job therefore the +1 for my input daily. //DUMPEXEC PGM=IFASMFDP //SYSPRINT DD

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
George, While this may work you do realize this would (may) mount 3 tapes. I think that you may find that dumping SMF to a disk dataset would be faster and less prone to hardware errors (drive or media). I would also suggest that j910 file (that you create daily) should be under catalog

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread George Dranes
I have decided to dump the initial live SMF to dasd rather than tape. So only 2 tape mounts would be required in this second step. We do have our job scheduler monitoring these dump jobs so if there is a failure we are paged and as I said before we only dump once a day, easy for the operator

Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-07 Thread Jacky Bright
wht about Coupling Facility Weightage ... Is there any rules to give some std weightage to coupling facility ... On 10/5/07, Ken Porowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another possibility is to use WLM defined capacity. Set the MSU's to the equivalent of 200 MIPs (30-32 MSUs depending on the

Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
wht about Coupling Facility Weightage ... Is there any rules to give some std weightage to coupling facility .. Coupling Facilities should be dedicated engines. Otherwise, there are a lot of performance issues. So, weighting is irrelevent. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?

2007-10-07 Thread R.S.
Itschak Mugzach wrote: I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that ADABAS is much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true? Apples and oranges. There is no reason to compare speed of IMS to DB2. IMS is not relational database, so it works in quite

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread R.S.
George Dranes wrote: I have our SMF dump jobs dumping directly to a tape dataset with LRECL=32760 and BLKKSIZE=32760,RECFM=VBS. Fortunately we are small enough to dump SMF once a day so there are no speed issues not dumping to DASD (saves a lot of dasd). I was just curious if this a a sound

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread George Dranes
In respect to MOD, are you just referring to moding SMF data to tape? I've successfully used mod (with ICEGENER) to tape for our LOGREC files for 17 years and have yet to have an issue with reading the tape. Actually we also have a few other files we mod to tape which have also never failed.

LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, I'm just reading an assembler language book and there is one coding example showing how to dynamically install user-written SVC. What I'm interested in is the way it places the SVC load module into common area. It uses LOAD macro to do it and says: unless the original task deletes it, it

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/7/2007 10:45:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course we can use a batch job to do it and the initiator will not terminate as the job ends. But in my opinion, it's still not safe. It's still possible that the operator will recycle the

Re: Hipersockets performance

2007-10-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:43:25 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: transfers. I never tried to ftp to /dev/null. Don't bother: Command: syst SYST 215 MVS is the operating system of this server. FTP Server is running on z/OS. Command: get 'SYS1.maclib(splevel)' /dev/null

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Use the ADDR= parameter with the LOAD macro. You've got to request the CSA storage yourself and pass its address via ADDR= to the load service. The description of that parameter says: The system does not search for the module and does not maintain a record of the module once it is

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 7, 2007, at 8:46 AM, George Dranes wrote: I have decided to dump the initial live SMF to dasd rather than tape. So only 2 tape mounts would be required in this second step. We do have our job scheduler monitoring these dump jobs so if there is a failure we are paged and as I said

Re: Dumping SMF directly to TAPE

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
George: The SMF dumping process is a little more complicated than most jobs. IMO it needs a little more TLC than any typical job due to the complexity of what things can happen and the frequency in which it occurs. On Oct 7, 2007, at 8:46 AM, George Dranes wrote: I have decided to dump

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:03:06 +0200 Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Use the ADDR= parameter with the LOAD macro. You've got to request :the CSA storage yourself and pass its address via ADDR= to the load :service. :The description of that parameter says: The system does not

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/7/2007 12:21:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let us see if he will go to the effort to determine how big the storage area should be, or if that will be his next question. If he's reading all these posts, he just might get a clue from this

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Johnny Luo
Actually took me some trouble to think of a way to accomplish this :) Reading directory of PDS/PDSE seems to be the solution, but it means a lot of codes. LOAD it into jpa and then retrieve the info from CDE? Then I realized that there is CSVQUERY. So my solution would be: 1. First LOAD the

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Johnny Luo
Bill, I cannot fully understand what you mean by 'self-terminate'. As I know, when the initiator is started the address space will always be there ready for the incoming job assigned by JES. On 10/8/07, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also the Initiator/Terminator

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:25:42 +0800 Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Actually took me some trouble to think of a way to accomplish this :) :Reading directory of PDS/PDSE seems to be the solution, but it means a lot :of codes. Not at all - a few instructions will do it. Look at the PDS

New DISS V4R1 Announcement

2007-10-07 Thread Pinnacle
I am pleased to announce the new V4R1 release of the Dynamic ISPF Starter Set. Now featuring 200 members, the Starter Set supports 9 new applications and features a number of changes. Be sure to review the $CHANGES member for all the new release features and $INSTALL member for installation

z/OS 1.9 ISPF question

2007-10-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Can someone please send me (onlist or offlist) the options displayed on the Edit entry panel in z/OS 1.9? The doc seems to have an error. I'm updating my courses to z/OS 1.9, but I don't have a 1.9 system to test on to verify the docs. I'm sure most is OK, but when the docs are in error, it's

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/7/2007 1:30:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot fully understand what you mean by 'self-terminate'. As I know, when the initiator is started the address space will always be there ready for the incoming job assigned by JES. One out of

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Andy Wood
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:21:00 +0200, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let us see if he will go to the effort to determine how big the storage area should be, or if that will be his next question. And the question after that can be: How do you prevent the module in the library from

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Roland Schiradin
Hmmh well did you try GLOBAL=YES and EO=NO? Make sure you follow the documentation. I used GLOBAL=YES and EOM=YES in the past and it works as documented. Never used EOM=NO Roland Hi, I'm just reading an assembler language book and there is one coding example showing how to dynamically

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:25:07 -0500, Andy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... How do you prevent the module in the library from being replaced by another (potentially larger) one after the time you work out the length but before you get to issue the LOAD? ... I guess it's possible someone might be

Re: LOAD a module into CSA/ECSA

2007-10-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:25:42 +0800, Johnny Luo wrote: Actually took me some trouble to think of a way to accomplish this :) Reading directory of PDS/PDSE seems to be the solution, but it means a lot of codes. LOAD it into jpa and then retrieve the info from CDE? Then I realized that there is

Re: OS/390 V2R4 on Z9

2007-10-07 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rankin, Bob Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: OS/390 V2R4 on Z9 Our production environment is running OS390 V2R4 (9708 PUT). My management wants to

Re: OS/390 V2R4 on Z9

2007-10-07 Thread Brian Westerman
I think that I might have mentioned this before but I have successfully (several times) migrated 2.8 and 2.9 system to a Z9. Admittedly, we didn't leave the client there for very long, (less than a week) while we moved them to z/OS, but it ran okay. Brian Westerman

IBM Google to promote computer programming for clouds

2007-10-07 Thread Ed Gould
IBM, Google, Universities Combine 'Cloud' Forces By WILLIAM M. BULKELEY October 8, 2007; Page B7 International Business Machines Corp. and Google Inc. said they are starting a program on college campuses to promote computer- programming techniques for clusters of processors known as clouds.