Thank you Mark. Below is the latest on that I have and it appears
almost identical. (-:
Anyway, my original question was meant to be more like, Wouldn't it be
nice if there were some documentation that explained things like this in
more detail, that was easy to read, and indexed and cross
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:27:57 +0100 Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:Anyway, my original question was meant to be more like, Wouldn't it be
:nice if there were some documentation that explained things like this in
:more detail, that was easy to read, and indexed and cross indexed every
Aman,
If your intent is to allow these individuals to perform a limited set of
RACF administrative tasks without giving them RACF authority, you'll need
write an APF-authorized program they can execute to perform the tasks.
Alternatively, you can let them keep their RACF authority and write a
.. I wonder how Phil moved the PARM ..
I've long since forgotten. One thing I _do_ know - it wouldn't have been with
EXECUTE. It
was banned in the installation standards manual.
--
Phil Payne
http://www.isham-research.co.uk
+44 7833 654 800
Every now and then the status quo _needs_ to be upset.
In the mid-80s I joined Morino Associates and discovered their incredible
engine - the
Component Generator.
Anyone passed the legendary five-day MICS User Adminstrator Course? Back then,
Mario himself
had to grant instructors' licenses,
I have Carmine Cannatello's Advanced Assembler book. I think I got it
for around 100 bucks plus shipping some years ago. Google for prices on
that book now. It's worth a mint. (Mine's not though, because I fell
asleep on it a few times, and some of the pages have red stains on them,
looks like
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:22:54 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote:
Suppose your employer paid bonuses for producing
items of Intellectual Property, or that the
number of items of Intellectual Property in your portfolio
was a significant factor towards getting a promotion.
Is it possible that those financial
Instead of paying for it though I'd rather it be an open source document or a
Wiki.
Many of us on this list make our livings as ISVs, largely based on
knowledge accrued over many decades. While offering assistance
and tidbits of information and know-how is the nature of the beast,
you are
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:26:48 -0500 J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Instead of paying for it though I'd rather it be an open source document or
a Wiki.
:Many of us on this list make our livings as ISVs, largely based on
:knowledge accrued over many decades. While offering assistance
:and tidbits
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/05/2008
at 02:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Do you consider the following IEBGENER step to verify the difference in
behavior:
Yes. Did you create an ETR?
... ? Note that the line after /./dev/null is displayed, but the line
after /dev/null is not
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
01/04/2008
at 12:49 PM, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Or better yet an enhancement by IBM to the JES Sub System itself
Neither PARM nor symbolic parameters are handled by the JES. They're
handled by the C/I and the Initiator.
--
Shmuel
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/05/2008
at 08:31 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Since mainframe does not support iSCSI, there is no reason to compare
what is cheaper/better/etc.
Since Poland is part of China, you should buy a goldfish. Any statement
follows from a false premise.
There is more
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2008
at 08:41 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well all I can say is never say never. For 30+years 100 characters were
plenty
ObCamelDriver No. The fact that it didn't cause *you* problems doesn't
negate the problems that it caused others.
--
Shmuel
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2008
at 11:15 AM, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You know, guys, as much as I'd like to see the JCL PARM expanded in
length, I'd hate to see the problems that will arise from it. Face it,
how many of your programs that process PARM values have a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2008
at 01:50 PM, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Ever since I've learned writing programs in COBOL, Assembler or a few
other languages many years ago, I have always coded a 100-byte storage
area to receive the PARM data area from JCL. That's the way I
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/03/2008
at 09:25 AM, Mark H. Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Can anyone recommend a training class for IBM's RACF ?!
Have you checked with Steve? Is EKC still in business?
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
01/04/2008
at 12:27 PM, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm not certain about it, but I -think- Environment Variables are good
for the life of the job once they are set by a program/step.
No. If you spawn a new process the environment is passed, but a
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2008
at 08:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This leaves us once again confronting the onerous restriction that JCL
does not provide for substituting symbol values in an instream data set
that might be used as such a control file.
Onerous? Theres no
Here is a question for the masses. I am calling a PC routine from C++. The
C++ and assembly code snippets are at the end.
My question is this: When the address space that contains the XMS routine
goes down, my client app crashes with a S0D6(rsn 22). All fine and dandy,
but I want this to not
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:21:27 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
No. The original design of OS/360 was that all programs were subroutines.
A program written to be called as a jobstep task could also be called via
LINK or ATTACH from another program. It was never designed for programs to
assume
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:08:21 -0600 Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:21:27 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
:No. The original design of OS/360 was that all programs were subroutines.
:A program written to be called as a jobstep task could also be called via
Point well taken, thank you. IIRC my original question was, Why
not...? and that answers it perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of J R
Sent: 6. tammikuuta 2008 17:27
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS and VM
On Sun, Jan 6, 2008 at 10:26 AM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], J R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
-snip-
Many of us on this list make our livings as ISVs, largely based on
knowledge accrued over many decades. While offering assistance
and tidbits of information and know-how is the nature of the
Is there anyone try CF CHP(XX),ONLINE a FIOCN channel requires 10-15
mins
after migrated to z9. Any shop has met before ?? any solution?
Any comment will be appreciated
I haven't seen that kind of a response on a z9.
After you've issued the CF CHP command, try issuing a D GRS,C command (a
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 14:51:07 +0800, Tommy Tsui
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Is there anyone try CF CHP(XX),ONLINE a FIOCN channel requires
10-15 mins
after migrated to z9. Any shop has met before ?? any solution?
Any comment will be appreciated
Tommy
Tommy,
what happens after those 10 -
On Jan 6, 2008, at 9:26 AM, J R wrote:
Instead of paying for it though I'd rather it be an open source
document or a Wiki.
Many of us on this list make our livings as ISVs, largely based on
knowledge accrued over many decades. While offering assistance
and tidbits of information and know-how
Tommy Tsui wrote:
Is there anyone try CF CHP(XX),ONLINE a FIOCN channel requires 10-15 mins
after migrated to z9. Any shop has met before ?? any solution?
After we first upgraded to z9, we had issues with tape CHPs generating
errors, and phoning home, when tape devices were powered down --
That's very helpful, Ed.
I have a file I got somewhere, don't remember, that is allocated to
ISRDDN DD and works with the ISRDDN utility. It contains lines like
this:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ed Gould
Sent: 6.
That's very helpful, Ed.
I have a file I got somewhere, don't remember, that is allocated to
ISRDDN DD and works with the ISRDDN utility. It contains lines like
this:
ASCB CVT?+C? Address Space Control Block
ASSB ASCB+150?Address Space Secondary Block
In a message dated 1/6/2008 1:09:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
mostly will do a paste, but every now and then, for some idiotic reason
it does a send.
Probably need the source and a real time debuggervbg..
**Start the year off right.
Lindy Mayfield wrote:
I like to use ISRDDN to make sure I'm getting the right information and
offsets before I try to code anything. It's almost as good as seeing it
in a dump.
I agree, the BROWSE command from within DDLIST (that's the official
ISPF command to invoke ISRDDN) can be handy.
On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/04/2008
at 08:41 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Well all I can say is never say never. For 30+years 100 characters
were
plenty
ObCamelDriver No. The fact that it didn't cause *you* problems
I once encountered an IBM program (I forget which) which deliberately failed
if invoked in a multistep job or not as a jobstep task.
The TSO TMP will do that if your PROC has more than one step.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
No. The original design of OS/360 was that all programs were
subroutines. A program written to be called
Here is a question for the masses. I am calling a PC routine from C++. The
C++ and assembly code snippets are at the end.
My question is this: When the address space that contains the XMS routine
goes down, my client app crashes with a S0D6(rsn 22). All fine and dandy,
but I want this to not
David,
To my knowledge IBM does not provide a way as part of setting up cross
memory services to serialize the termination of a LX owning address
space with the program(s) that may be trying to the use LX/PC routines.
The LX owning application has to design a methodology to deal with this.
snip
I had two thoughts. Actual documentation -- printable in fact -- done
as a community effort like Sourceforge. Or some sort of online database
like a Wiki. Personally, I would prefer a Redbook type of document
that is contributed to by all and stored in a neutral place like
David,
To my knowledge IBM does not provide a way as part of setting up cross
memory services to serialize the termination of a LX owning address
space with the program(s) that may be trying to the use LX/PC routines.
The LX owning application has to design a methodology to deal with this.
Oh cool, didn't think of IPCS. Of course. Duh.
Anyway, whoohoo, I found what I was looking for (sort of) the thing which
started me on this thread. It's hung off of the TIOT which I looked at up and
down for ages. But it's not an address. It's a 3 byte field called an SWA and
points to the
The main problem with this solution (or any other solution) that checked
something before I make the PC call is that the server could crash (or be
brought down) between the check and the PC call.
Were I to implement something like the solution you describe, I would hope
that I could either use
On 6 Jan 2008 10:57:47 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote:
I would like to jump in here and offer some assistance (of
a
different kind).
snip very thorough and informative post on how to find
and access the information and/or
David,
have you tried a LE-Condition-handler instead of catch()? I believe a
C catch() wont work for an LE enabled assembler program.
Did you get a CEEDUMP with the abend code?
Have you tried a USRHDL or register a Condition handler?
roland
The main problem with this solution (or any other
Mark Post wrote:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2008 at 2:31 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
-snip-
Since mainframe does not support iSCSI, there is no reason to compare
what is cheaper/better/etc.
Sure there is. Just to be clear, z/OS !== mainframe. Linux on the
I haven't done any work on the MF in this regard so forgive me if I am all wet
here, but on the PC side, I know you can intersperse PC assembler in the C++
code to implement low-level operations. Is that possible on the MF side? If so,
you may be able to set up the environment you are looking
Lindy,
before using code from SHOWzOS make sure its GUPI. I use of lot OCO cblocks
and often it fails after a new z/OS version or just after apply a PTF. Of
course
SHOWzOS is used for several installation and often I provide a fix within a
week or so. However don't count on it.
To retrieve
On Jan 6, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
--SNIP---
of course when watfor became available ... it eclipsed a lot of the
work
on one-step job monitors.
FYI 20+ years ago I worked at a company that had a Assembler H batch
compile 'initiator'
Apologies for a stupid test send, but I am sending questions and responses
to the list. If I logon to the web site, I can see the list manager receives
my messages (search for author loga3870 or message # 073417
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0801L=ibm-mainP=R17646I=1X=2A434D08
I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web
site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender
loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isnt being sent out, and Im trying to
figure out why.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
David Logan
On Jan 6, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:
That's very helpful, Ed.
I have a file I got somewhere, don't remember, that is allocated to
ISRDDN DD and works with the ISRDDN utility. It contains lines like
this:
ASCB CVT?+C? Address Space Control Block
ASSB ASCB+150?
I thought the following talk given in Melbourne Australia a week or so
ago would be of interest. If you click on the link at the end of the
message, you can actually listen to the lecture, or read the transcript.
It is relevant to various discussions here recently.
It is said that the only
My question is this: When the address space that contains the XMS
routine
goes down, my client app crashes with a S0D6(rsn 22). All fine and
dandy,
but I want this to not happen. I was hoping the try/catch block would
catch it, but it doesn't.
I am not a C++ programmer but that looks like it
I haven't tried an LE condition handler. I looked it up in the LE manuals,
and it's definitely something worth trying. I will try it tomorrow.
Thanks for the suggestions!
David Logan
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Roland
We have 9 LPARs and those LPAR shares the same DS8100, We found that it
takes around 10 mins to completed the CF CHP(XX),ONLINE and it's successful
finally but I don't know why it takes so long time. If we try another LPAR
issue the same command and everything fine. it takes abount 5 seconds.
After I issed the command CF CHP(XX),ONLINE, I try to issue D GRS,C
CMDS DISPLAY, it's fine and nothing is enqueue and only the CONFIG command
is waiting.
On 1/7/08, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have 9 LPARs and those LPAR shares the same DS8100, We found that it
takes around 10
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I am sending questions and responses to the list. If I logon to the web
site, I can see the list manager receives my messages (search for sender
loga3870 or message # 073417) but it isnt being sent out, and Im trying to
figure out why.
David,
Get your
Yes, I agree. Thanks for giving me the details. It seems to be gmail.com
that is (or isn't) doing something. I haven't yet figured out what.
Frustrating when things work in mysterious ways.
David Logan
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:42:44 -0600
From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend
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Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:08:41 -0700
From: David Logan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] C++ recovery from (an otherwise) system abend
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Date:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/05/tob_cray1/
This Old Box The triumphant return of This Old Box! You begged and
pleaded, and we listened.
Ok, ok...nobody said anything — but your indifference speaks volumes
to our hearts! Apathy is the seed of enthusiasm. Or something.
In this
I think we still have one of those on display in our computer building.
George Fogg
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Gould
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: OT For you old CRAY lovers
For the code in line 102, I am getting the assembly error on line 117:
00 0D9E 102 A0L DC
AL2(4096-(A00100-A0)) FREE SPACE IN A0
00DFC 103 A00100L EQU
X'1000'-(C0-A00100),,C'N' FREE SPACE IN A00100
Lindy - There are numerous ways to do this but there are several things that
can make it very difficult. One way would be to use IP PrintWay assuming a site
has the software installed and configured. Generally speaking, if the PDF
document is still in its original ASCII format then I expect
HI,
Sorry, QA missed this error. This is a hipper fix! If you download the
intsallation files before January 4 you must download now the new installation
file. The error is in MVS MFNetDisk.
Thanks,
Shai
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