Sorry, I spelled your name wrong..
I've survived it ;-)
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Keep in mind that MVS is permitted to move a unfixed backed DREF
page to another real frame, so do not assume that the real address
of an unfixed backed DREF page will not change.
...which makes DREF storage behave more like pageable storage than
fixed (like xxSQA): It is not backed until
Hi Walter,
Several of our customer sites are using the MAS (I think they number over
30). I wrote several utility programs that are now offered with the MAS,
and I have some others that they (as yet) don't include with the product.
One of them (since you're z/OS.e) is a very quite (4 step)
Why does z/OS-1.4 USS cron die/stop/go away without any trace of a
cause?
How do you recognize it's gone. How do you start it? Any BPX messages
in SYSLOG?
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Peter,
My understanding for what Jim said is a little different.
Actually Jim wrote something about DREF three years ago and I happened to
find it in the archive:
---
There are some important
STOR 'NULLFILE'
125 Storing data set NULLFILE
... I wonder where it went?
Would that not be the equivalent of a dummy file? I seem to remember that
//NONO DD DSN=NULLFILE
is the same as
//NONO DD DUMMY
Cheers,
Jantje.
Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
STOR 'NULLFILE'
125 Storing data set NULLFILE
... I wonder where it went?
Would that not be the equivalent of a dummy file? I seem to remember that
//NONO DD DSN=NULLFILE
is the same as
//NONO DD DUMMY
It is the same. However NULLFILE can be used in FTP
I haven't seen it do that. Did you check the cron log and the USS syslog?
You may wish to post to MVS-OE for USS questions; see
http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?mvs-oe
for archives subscription info.
Bill
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:56:42 -0500, Adam Floro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why does
Hi
I would like to access the accounting info's (SMF 30 records) for
running USS processes.
I'm testing now the ERBDSQRY and ERBDSREC interface from RMF, but not
very satisfied with the results:
- the RMF SMF data buffer option should be on
- I can retrieve the SMF 30 records, but I have
ENABLED(INACTIVE)
means that there is already a PER type slip active in the system.
No it doesn't. It means that SLIP was unable to find the module in one of
the address spaces, and thus is waiting for a subsequent load of that
module to occur at which point the trap could/would be activated.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
10/08/2007
at 01:30 PM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Clearly it won't tell you which entry point was used since that is
completely un-knowable.
No it isn't; you can sometimes tell by looking at the CDE chained off the
PRB.
but it's entirely possible that
It's ancient history now (about 18 months ago) but we upgraded from a
7060 to a z9 running z/OS 1.4. As others have stated, it was merely
getting the exploitation feature and installing it. The upgrade went
smoothly and I don't recall any issues. We're still running the 1.4
code and still have
Client/Server clusters?
GDPS?
Grid Computing?
This is the next new thing? Sounds to me they're trying to do for the
PC what RAID did for DASD. Again. Using a proven mainframe model,
without crediting it. Again.
Maybe this time they'll succeed, without using up so much network
bandwidth as to
Good Day To All,
I was investigatin problem ARC0521I - the PRIMARY SPACE MANAGEMENT ended due
to a ARC0521I COMPLETION, RESOURCES NOT AVAILABLE. I found the message
ARC0560E MIGRATION LIMITED: NO MIGRATION LEVEL 1 SPACE AVAILABLE, followed by
subsequent messages :
ARC0559I SPACE
snip
Subject: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
I spoke few days ago with an ADABAS specialist that claimed that ADABAS
is
much faster and has low overhead compared to IMS and DB2. Is this true?
/snip
As with most things in this business, it depends.
The first question to ask is What source
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 07:38 -0500, Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport) wrote:
Client/Server clusters?
GDPS?
Grid Computing?
This is the next new thing?
Don't be like that Gary. I twigged on this bit;
quote
Six universities will initially participate in a pilot program to work
out the kinks: the
Did you release migration after you added the ML1 volume? The message
MIGRATION LIMITED means that it held migration.
ThanksRick
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of willie bunter
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:58 AM
To:
No, I didn't. I didn't see the message that the MIGRATION was held. I will
take note of this to add to my procedures. Would you know if there is
something else I should have done besides adding the disks? I thought of doing
a MIGRATE1 to MIGRATE2. Would that have been a good move?
Adams,
Rick Fochtman wrote:
I can't help it; I've got to butt in here with one of my pet peeves.
We'va all used GTF and SLIP at one time or another to try and debug
system problems and, perhaps less often, application problems. I write
almost all my code in Assembler and the lack of debugging tools
snip
No it doesn't. It means that SLIP was unable to find the module in one
of the address spaces, and thus is waiting for a subsequent load of that
module to occur at which point the trap could/would be activated.
Note that if you specify multiple
Shane,
I guess you're right. I need more coffee this morning! =)
Thanks,
Gary Diehl
MVS Support
The glass is neither half full or half empty; the engineer who designed
the glass simply allowed for a 100% increase in fluid storage.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:01:28 +0200, R.S. wrote:
Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
STOR 'NULLFILE'
125 Storing data set NULLFILE
... I wonder where it went?
Would that not be the equivalent of a dummy file? I seem to remember that
//NONO DD DSN=NULLFILE
is the same as
//NONO DD DUMMY
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:07:12 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:I write
:almost all my code in Assembler and the lack of debugging tools that I
:can imbed into a product is one of my pet peeves.
How would you like to imbed it?
How would you expect that the end user would enable it?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/03/2007
at 10:18 AM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Just to nit pick a little... It is not a 0C4, but a PIC 4.
No; 4 is protection. You'll get a page or segment[1] exception for an
unallocated page, depending on whether the segment is allocated.
[1] Or
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
10/03/2007
at 10:36 AM, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This is an extremely complicated process, based on a number of factors,
many of which your program has no control. However, your guess is
usually correct, in that if the page returned has never been
Bill,
Yes to both. I am not the end user, but am told that the group
responsible for it is quite happy with its functionality.
Bob Richards
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:56 AM
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:39:49 -0300 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
:10/03/2007
: at 10:36 AM, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
:
:This is an extremely complicated process, based on a number of factors,
:many of which your program has no control.
Rick said;
I can't help it; I've got to butt in here with one of my pet peeves.
We'va all used GTF and SLIP at one time or another to try and debug
system problems and, perhaps less often, application problems. I write
almost all my code in Assembler and the lack of debugging tools that I
can
Dan,
I have installed the current version of the MPFXTALL from Glen. Now it
works as desired. Only 2 messages are issued that the first message is
not a WTOR and therefore no reply is issued. I have suppressed them.
Thanks for your hints.
kind regards
Franz Josef Pohlen
Dan D schrieb:
As
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:39:49 -0300 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:No, a PIC 0010 or 0011, unless there's something new in 64-bit mode. 0C4
:is an overloaded ABEND code that can mean any of PIC 4, 10 or 11 in an
:unexpected context.
Now there is region
On October 7,2007 12:14 AM George Dranes wrote:
Actually our SMF dump job dumps to a daily tape which in the next step
is
mod on to a weekly tape using IEBGENER (actually ICEGENER in our
case).
This weekly tape is then concatenated to a monthly tape once a week.
I
keep multiple generations
Allan,
Please can you explain to your audience how long have you been around and
how long have you been workling with Adabas, IMS and DB2 ?
Please define also what type of work have you been doing with all these
Database software packages, if you can still remember..
Why ? In the USA there
Either adding space to ML1 or migrating some data off to ML2 would have
cleared the issue. In either case you needed to release migration to
start the migration process again!
ThanksRick
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Behalf Of
On 5 Oct 2007 11:39:50 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman, Tom)
wrote:
Just try Indiana. At least Arizona can agree on how to set their
clocks
state wide. Indiana can't even do that. Some of the state goes to
Daylight Saving Time and some doesn't.
On 5 Oct 2007 1:57 PM, Howard Brazee
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:31:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
May I know the server name for thisgroup???
This group is a copy of a list server. If you are wanting to
participate, subscribing would make sure any messages you sent get
read by everybody.
I have my participation set
snip
Please can you explain to your audience how long have you been around
and
how long have you been workling with Adabas, IMS and DB2 ?
/snip
I have been a MVS systems programmer for about 35 years. I have worked
with IMS and DB2 for about 5 years. I have never worked with ADABAS.
I have no
--snip---
Dude... check out the GTRACE macro, http://preview.tinyurl.com/2wfyrk
GTRACE is the GTF interface and even though it is documented in the Auth
guides, the MC interface does not require authorization AT ALL.
The down side is that all other aspects
Hi,
Summarized :
a) So you never worked with ADABAS in your life
b) You only worked with IMS and DB2 for 5 years... maybe as a user
but you are talking about :
a) SQL
b) Database access methods
c) Which Database people should be using
Summarized :
Are you working for the 'White house maybe
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:26:51 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
::I write
::almost all my code in Assembler and the lack of debugging tools that I
::can imbed into a product is one of my pet peeves.
:How would you like to imbed it?
-snip
:I write
:almost all my code in Assembler and the lack of debugging tools that I
:can imbed into a product is one of my pet peeves.
How would you like to imbed it?
---unsnip-
I don't really care
At 10/9/2007 12:36 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
[snip]
But I don't believe that a user (That's a four-letter word, I know.)
should have to ...
[snip]
I've looked at XDC, but it doesn't seem to lend itself easily to
imbedding in an application that might very well be a OEM Software
Product. It
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:13:57 -0400 David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:At 10/9/2007 12:36 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
:[snip]
:But I don't believe that a user (That's a four-letter word, I know.)
:should have to ...
:[snip]
:I've looked at XDC, but it doesn't seem to lend itself easily to
At 10/9/2007 01:19 PM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
I don't think that he can count on his end-users having an XDC license.
Do you provide a license where he can supply some run-time material for his
clients?
We can do that. Talk to Bob.
Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cole
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Anton Britz
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
Hi,
Summarized :
a) So you never worked with ADABAS in your life
I supported ADABAS for 2 years about 20 years ago. What I remember was the
SVC that modified itself and still running with 24 bit addressability.
Don't get me wrong - I could write amazing programs in Natural in just a
couple of hours but the other restrictions were painfull. Went on an
Thank goodness our moral compass is still around...
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PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton BritzSent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 12:37 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is faster?
Hi,
Summarized :
Duane,
Snip
First, I work for DTS but the important difference between products that
reduce out of space conditions is when is the data set selected to be a
candidate for recovery.
Snip
CA-Allocate works the same way as Stop X37 and SRS. It intercepts the X37.
I worked with the CA-Allocate for
snip--
So why doesn't the very straightforward solution of a DEBUG parm and
calls to debug logic in the code work? You can have multiple debug flags
(routine entry exit, record read, etc.).
--unsnip---
In many,
Did I stumble into a dark closet and find myself trapped in a job interview?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of CICS Guy
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ADABAS vs IMS vs DB2 Who is
On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:13 PM, David Cole wrote:
At 10/9/2007 12:36 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:
[snip]
But I don't believe that a user (That's a four-letter word, I
know.) should have to ...
[snip]
I've looked at XDC, but it doesn't seem to lend itself easily to
imbedding in an application
Thanks to all who replied.
It turned out to be a grs problem
Thank You...
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Skip Robinson
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 3:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Zos 1.7
I'm having
Ed Gould wrote:
Not speaking for Rick, but in agreement with him. As he mentioned the
viability of putting into production a $$ tool . I have seen various
programmers try to put various debugging tools into production and
have seen it slip by (into production once or twice) don't go there.
At 10/9/2007 03:06 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
What Dave was trying to say was that z/XDC is not linked with or
installed with your code at all. The risks you allude to don't exist.
When you decide you want to debug a program, you can HOOK it on the
fly (even if it hasn't been LOADed yet). The
At 10/9/2007 02:53 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
Not speaking for Rick, but in agreement with him. As he mentioned
the viability of putting into production a $$ tool . I have seen
various programmers try to put various debugging tools into
production and have seen it slip by (into production once or
Hi,
Come on Cics guy...
There is a lot of us reading most of this junk on IBM-MAIN and :
a) Asking a question
b) Making a statement on what you really know well
is acceptably to most...
but how big is your World if you make a signon called Cics Guy and then want
to talk about morality ?
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Cole
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SLIP sliding away
SNIP
I really don't see that there is a serious problem here. (Or am I still
missing the
On Oct 9, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Ed Gould wrote:
Not speaking for Rick, but in agreement with him. As he mentioned
the viability of putting into production a $$ tool . I have seen
various programmers try to put various debugging tools into
production and have seen it slip
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:36:41 -0500 Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:snip--
:So why doesn't the very straightforward solution of a DEBUG parm and
:calls to debug logic in the code work? You can have multiple debug flags
:(routine entry exit,
Hi,
I am 100% convinced, the computer world in the USA is like another Iraq
story...
Here we have another person that worked with Adabas 20 years a'go and he
wants to compare Databases.
You can be succesful in the USA ... hang in there.. stay the course.
Anton Britz
7 13:23:49 -0500, Mike
Hello Mike,
Most of the restrictions in the classes you mentioned disappeared from
ADABAS years ago. In our shop we yo-yo the ADABAS databases weekly -
though I know many shops that yo-yo the database only when an IPL is
required. We run backups every day - this can be done on only those
blocks
My 2.10 manual says it is optional in a catalogued procedure. I have
some in the proclib used for started tasks and also in the proclib used
for batch jobs.
-Original Message-
From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:snip]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject:
On Oct 9, 2007, at 2:20 PM, David Cole wrote:
-SNIP-
Hi Ed,
Perhaps I've been reading things too hurriedly. Maybe I missed the
thrust of Rick's comment.
What you are concerned about is the possibility of letting a
distribution copy of a product get out the door with a
Boys, please relax.
I wonder why TPC-C tests are only done for the distributed platforms
databases (or their DP versions). Within its members are IBM, Oracle (MF
version) Sybase(the same) and others. Maybe, because TPC heard (too early, I
must say) that the mainframe is dead?
Itschak
Rick said
I've looked at XDC, but it doesn't seem to lend itself easily
to imbedding in an application that might very well be a OEM Software
Product. It appears to be a great debugging tool, but I question the
advisability of imbedding it in a fee-based product.
You don't need to embed it to
Craddock, Chris wrote:
[snip]
If you DO that, then your debugging environment is completely baked into
your code, but there is no physical dependence on XDC and no way for fat
fingered programmers to blunder into it. A certain family of products
that I've had a passing association with :-) are
I sent the following information to the SHARE LNGC project email list,
but
thought that some within IBM-MAIN and comp.lang.cobol might also be
interested
(impacted).
Today, Oct 9, in IBM (US) announcement 907-207 that you can view online
at:
At 10/9/2007 03:46 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
[snip] BTW after thinking it through I would rather not have the
dependancies name you mentioned as DR comes into play [...]
Yep. That's a good point.
The secret DDNAME does not work unless it changes say every week (or
so) as people let the cat out of
Seems like this health check should recognize when no jobs are using an
obsolete LNKLST set and stop complaining without having to update the
check PARM with NEW().
I put a load library on the IPL-time LNKLST with a secondary space
amount, forced it to add an extent, ran this health check
exotic code
Oooh I like that ! From now on, I am going to be an Exotic Programmer when
asked.
I agree with Ed and CC here, in my stuff I test for XDC being there (and also
an internal global/component level option) and then I use XDC as my first-up
recovery routine. It is not really intended
What does CC 2912 mean? My Cobol test program returns CC 2912 when I add
these EZASOKET calls:
SOCKET
CONNECT
WRITE
READ
CLOSE
FWIW, the EZASOKET calls are working - tcpdump at the other end of the
connection shows the outbound inbound blocks.
If the CALL actually seems to be working and EZASOKET doesn't document such
a CC, then it sounds to me as if this is the old not clearing register 15
problem documented at:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/igy3pg32/4.2.4.1
where it says,
You might need to think
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Looks like Rob has his Halloween costume all planned. ;-)
BTW I nominate this thread for the coolest title of 2007.
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What does CC 2912 mean? My Cobol test program returns CC 2912
when I add
these EZASOKET calls:
SOCKET
CONNECT
WRITE
READ
CLOSE
FWIW, the EZASOKET calls are working - tcpdump at the other end of
the
Hi,
(Previously posted to MXG-L)
We are having some spirited discussion on the need to provision multiple
engines production data sharing Coupling Facilities. I was recently given
this reference
regarding DB2 v8 CF performance and capacity from DB2 for z/OS: Data Sharing
in a
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